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Old 11-29-2021, 06:41 PM   #1
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I hunt a decently sized piece of property (600ac) in Palo Pinto not far from Palo Pinto Lake. It has seemed like the deer numbers are on a steady decline the past 6-10 years. We have 4 additional lease hunters that have killed at most 2 deer between all hunters per year the past 5 or so years. Many sits result in not seeing anything.

We run 5 corn feeders year round. A couple years weíve had our cattle lesser plant 50 acres of wheat but didnít seem to have a major impact on deer numbers. Cattle guy runs 16 mommas and the property is split between 400 and 200 acres so the cows are on one piece or the other.



Anyone been through something similar. What needs to happen to get deer back?
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Old 11-29-2021, 06:52 PM   #2
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What are the neighboring properties doing? I hunted a property a few years back where the neighbor was running day hunts and deer numbers seemed to dissipate very rapidly. We threw in the towel and that was our last year on that place.


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Old 11-29-2021, 07:24 PM   #3
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That sounds strange for that area. I used to hunt Runnels Co. and we had to kill 20 does a year just to stay even. That was on 1406 acres. It’s been 10/12 years since I’ve been there so I can’t comment on the present. Ask your local biologist.
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Old 11-29-2021, 07:29 PM   #4
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Preditors or big cats?
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Old 11-29-2021, 07:35 PM   #5
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I hunt runnels and the deer population seems to be ok. I do know on average I hear anywhere from 7-15 gun shots just about every sit. Weekday or weekend doesnít matter. Unbelievable the amount of bangs that I hear, Iím guessing hogs make up some but with the density of hunters I can see a dent being put in it if they are all connecting.


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Old 11-29-2021, 07:41 PM   #6
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What are the neighboring properties doing? I hunted a property a few years back where the neighbor was running day hunts and deer numbers seemed to dissipate very rapidly. We threw in the towel and that was our last year on that place.


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Most of the property owners around havenít changed, most have some hunting but no big day lease type operations. We do have quite a few 3-5 acre places around some with feeders.

Not sure on predators, Iíve tried to do the varmint calling thing and havenít had much luck. Donít see coyotes running around all day or anything.

One of my theories is all the lake houses are covered in deer so they realized thatís a safer location to be at.
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Old 11-29-2021, 07:44 PM   #7
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I know a place was near you that was having the same Issue. 5000acres on the north end of Palo pinto lake. We put in an extensive predator control program and the deer numbers have improved. That’s probably not going to help your situation with a property your size. I would suggest putting big hog panel pens around your feeders, otherwise the hogs will keep the deer chased off. Good luck.
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Old 11-29-2021, 10:05 PM   #8
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I know a place was near you that was having the same Issue. 5000acres on the north end of Palo pinto lake. We put in an extensive predator control program and the deer numbers have improved. Thatís probably not going to help your situation with a property your size. I would suggest putting big hog panel pens around your feeders, otherwise the hogs will keep the deer chased off. Good luck.
Hogs have been worse this year. We have a feed pen on one feeder but then the corn just stacks up.

What was the main predator you were controlling? Didnít realize there was a ranch quite that big in the area. I thought the high fence on the west side of the lake was the biggest in the area.
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Old 11-29-2021, 10:39 PM   #9
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I grew up hunting that area. My dad hunted it before and when the lake was built. Our place was just up the road from all of the lake cabins you mentioned.
Your place doesnít happen to have an old tin shack/ cabin that yíall stay in does it?


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Old 11-29-2021, 10:54 PM   #10
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What’s eating the corn?
I’d put something dead out and sit on it to see if there are big yote numbers
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Old 11-30-2021, 05:41 PM   #11
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I grew up hunting that area. My dad hunted it before and when the lake was built. Our place was just up the road from all of the lake cabins you mentioned.
Your place doesnít happen to have an old tin shack/ cabin that yíall stay in does it?


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No we are just off 4 in lone camp.
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Old 11-30-2021, 05:42 PM   #12
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Whatís eating the corn?
Iíd put something dead out and sit on it to see if there are big yote numbers
Mostly pigs with an occasional deer or Turkey but not consistent enough to see hunting.
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Old 11-30-2021, 05:46 PM   #13
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Get rid of the pigs. Or try. We have a place that’s small, when pigs migrate in, the deer are few and far between. Pigs leave for one reason or another, deer numbers are up. At least that helps in out area
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Old 11-30-2021, 08:51 PM   #14
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No we are just off 4 in lone camp.

I know that area well from years ago.


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Old 11-30-2021, 09:14 PM   #15
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I hunt down the road just west from you. Its the **** pigs. we didnt see any deer this year until we started killing the hell out of them. bigger the feeder pens the better also.
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