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Old 04-05-2021, 02:30 PM   #1
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Hey guys,
We were out at a friends farm the other day, and my boy came back out of the hay barn with fleas and ticks all over him. I said I would ask on here... whats the best way to deal with getting rid of all the critters like that out of there. There are cattle around and keeping them healthy is a concern. The barn cats are not really a concern. What do yall think?
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Old 04-05-2021, 02:38 PM   #2
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Keeping grass mowed short will help with chiggers and ticks. Spray shoes and legs with OFF. Clearing brush means fewer rodents which means fewer fleas. Barn cats carry a lot of fleas. If they are tame try to treat them with some kind of topical.
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Old 04-05-2021, 02:43 PM   #3
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I treat my clothes witg permethrin. Ticks have all kinds of nasty crap tgey can give you.

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Old 04-05-2021, 02:45 PM   #4
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I believe permethrin is safe for cattle. You could spray the barn walls and areas with some of that to help keep them from coming in.
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Old 04-05-2021, 02:50 PM   #5
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If you aren't a large operation and have a pinch point cattle HAVE to walk through you might look into something like the "Cattle Curtain" we have used it in the past with a combination of permethrin and mineral oil to great success.
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Old 04-05-2021, 04:07 PM   #6
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I will pass that along to him. I had the same concern at the family farm a few years ago. If I’m able to make something happen with that I will have to do the same stuff.
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Old 04-05-2021, 07:33 PM   #7
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Guys..... ticks, fleas, chiggers, and for the most part mosquitoes are totally preventable. Three doses of ivermectin in spring and three in fall. Forget about stinky repellent after that.
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Old 04-05-2021, 07:52 PM   #8
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Old 04-05-2021, 08:22 PM   #9
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I don’t know about his place and chickens. I like chickens. I’ll have to look at ivermectin.
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Old 04-05-2021, 11:13 PM   #10
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there was a thread going earlier today about controlled burns. I bet a little fire would pop those ticks.
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Old 04-05-2021, 11:25 PM   #11
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10% mix of permethrin and water. Spray the clothes and boots/shoes and let it dry. Works like no other!
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Guys..... ticks, fleas, chiggers, and for the most part mosquitoes are totally preventable. Three doses of ivermectin in spring and three in fall. Forget about stinky repellent after that.
Forgive my ignorance, but are you serious?
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Old 04-06-2021, 07:54 AM   #13
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Please keep an eye on things I wound up with Lyme disease and Rocky Mountain Spotted fever it has really taken a toll on my life.I’m sitting here in chronic pain,and it has devoured my brain and abilities.If you find a tick on yourself or kids closely monitor their health if there’s any fever rash or not feeling well,quickly go to doctor and start antibiotics treatment.Quick treatment is the best way to handle it.I had fought strange health issues for years until I got diagnosed,as of right now the future doesn’t look real bright for me all because a couple dam ticks.
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Guys..... ticks, fleas, chiggers, and for the most part mosquitoes are totally preventable. Three doses of ivermectin in spring and three in fall. Forget about stinky repellent after that.
You talkin about human dosing or cattle
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Old 04-06-2021, 08:04 AM   #15
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There are a lot of treatments you can use in the barn. Ask your feed store/ farm supply and NOT Tractor Supply. Some of the sprays will last 3-6 months.

Sika had a great response for preventing these critters on yourself. Keep the brush and grasses knocked down. You can also sprinkle Sevin Dust around but it will wash out with rain.
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Old 04-06-2021, 08:28 AM   #16
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along with treating the premises...you have to treat the source of the ticks and fleas food....cattle, cats, dogs etc. and use the correct dose, as I can attest to resistance in tick populations here in the RGV. We're getting outbreaks all the time from cattle that come up from Mexico. Also, ticks in Cameron and Willacy Co. are permethrin resistant (Fever ticks) that is and nilgai are helping to spread them around. So use your treatment correctly!
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Forgive my ignorance, but are you serious?
Totally serious.
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:06 AM   #18
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:14 AM   #19
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You talkin about human dosing or cattle
I'm talking about a human taking it. You will not have a tick stuck on you nor a chigger bite.
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:40 AM   #20
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Totally serious.
How do you do the doses?
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:43 AM   #21
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I'm talking about a human taking it. You will not have a tick stuck on you nor a chigger bite.
What dosage do you use? Topical or injectable?
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What dosage do you use? Topical or injectable?
4 buck tube of horse wormer from feed store. 1. 87 percent . Maje 5 doses out of it . That's what I do but I'm not a dr so do what you think is right. Your dr can prescribe it.
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I'm talking about a human taking it. You will not have a tick stuck on you nor a chigger bite.
I find that hard to believe as I treated my dog for heartworm with ivermec his whole life and that did nothing to prevent fleas and ticks. Had to treat him separate for fleas n ticks. Now I know permethrin works. You can put a tick on permethrin treated clothing and watch him curl up and fall off in short order.

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Old 04-06-2021, 11:46 AM   #24
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For fleas use the nematodes that can last 3-5 years. Not sure on ticks.
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Old 04-06-2021, 12:24 PM   #25
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I find that hard to believe as I treated my dog for heartworm with ivermec his whole life and that did nothing to prevent fleas and ticks. Had to treat him separate for fleas n ticks. Now I know permethrin works. You can put a tick on permethrin treated clothing and watch him curl up and fall off in short order.

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I really dont care whether you believe that or not.
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Old 04-06-2021, 03:32 PM   #26
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I've heard dusting with sulfur powder will work for chiggers...don't know about ticks and fleas.
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Our agronomist for the ranch brought out some spray for the barn and yard ( we have cattle walking through to get to a pond and hogs coming in for a snack of spilt grain and had a terrible tick problem) sprayed something that was extremely effective it had a UV 1/2 life but he mixed up a strong batch and cured the problem, no clue about what it was, but it took about 1 1/2 years to wear off outside, inside I didn’t see any types of insects for years and years, maybe a chemical dealer on here will chime in, @ home I spray malithin marathon , but it smells and isn’t kid friendly
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4 buck tube of horse wormer from feed store. 1. 87 percent . Maje 5 doses out of it . That's what I do but I'm not a dr so do what you think is right. Your dr can prescribe it.
Thanks for sharing. Does it just slowly leech out of your skin all year keeping them off you?
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4 buck tube of horse wormer from feed store. 1. 87 percent . Maje 5 doses out of it . That's what I do but I'm not a dr so do what you think is right. Your dr can prescribe it.
How far apart are you doing the 3 doses?
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If you aren't a large operation and have a pinch point cattle HAVE to walk through you might look into something like the "Cattle Curtain" we have used it in the past with a combination of permethrin and mineral oil to great success.

I knew a lot of old timers that would take burlap sacks soaked with diesel and tie up in pinch points where they would drag over cattleís back.
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Old 04-06-2021, 06:32 PM   #31
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possum or guinea hens. Both eat a lot of ticks
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Old 04-06-2021, 07:08 PM   #32
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Guys..... ticks, fleas, chiggers, and for the most part mosquitoes are totally preventable. Three doses of ivermectin in spring and three in fall. Forget about stinky repellent after that.
Hmmmm?
I took an ivermectin Rx when I had the RONA in January. We'll see if it is still effective, I guess.
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Guys..... ticks, fleas, chiggers, and for the most part mosquitoes are totally preventable. Three doses of ivermectin in spring and three in fall. Forget about stinky repellent after that.
Or take Vitamin B1 once a day. No bites for me.
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possum or guinea hens. Both eat a lot of ticks
Possums are carriers of Typhus, which is transmitted by fleas.

I have had it and wouldn't wish it on anyone.
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For folks considering taking ivermectin for fleas and ticks please do your own research. It does not work.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...0440171630365X
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Please keep an eye on things I wound up with Lyme disease and Rocky Mountain Spotted fever it has really taken a toll on my life.Iím sitting here in chronic pain,and it has devoured my brain and abilities.If you find a tick on yourself or kids closely monitor their health if thereís any fever rash or not feeling well,quickly go to doctor and start antibiotics treatment.Quick treatment is the best way to handle it.I had fought strange health issues for years until I got diagnosed,as of right now the future doesnít look real bright for me all because a couple dam ticks.
Your point is well made, sir.

When my daughter was ten, she came down with some very unusual symptoms which had her pediatrician completely perplexed. Fortunately, we happened to know a pediatric infectious disease specialist who quickly determined she had Lyme Disease. (I know, seriously?) She was put on antibiotics which quickly took care of the issue, but we were told it was a good thing we caught it early because if it had been left undiagnosed (which is easy to do as these symptoms mimic those of other common childhood garden-variety illnesses), she could have suffered serious life-long health issues as a result. (I still shudder when I think of it!)

Even more interesting is the fact that the ticks that cause Lyme Disease (which generally come from deer as was probably the case in our situation) are so small that they might go unnoticed or even confused with a small speck of dirt.

As our pedi infections disease specialist liked to say, the tick that causes Lyme disease is "smaller than the "o" of "In God We Trust" on a dime."
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Or take Vitamin B1 once a day. No bites for me.
Have you ever looked into why that works?
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Have you ever looked into why that works?

VITAMIN B

Some people swear by Vitamin B, and specifically B-1, for tick prevention although it is not proven scientifically and does not work for everyone. Perhaps it varies by individuals as it interacts differently with each personís unique physical makeup. I look for non-synthetic, all-natural, plant-based vitamin B complex. It is said that once in your bloodstream, the smell of vitamin B, undetectable to yourself or other people, is offensive to ticks and other insects and keeps them off your skin in favor of a more desirable host.


https://www.raicesculturalcenter.org...ck-prevention/
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VITAMIN B

Some people swear by Vitamin B, and specifically B-1, for tick prevention although it is not proven scientifically and does not work for everyone. Perhaps it varies by individuals as it interacts differently with each personís unique physical makeup. I look for non-synthetic, all-natural, plant-based vitamin B complex. It is said that once in your bloodstream, the smell of vitamin B, undetectable to yourself or other people, is offensive to ticks and other insects and keeps them off your skin in favor of a more desirable host.


https://www.raicesculturalcenter.org...ck-prevention/
Very interesting. You would think then that they would be able to synthesize that smell for a topical use? Thanks for sharing!
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For folks considering taking ivermectin for fleas and ticks please do your own research. It does not work.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...0440171630365X

Your study is on dogs.

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Your study is on dogs.

Tooth paste does not work on dogs either.


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You have to use beef flavored toothpaste. Duh!
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Your study is on dogs.

Tooth paste does not work on dogs either.


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The study is on fleas and ticks. Ivermectin is ivermectin

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The study is on fleas and ticks. Ivermectin is ivermectin

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Doesnít mean it will have the same results...
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Doesnít mean it will have the same results...
So a flea/tick ingesting ivermectin from dog blood wont kill it or repel it. But, a human taking ivermectin wont even get bitten is what's being suggested. Yall go right ahead and eat it, I'll just use permethrin

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Tooth paste does not work on dogs either.
Why?
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Why?
Cause he didnt put it on a toothbrush

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I permethrin EVERYTHING.


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Old 04-09-2021, 12:52 PM   #48
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For folks considering taking ivermectin for fleas and ticks please do your own research. It does not work.

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But it works for heartworms
the 1% injectable
but you give it to the dogs oraly
.1 cc per 10 lbs
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But it works for heartworms
the 1% injectable
but you give it to the dogs oraly
.1 cc per 10 lbs
Well yes, that's why I gave it to my dog
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