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Old 04-19-2021, 01:16 PM   #1
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Just got my first lease. Always hunted on a friendís before. How common is it to sign a contract and liability release?
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Old 04-19-2021, 01:16 PM   #2
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I'd think very common.
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Old 04-19-2021, 01:20 PM   #3
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I haven't ever been on one that didn't require it.
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Old 04-19-2021, 01:35 PM   #4
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Very common.

I would be concerned if I was dealing with someone I had never met and they did not require contract and I was handing them money.

The good news is that after a year or two and it appears to be a long-term place, you can always try to negotiate a multi year lease
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Old 04-19-2021, 01:39 PM   #5
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No sign, no hunt.

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Old 04-19-2021, 02:45 PM   #6
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Last lease I had required both. Lease I have now requires neither. I hand him money and he gives me gate code. Those aren't worth the paper they are written on anyway but lots of people require them now.
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Old 04-19-2021, 02:48 PM   #7
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The lease my agreement may not be but the liability release can save your butt.

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Old 04-19-2021, 02:49 PM   #8
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I had a 1400 acre lease in Runnels Co. for 18 years with no lease contract. Thing is, he was a land and lease attorney. A handshake was all we ever had. He was a **** good man and he passed away about year 6 from a massive heart attack. I missed him every year after.
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Old 04-19-2021, 02:49 PM   #9
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I have been on 3 lease in my life. One for 12 years. One for 6 years. The last one for 8 years. The last 2 lease sold which is why we had to leave. I have never signed one.

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Old 04-19-2021, 03:14 PM   #10
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I haven't ever been on one that didn't require it.
I`ve never been on one that did require one.
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Old 04-19-2021, 03:30 PM   #11
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Been on 3 leases and have never signed anything.
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Old 04-19-2021, 03:45 PM   #12
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should not be a big deal unless you plan on holding them liable for something you do.
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Old 04-19-2021, 04:06 PM   #13
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one of my leases has a contract other is over a hand shake, handshake one is bigger and comes with full access to a nice house. i think a hand shake is plenty enough if both parties understand each other and respect each other, but i also see why some like it it writing
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Old 04-19-2021, 04:43 PM   #14
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Our lease hunters sign both. Our guest sign liability waivers too. It’s a crazy world.
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Old 04-19-2021, 05:03 PM   #15
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I would not lease a ranch with out a written and signed contract - if I am going to pay for feed and help manage a place I want some type of assurance that we can keep it for a set period of time. Unfortunately hand shake deals can go south real quick on a deer lease
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Old 04-19-2021, 05:05 PM   #16
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I would not lease a ranch with out a written and signed contract - if I am going to pay for feed and help manage a place I want some type of assurance that we can keep it for a set period of time. Unfortunately hand shake deals can go south real quick on a deer lease
Every deal I've seen go south was with a contract. What are you going to do if the LO tells you to get off? You're going to get off...lol. Unless you want to spend thousands fighting with him.
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Old 04-19-2021, 05:11 PM   #17
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Just got my first lease. Always hunted on a friend’s before. How common is it to sign a contract and liability release?
Nothing personal but I wouldn't let anyone on my property without one... I added provisions in mine for a refund if the property gets sold out from under them so that made both parties very comforatble.
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Old 04-19-2021, 05:14 PM   #18
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interesting story, I lease a small tract of land next to our large lease. Picked it up in 2011 leasing it directly from an attorney who owned it. Signed a contract that year and have just sent renewal checks to his office every year since. Back in December I sent in the lease dues for 2021/22 season just like every year. Got a call last week from a very nice lady who said she was the attorneys daughter and that he had past away in 2019. She said they had no idea what the check was for or even what piece of land it was for. Said they had no paperwork except for a ledger of payment from me every year. She was shocked that we had leased from her dad for 10 years and never once had an issue and no contract in place since the first year. Need less to say we are back to signing a contract every year :-)
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Old 04-19-2021, 05:21 PM   #19
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Every deal I've seen go south was with a contract. What are you going to do if the LO tells you to get off? You're going to get off...lol. Unless you want to spend thousands fighting with him.
depends on how the lease agreement is written - to each his own -

and yes I would have no problem enforcing a legal contract - no different from any other legal contract
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Old 04-19-2021, 05:23 PM   #20
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depends on how the lease agreement is written - to each his own -

and yes I would have no problem enforcing a legal contract - no different from any other legal contract

Maybe you would. Most people wouldnít spend more to enforce the contract than it costs to walk away from. Iíve seen threads on here about the veery thing. If they want you gone, youíre gone.
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Old 04-19-2021, 05:40 PM   #21
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For me it's not about that. It's about what is and isn't allowed. Expectations, exceptions and consequences for failure to follow rules.
For example use of ranch roads and off road vehicles.

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Old 04-19-2021, 05:43 PM   #22
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For me it's not about that. It's about what is and isn't allowed. Expectations, exceptions and consequences for failure to follow rules.
For example use of ranch roads and off road vehicles.

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Definitely not bad to make sure youíre on the same page with that stuff. My current lease is just 3 of us and Iím the youngest at 48. We just act like we have a brain and never a problem.
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Old 04-19-2021, 05:51 PM   #23
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Maybe you would. Most people wouldnít spend more to enforce the contract than it costs to walk away from. Iíve seen threads on here about the veery thing. If they want you gone, youíre gone.
On a lease for 13 years - top end south texas ranch - our lease cost per year? $200,000 - better bet I would take legal action if the contract was broken
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Old 04-19-2021, 05:52 PM   #24
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For me it's not about that. It's about what is and isn't allowed. Expectations, exceptions and consequences for failure to follow rules.
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you are correct - agreement just spells out what is expected from both parties
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Old 04-19-2021, 05:53 PM   #25
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Maybe you would. Most people wouldnít spend more to enforce the contract than it costs to walk away from. Iíve seen threads on here about the veery thing. If they want you gone, youíre gone.











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Old 04-19-2021, 05:55 PM   #26
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On a lease for 13 years - top end south texas ranch - our lease cost per year? $200,000 - better bet I would take legal action if the contract was broken

I would too in that case. Iím just saying Iíve seen it happen first hand. The ranch sold and the new owner didnít want hunters. One member spent a small fortune and ended up gone just like us.
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Old 04-19-2021, 06:24 PM   #27
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I have have signed contracts and waivers on most of my leases in the past but actually don’t have either on current leases. But they are more short term/season only.
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