Can’t eat them horns. Guess the Texas parks and wildlife forgot that people eat deer. Not just mount them.
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I understand both sides of the debate. If you don’t buy into the AR regs, then all of the elitist hunters think you are a member of the “if it’s brown, it’s down” clan. My guess is, before it’s over with, the State will want all bucks to be P&Y minimum. Because we all know that if a buck doesn’t meet a certain criteria and you want to reward your youth hunter with their first ever deer, then you’re obviously a bad parent and shouldn’t be allowed to take to your kids hunting.
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Originally posted by Quackerbox View PostNot even close..
Attended a high school sporting clays event today. In the rain and mud. If there was one there was 175 kids there. Im willing to bet 90% of them deer hunt. I know every one of the 40 or so I knew do. With their parents.
Id also like to add our high school team had 5 shooters last year. We're over 20 this year. Kids shooting sports is growing leaps and bounds!
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TPWL say youth hunter numbers are down.
My son hunts, been going to the deer stand with me since he was 2.... he’s in the minority at his school
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Originally posted by Javelin View Postthe whole youth should be exempt is the exact same mentality as everyone gets a trophy. we need to teach our youth that sometimes the reward comes with hard work and effort. if you feel your kid will lose interest if they dont get to shoot a deer take them squirrel hunting or coon hunting or some other sort of hunting where shot opportunities come more often then transition them to deer.
congrats to the OP's kid for doing the right thing.
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Originally posted by Calfroper81 View PostI agree with u on this. I understand you wanting ur kid to be able to harvest something so that u can celebrate and be proud of them but teaching ur kids patience and what it takes to put in the effort is what it’s all about. If they can kill something every time they go out and put in no effort to kill anything then what’s the point.
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I’ve started to pay attention to this trend the last few years, and where I’m at it’s certainly true that hunter numbers are declining (we’ve lost 18,000 hunters in the last 5 years in Arkansas). In Arkansas! A state far more rural than Texas that is renowned for hunting. 18,000!!!
People just aren’t getting into it like they used to. Luckily, our youth hunters can shoot the first deer that steps out & I wholeheartedly believe they ought to be able to. We are blessed to have really good deer hunting and really good numbers, but a lot of deer MUST be shot to maintain balance!
It’s late black powder season in my zone. I hunted on top of a ridge in the absolute heart of north Arkansas deer country this morning. Beautiful snowy morning, deer were moving everywhere, and I heard a grand total of ONE shot. No one is in the woods anymore!
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Originally posted by Razrbk89 View PostI’ve started to pay attention to this trend the last few years, and where I’m at it’s certainly true that hunter numbers are declining (we’ve lost 18,000 hunters in the last 5 years in Arkansas). In Arkansas! A state far more rural than Texas that is renowned for hunting. 18,000!!!
People just aren’t getting into it like they used to. Luckily, our youth hunters can shoot the first deer that steps out & I wholeheartedly believe they ought to be able to. We are blessed to have really good deer hunting and really good numbers, but a lot of deer MUST be shot to maintain balance!
It’s late black powder season in my zone. I hunted on top of a ridge in the absolute heart of north Arkansas deer country this morning. Beautiful snowy morning, deer were moving everywhere, and I heard a grand total of ONE shot. No one is in the woods anymore!Last edited by Low Fence; 12-08-2018, 09:04 PM.
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Originally posted by Low Fence View PostMust be regional then. I’ve seen every place I hunt in that state grow 10x and some to the point thy aren’t huntable anymore in just the last 5-6 years. Places that inve had 4-5 cars on tens of thousands of acres now there’s no parking atea
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Originally posted by Razrbk89 View PostDuck hunting, I’m guessing?
I won’t blame people for not knowing better, they got to learn. But there’s ZERO hunter shortage. There’s a land shortage
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Originally posted by Low Fence View PostBoth. Started duck and it got so bad I quit the whole state. Deer is getting 2x worse by the year. This year I took a boat over a mile down a very large river, into a mega super larger river and went upstream a ways with a 225 hp out board to access a place that would take people 2.5 miles MINIMUM to access....... saw hunters. Walking around prime rim clueless. Saw a fawn running at speeds not thought possible of a North America animal.
I won’t blame people for not knowing better, they got to learn. But there’s ZERO hunter shortage. There’s a land shortage
As far as the deer hunting goes, the primo public areas you’re describing have changed some too, again, largely due to out of state hunters. Check the license plates next time you go to the river... I was shocked last year when I went...
I was mainly talking about private lands and the numbers/observations don’t lie. Participation is down markedly. I am concerned about it.
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All this complaint about getting youth involved for so many various reasons.
I have to call B.S.
There are so many opportunities out there. State youth draw hunts, TPWD various youth programs, organizations that do youth hunts, not to count the number of people that would take a youth to their place to hunt in a heartbeat if the interest was expressed.
I don’t think it is an opportunity or antler restriction issue, but a lack of interest from a parent/guardian/mentor. Easier to complain than work at creating opportunity for the youngster.
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Originally posted by Greenheadless View PostAll this complaint about getting youth involved for so many various reasons.
I have to call B.S.
There are so many opportunities out there. State youth draw hunts, TPWD various youth programs, organizations that do youth hunts, not to count the number of people that would take a youth to their place to hunt in a heartbeat if the interest was expressed.
I don’t think it is an opportunity or antler restriction issue, but a lack of interest from a parent/guardian/mentor. Easier to complain than work at creating opportunity for the youngster.
When younger everything n my area was 200ish acres and the owner and his brother in law and his son hunted it...3 o so. Now that 200 is busted into 20 acre blocks with same situation... 30.
There’s so many hunting in small bull )&@% area Texas it’s crazy and sooo many n quality Texas most can’t afford it.
Numbers are there to the point the land can’t support it on most areas
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Originally posted by DRT View PostWe started on squirrels, rabbits and game birds. Well actually we were murderous little bastages with BB guns on sparrows before that. Hunting was in our blood long before deer hunting.
Gary
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