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Old 01-28-2021, 11:13 AM   #1
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I am in the market for a new pickup, and will consider every manufacture. I am wanting a Crew Cab, 4X4 and I keep my vehicles for at least 10 years. I drove the 2021 Tundra and loved it. Then I drove a couple of F-150's last night. The first one had a 3.5 EcoBoost and the other had a 5.0 V8. I was really impressed with the 5.0, although I have never been a fan of Ford trucks. The 5.0 is rated at 22 mpg hwy, where the Tundra is rated at 17. I plan to check out a Chevy or GMC with the 3.0 diesel and I guess I should go drive a Ram. I hate to go with the Tundra and be stuck getting 12-15 mpg for the next 10 years, even though it may be the best built truck of them all.

Any input is appreciated, particularly if you have spent a lot of time in several of them to make an actual comparison.
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Old 01-28-2021, 11:17 AM   #2
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Tundra... lil to no maintenance, no front ends to replace etc. Just drive and enjoy. The thing to remember is you drive for smiles not miles regarding the gas mileage.
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Old 01-28-2021, 11:18 AM   #3
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I’ve become a fan of the 3.5 ecoboost. Wife has it in her expedition, and it has been pretty impressive. She averages almost 19 mpg.
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Old 01-28-2021, 11:19 AM   #5
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I have a GMC 5.3 with 10 speed getting overall average for 7000 miles about 19. It does what I need, but still wished I had the 6.2. Those just didn't have the high rebates like the 5.3s.
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Tundra, F150, Ram in that order
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Old 01-28-2021, 11:29 AM   #8
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I have a 2016 f-150 5.0 with 218,000 miles. It consistently gets 17.5-18mpg. Highway only it gets 19-20 or better depending on the wind and terrain. I change oil every 5000 miles.
Just changed the plugs and coils at 213,000. It is the Six speed auto and the newer ones have the 10 speed which may get better mileage. Other than regular maintenance it’s been a great truck. Company vehicle, drive it like I stole it.
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Old 01-28-2021, 11:30 AM   #10
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Hard to beat a Tundra 77k miles on my 2017 not a single issue. One thing to consider is a new design will be out next year I believe. It will come with a twin turbo V6 though. Don't know if they will still have their current 5.7 anymore.
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Hard to beat a Tundra 77k miles on my 2017 not a single issue. One thing to consider is a new design will be out next year I believe. It will come with a twin turbo V6 though. Don't know if they will still have their current 5.7 anymore.
I will personally never have a turbo anything again if at all possible !! Then again I'm not a put your foot in it guy. If I go back to 1/2 ton I'll go back to F150 or the Tundra whichever is the better deal at the time I like them both. I never had problem with my F150 and my buddy never had a problem with his Tundra and I'm not a big brand buy guy but pretty well would be between those 2 for me.
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I went with another Cheby. Silverado High Country with 6.2 and 10 speed, 4wd and love the fuel mileage it gets with the big motor. I have averaged over 20 mpg on long trips to south Texas running 75-80.
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Now that is impressive. My F250 with big gas gets 13
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Old 01-28-2021, 12:17 PM   #14
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I went with another Cheby. Silverado High Country with 6.2 and 10 speed, 4wd and love the fuel mileage it gets with the big motor. I have averaged over 20 mpg on long trips to south Texas running 75-80.
It requires premium fuel, doesn't it?

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Any comments on any of the 1/2 ton diesel engines?

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how many miles you drive a year?
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Old 01-28-2021, 12:57 PM   #17
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Really!!!?
Didn't you read the "Tundra or Titan" thread?
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Old 01-28-2021, 12:58 PM   #18
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If you're interested in diesel, just get a 3/4 ton. Tundra is a no brainer If the gas mileage bugs you, the next gen tundra's will have WAY better gas mileage, but it won't be as much as a "TRUCK" as the current model tundras. Be a little more neutered like the F-150.
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If you're interested in diesel, just get a 3/4 ton. Tundra is a no brainer If the gas mileage bugs you, the next gen tundra's will have WAY better gas mileage, but it won't be as much as a "TRUCK" as the current model tundras. Be a little more neutered like the F-150.
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I have a 2020 ram eco diesel 4x4 crew cab and I love it. I have 20,000 miles on it and no issues. It gets a combined 25-26 running around town. When I I get it on the highway 28-29. One time with 1200lbs of feed in the back on the way to the lease 100 miles I got 27.1 mpg for the trip


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I was trying to make the same decision in December. I was only considering a Tundra or the F150 though as I have had horrible experiences with Dodge and Chevy. I ended up choosing a Platinum F150 FX4 Crew Cab with the 3.5 Ecoboost (375 HP & 470 Torque) and the 38 gallon fuel tank. I drive a minimum of 110 miles per day and sometimes much more so the Tundra's gas mileage would have made a big difference in fuel cost. I've already put 7800 miles on my truck since early December. Right now I average about 18mpg with a mix of city and highway, driving 80-85 when on the highway. I'm sure it would do better if I would keep my foot out of it. It would have been maybe 13mpg with the Tundra in the same scenario. The next factor was how dated the Tundra has become. They are in major need of updates to keep up with the other manufacturers. I am a huge Toyota fan but I felt they were behind Ford in interior amenities, comfort, technology, etc. When your in a truck as much as me everyday, it makes a difference. They are due to release the new Tundra next year but I didn't want to wait. The decked out Tundra is cheaper than a decked out F150, but at the end of the day, I just liked the Ford better. That may change next time after the new Tundra's are released.

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Old 01-28-2021, 01:37 PM   #23
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Old 01-28-2021, 01:37 PM   #24
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If you're interested in diesel, just get a 3/4 ton. Tundra is a no brainer If the gas mileage bugs you, the next gen tundra's will have WAY better gas mileage, but it won't be as much as a "TRUCK" as the current model tundras. Be a little more neutered like the F-150.
When you say “neutered” what do you mean. I had a 2009 and a 2019 tundra 4x4 with the 5.7 and neither would run or tow with the new 5.0 or especially the 3.5 ecoboost. Both Tundras were good stout trucks, and I never had any problems with either of them.
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Old 01-28-2021, 01:41 PM   #25
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In half ton, GMC 6.2, or Ford Raptor. Dodge TRX is way too rare at this point, and Chevy's are just horrifically ugly.
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When you say “neutered” what do you mean. I had a 2009 and a 2019 tundra 4x4 with the 5.7 and neither would run or tow with the new 5.0 or especially the 3.5 ecoboost. Both Tundras were good stout trucks, and I never had any problems with either of them.


Yep the 5.7 Tundra is lacking quite a bit in performance compared to the current 5.0 Coyote and the 3.5 Ecoboost, especially if you get the F150 limited with the 450hp Ecoboost.


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Old 01-28-2021, 01:57 PM   #28
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I have been driving Fords for quite a while. All company trucks withe the 5.0 and i got 16-18 mpg combined. That was 2008-2015. Put multiple trucks to 180,000 miles before swapping and little to no repairs. 99% just routine maintenance.

I have heard a ton about Tundra’s durability and their following. However, knowing fuel will get more and more costly with crazy joe in the WH, i would stay away from the Tundra and go with the more improved Ecoboost. What bugs were there at inception have been fixed.

Can’t say much for Chevy. Never owned one, mostly because their interiors were ugly to me.


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The Tundra is one of the easiest to work on. None of the cylinders are under the dash, like every other MFG
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GM Trail Boss or F150 Limited or Raptor. Can't miss on these.
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I was trying to make the same decision in December. I was only considering a Tundra or the F150 though as I have had horrible experiences with Dodge and Chevy. I ended up choosing a Platinum F150 FX4 Crew Cab with the 3.5 Ecoboost (375 HP & 470 Torque) and the 38 gallon fuel tank. I drive a minimum of 110 miles per day and sometimes much more so the Tundra's gas mileage would have made a big difference in fuel cost. I've already put 7800 miles on my truck since early December. Right now I average about 18mpg with a mix of city and highway, driving 80-85 when on the highway. I'm sure it would do better if I would keep my foot out of it. It would have been maybe 13mpg with the Tundra in the same scenario. The next factor was how dated the Tundra has become. They are in major need of updates to keep up with the other manufacturers. I am a huge Toyota fan but I felt they were behind Ford in interior amenities, comfort, technology, etc. When your in a truck as much as me everyday, it makes a difference. They are due to release the new Tundra next year but I didn't want to wait. The decked out Tundra is cheaper than a decked out F150, but at the end of the day, I just liked the Ford better. That may change next time after the new Tundra's are released.
This is what makes the decision to get a Tundra so difficult. It's a great truck, no doubt, but it's outdated and gets horrible gas mileage. It's also the last year for the current design. When they start selling the new design next year, it will be really outdated.

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This is what makes the decision to get a Tundra so difficult. It's a great truck, no doubt, but it's outdated and gets horrible gas mileage. It's also the last year for the current design. When they start selling the new design next year, it will be really outdated.

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Yah that was my exact thoughts when I was trying to decide. They are great trucks but those two things mattered to me.
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I have an f350, my son has a tundra, my sister has ( had) a Chevy and a very good friend of ours has a dodge. I would take my sons truck over the others, without question.
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If you’re driving a truck around like a car / not hauling any payload, I don’t think it matters
Toyota gets terrible mpg and the trd drags the bumper with a trailer
My 2014 Silverado is hit or miss on mpg anywhere from 12 -18 with no load
Ford ego boost is about the same

I am thinking about just buying a f150 with a baseline V6 3.3 for every day use and keep the Chevy when I need some payload moved
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Not much has been mentioned one way or another about the Dodge Ram, but I was recently made aware of a critical design flaw or quality issue that I had not heard about on the news or read about in any auto trade magazines.

Apparently, according to my daughter and her friends, it is a widely held tenet among young women under 30 that men who drive Rams generally possess overly large “attitudes,” as she put it, that compensate for other overly small or deficient...um, physical attributes.

As for me, I couldn’t say. Just thought I’d share, for whatever it’s worth to you.
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I just got the Expedition Max with the eco boost and have fallen in love with it. Used to be a GMC guy, but heard good things, and wanted to give it a try. Has been well worth it in the short time I've had it.

I have mine for a lot of highway driving though.
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I have been driving Fords for quite a while. All company trucks withe the 5.0 and i got 16-18 mpg combined. That was 2008-2015. Put multiple trucks to 180,000 miles before swapping and little to no repairs. 99% just routine maintenance.

I have heard a ton about Tundra’s durability and their following. However, knowing fuel will get more and more costly with crazy joe in the WH, i would stay away from the Tundra and go with the more improved Ecoboost. What bugs were there at inception have been fixed.

Can’t say much for Chevy. Never owned one, mostly because their interiors were ugly to me.


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And those Ford engines are about used up at 180,000 miles. As expensive as trucks cost now, if he plans on keeping his truck for 10 years, you think 180,000 miles will get him 10 years. Get a Tundra.
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Just a little PSA. I was getting 13.6MPG on my Tundra. Switched the air filter to a WIX and went back up to 14.8. Still not good but anything helps....lol
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Bottom line if you want a REAL TRUCK, the trade off is, your not going to have the MPG of a Prius. Just look around and see how many 2000-2010 tundra's are still on the road vs all the other manufacturer's in the same year models. That should help you make your decision.
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If you’re driving a truck around like a car / not hauling any payload, I don’t think it matters
Toyota gets terrible mpg and the trd drags the bumper with a trailer
My 2014 Silverado is hit or miss on mpg anywhere from 12 -18 with no load
Ford ego boost is about the same

I am thinking about just buying a f150 with a baseline V6 3.3 for every day use and keep the Chevy when I need some payload moved
If you're just driving a truck around like a car........buy a car. You'll save a lot of money.
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This is what makes the decision to get a Tundra so difficult. It's a great truck, no doubt, but it's outdated and gets horrible gas mileage. It's also the last year for the current design. When they start selling the new design next year, it will be really outdated.

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Dependability, comfort and proven mattered to me. So did the size of the front seat area for a big guy. I'm too **** old to care what folks think about my truck's "date". I just wanted new, dependable and proven. I went with the Tundra after driving all three mostly due to the comfort in the front seat and dependability Toyota is famous for. When I hit a deer and my truck went in the shop, I was put in a F150 platinum. I was glad to get back into my Tundra after 2 weeks.....that's all I'm gonna say about that.. That being said everybody is different. Drive them all..buy what you like.
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Have a 2020 Silverado with the 3.0 duramax. I'm very happy with it.

Had a tundra but wrecked it last year. Loved the truck and would have looked at them again but I know drive 80miles a day when I need to go to the office vs the 15 before.



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I was trying to make the same decision in December. I was only considering a Tundra or the F150 though as I have had horrible experiences with Dodge and Chevy. I ended up choosing a Platinum F150 FX4 Crew Cab with the 3.5 Ecoboost (375 HP & 470 Torque) and the 38 gallon fuel tank. I drive a minimum of 110 miles per day and sometimes much more so the Tundra's gas mileage would have made a big difference in fuel cost. I've already put 7800 miles on my truck since early December. Right now I average about 18mpg with a mix of city and highway, driving 80-85 when on the highway. I'm sure it would do better if I would keep my foot out of it. It would have been maybe 13mpg with the Tundra in the same scenario. The next factor was how dated the Tundra has become. They are in major need of updates to keep up with the other manufacturers. I am a huge Toyota fan but I felt they were behind Ford in interior amenities, comfort, technology, etc. When your in a truck as much as me everyday, it makes a difference. They are due to release the new Tundra next year but I didn't want to wait. The decked out Tundra is cheaper than a decked out F150, but at the end of the day, I just liked the Ford better. That may change next time after the new Tundra's are released.
So you bought a top of the line loaded platinum truck for yourself but you wont spend on health insurance to cover your children? You owe it to your kids and could afford insurance if you would choose cloth over leather and all the bells and whistles. Mind boggling
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So you bought a top of the line loaded platinum truck for yourself but you wont spend on health insurance to cover your children? You owe it to your kids and could afford insurance if you would choose cloth over leather and all the bells and whistles. Mind boggling
Man how about you mind your own business. My family and my finances are none of your concern. The fact that you think you need to tell another man something like this is what is mind boggling.
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No problems with my 2015 f150 3.5 ecoboost and I would buy it again. I currently have 150k miles on it. No major issues and plan to keep for several more years. I drive in Houston so a lot of stop and go traffic and I drive as fast as I can get away with. Average about 17 mpg

The interior of the Ford I don't think can be beat. It sure is fun putting it in Turbo....
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1999 Chevy 2500 6.0 297,000 miles
2003 Chevy 2500 305,000 and sunk it in the ocean.
2008 Chevy 1500 5.3 325,000 miles and still going.
2015 GMC 5.3 180,000 and going strong.
My wife's 2008....not sure mileage but still her daily driver. It's been in the shop once for ball joints.

During those same years my buddy couldn't get his Ford diesels over 100,000 without all sorts of issues.

No experience with Tundras but alot of guys sure like them.

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Old 01-28-2021, 05:54 PM   #47
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1999 Chevy 2500 6.0 297,000 miles
2003 Chevy 2500 305,000 and sunk it in the ocean.
2008 Chevy 1500 5.3 325,000 miles and still going.
2915 GMC 5.3 180,000 and going strong.
My wife's 2008....not sure mileage but still her daily driver. It's been in the shop once for ball joints.

During those same years my buddy couldn't get his Ford diesels over 100,000 without all sorts of issues.

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and probably all had a headlight out
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Old 01-28-2021, 05:58 PM   #48
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and probably all had a headlight out

And the headliner drooping on his head...
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Old 01-28-2021, 05:58 PM   #49
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1/2 ton I’d prolly go tundra
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Old 01-28-2021, 06:07 PM   #50
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Hard to beat a Tundra 77k miles on my 2017 not a single issue. One thing to consider is a new design will be out next year I believe. It will come with a twin turbo V6 though. Don't know if they will still have their current 5.7 anymore.
This is the only thing that could get me out of my F150, and probably will. I've always loved Toyota's. Im going to wait and let them work the kinks out of it for a couple years, and get one more than likely.
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