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Old 09-14-2021, 11:31 AM   #1
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Question Land clearing question for yall

Which method is best? The skid steer or a dozer with one of those root grabbers?I saw five acres a guy had done with a skid steer and he had dang near knocked the hide off of every tree I saw.
Additionally, how can you plant anything with the large chunks of shredded trees covering the ground? I heard it was good because it acted like mulch and kept the ground dry etc etc but Iím not sold on it. The person recommended gets $125.00 per hour, works fast, and is honest.
Whatís yalls input on this? Preciate it.
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Old 09-14-2021, 11:35 AM   #2
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Looks like pros and cons no matter which way.

An excavator with grapple seemed to work best for me. Dozer kicked up far too many rocks. Couldn't do fine clearing with the big excavator though. But we are very rocky also.

Could use dozer to pile and burn. I'd get small piles ready to burn and have him push into the fire as he goes.

I'd love to try the mulching thing but far too rocky.
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Old 09-14-2021, 11:37 AM   #3
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Alot depends on whats there now? large trees etc or just brush.

And then what do you plan to do with it?

If its primarily large timber then a trackhoe and or dozer is the way to go.

Same for small timber if you are wanting to plant something or be able to level grade etc.

If you just want it cleared for recreational purposes then a skid steer with mulcher is a good option due to no piles or mess.

There is a time and place for both alot depends on whats there and the purpose of clearing.

I own and run both.
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Old 09-14-2021, 11:38 AM   #4
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It all depends on the operator, your end game, and your soil type. Pros/cons either way.
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Old 09-14-2021, 11:38 AM   #5
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Excavator and someone who can operate it will be your best bet.
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Old 09-14-2021, 11:38 AM   #6
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Need more info and details to answer your question.

What are you trying to clear? Cedar? Yaupon? prickly pear? what type of soil do you have? County/location?

I was told that mulched cedar keeps the ground moist, but it takes forever to rot and go away, and nothing really grows underneath it.
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Old 09-14-2021, 11:43 AM   #7
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I prefer the skid steer or track hoe over a dozer , depending on the amount of rocks dozers have their place though

Root up pile burn, the mulch isnít the best ground cover

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Old 09-14-2021, 11:56 AM   #8
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Svl95 with a root grapple and you would be surprised with what can be done.

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Old 09-14-2021, 12:10 PM   #9
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It’s in Robertson county, sandy loam, yaupon, large and small oaks, cedars. Looking to clear maybe an acre for cabin and possible food plot. A small place. Wife wants a nice place with fire pit, lights etc. A place to invite people. Its almost 12 acres.
I’ve only got one stretch of fence to run so I’d like some cleared land but still have a privacy barrier around that. The parcel is divided by a small right of way and surrounded by a large ranch on three sides. I realize I can’t manage 12 acres but would like to do something that is beneficial to the wildlife, as far as clearing is concerned.
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Old 09-14-2021, 12:11 PM   #10
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As others have said depends on your land and your intentions.

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Old 09-14-2021, 12:18 PM   #11
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Like has been said, it really depends on a few factors. I would not judge all equipment operators based on one operator knocking the hide off the trees. This usually happens when you have an in-experienced operator or the operator is operating the equipment too fast. Depending on your location and size of the project, the dozer may be more effective than the skid steer.

I own and operate a skid steer with a shredder and have personally not seen the mulch prevent growth of vegetation. However if I were wanting to be able to plant ground cover or food plots quickly, I would avoid shredding.

A few things that I always discuss with customers.
1) What is the end goal of the property. What you want in a residential lot differs from a shooting lane.

2) Location: In the hill country a skid steer can push over just about any tree, which results in the root ball being raised to the surface. In other parts of the state, pushing large trees over is not feasible without a dozer.

3) Cost of disposal - Shredding is typically done quickly and is included in the cost of the machine. Burning may take more time depending on location and burn ban and requires handing of the debris. Haul off - can be done quickly but does cost more.
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Old 09-14-2021, 02:17 PM   #12
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Lots of great information gentlemen. I can’t really add anything as far as a description of what I want done. I was leaning toward a small dozer. The developer is putting in a road and there will be a fence along one side so I don’t know how big a piece of machinery can get in there yet. Dang sure don’t wanna mess the road up and wind up paying for that as well.
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Old 09-14-2021, 02:19 PM   #13
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Dozer with a great operator
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Old 09-14-2021, 02:40 PM   #14
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Lots of great information gentlemen. I canít really add anything as far as a description of what I want done. I was leaning toward a small dozer. The developer is putting in a road and there will be a fence along one side so I donít know how big a piece of machinery can get in there yet. Dang sure donít wanna mess the road up and wind up paying for that as well.
D6 size dozer is about 45,000 lbs and is able to push trees, should be able to truck it In easier then you think if itís not wet
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Old 09-14-2021, 03:17 PM   #15
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give Stolle on here a ring. he does great work and he's a TBH dude.
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Old 09-14-2021, 03:29 PM   #16
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I can tell you don't hire bumpers construction or the guy who works for the county and has a hydroaxe on the side

That said I'd use a hydroaxe

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Old 09-14-2021, 03:55 PM   #17
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Itís in Robertson county, sandy loam, yaupon, large and small oaks, cedars. Looking to clear maybe an acre for cabin and possible food plot. A small place. Wife wants a nice place with fire pit, lights etc. A place to invite people. Its almost 12 acres.
Iíve only got one stretch of fence to run so Iíd like some cleared land but still have a privacy barrier around that. The parcel is divided by a small right of way and surrounded by a large ranch on three sides. I realize I canít manage 12 acres but would like to do something that is beneficial to the wildlife, as far as clearing is concerned.
Easy then have someone with a trackhoe clear cabin sight and surrounding area.

Have fence rows and trails mulched later.
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Old 09-14-2021, 04:01 PM   #18
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For that, if it were me. A dozer and a root rake would be my first choice.
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Old 09-14-2021, 04:18 PM   #19
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Behind my property they put in a pipeline in which was cleared with mulcher on a skidder. This was approximately 5 years ago. I have kept it mowed with one of my shredders on a regular basis. It’s still rough but the grass was decent after about 3 years. Given this I would opt for a dozer with rake and root plow if you want it as a pasture or yard/home place. Underbrushing I would opt for a mulcher. This is in deep east tx.
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Old 09-14-2021, 04:47 PM   #20
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Dozers leave big holes and mulchers leave lots of mulch. Mulch will deteriorate on there own, but those holes need to be filled.
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Old 09-14-2021, 05:17 PM   #21
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For that, if it were me. A dozer and a root rake would be my first choice.
This is the right answer. Mulching g looks great and is cleaner at first. But youíll pay hell I. The long run.
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Old 09-14-2021, 05:52 PM   #22
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When there is multiple inches of mulch on the ground, grass does not grow well at all in those area for a good while. I rented a skid steer with grapple for our place. I took a week off and put 70 working hours on it. It came out to around $45 an hour that I paid to rent it.
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Old 09-14-2021, 05:55 PM   #23
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A week of labor and effort alone would cost me $3-4k. Plus the rental. Hit a good dozer operator and be done with it.
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Old 09-14-2021, 06:01 PM   #24
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Seems like about half and half!
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Old 09-14-2021, 06:05 PM   #25
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Clearing a little bit of 12 acresÖ.Iíd rent a big tracked skid steer and do all you can do. If thereís things you find that you canít do, it will be a short and specific list to hire done.


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Old 09-14-2021, 07:32 PM   #26
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give Stolle on here a ring. he does great work and he's a TBH dude.
What I suggest as well. I betting his work for you would mirror the same work he would do for himself.
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Old 09-14-2021, 11:02 PM   #27
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Clearing a little bit of 12 acresÖ.Iíd rent a big tracked skid steer and do all you can do. If thereís things you find that you canít do, it will be a short and specific list to hire done.


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I agree. This is the right move.


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Old 09-14-2021, 11:30 PM   #28
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I’ve had dozer clear road and fields, did a good job fast. Downside is the 12 brush piles to burn and the ones in the woods still still there I can’t burn. Next two times I hired a guy with mulched on skid steer. Both were clearing yaupons, widening roads, clearing fields, etc. I liked the mulched better, where he cleared I can mow and keep it cleared. As far as debri, after it rots, disc it up, its like adding fertilizer. The mulched went into some small clearings and kept running back and forth, all I had on ground was like that mulch you buy at Home Depot. Already planning another job for the spring.
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Old 09-15-2021, 07:16 AM   #29
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The $125 an hour guys are the ones knocking all the hide as you call it off the trees LOL Those weekend warrior types give the whole mulching industry a bad rap. I’ve got dozers up to a D9 and mulchers from 110 to 380 hp and deal with this stuff daily. With what your looking for find a reputable company and get away from the cheap guys and you will get what your looking for. We often rake up the mulch and haul it off for those that want it gone ASAP and then we grind what stumps are left sticking up and it’s a turn key ready to use site.

If you have any questions feel free to pm me, your to far away for me to help you but I can answer any questions you might have.
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