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Old 05-12-2022, 04:38 PM   #1
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Have about 10 acres I want to spray mesquite on so I was wondering what is the
Go to mixture realizing it could take several years. Not able to grub them out
Appreciate the help
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Old 05-12-2022, 04:42 PM   #2
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We have used Remedy and Sendero both with success
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Old 05-12-2022, 04:45 PM   #3
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Old 05-12-2022, 04:52 PM   #4
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Y'all mix diesel with the remedy? Also, I've heard some spray 2-3ft. of the base of the tree and some also spray both the base and the foliage. Anyone had better luck-one way or the other? Got a bunch to spray so wanting to learn myself!
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Old 05-12-2022, 04:57 PM   #5
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I used remedy with diesel on some scrub mesquite with just so so success. Will try senders next time. It costs twice as much as remedy but you use half as much. Remedy did knock the heck out of pencil cactus though.
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Old 05-12-2022, 05:38 PM   #6
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Remedy kills all woody trees/plants if they have leaves. No leaves, no success,
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Old 05-12-2022, 05:52 PM   #7
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Have about 10 acres I want to spray mesquite on so I was wondering what is the
Go to mixture realizing it could take several years. Not able to grub them out
Appreciate the help
Coleman county

Remedy will work well.
The application method depends on the size.
For larger "rough bark" trees mix 25% Remedy and 75% diesel and spray the bottom 18-20 inches all the way around circumference.
For smaller brush use a 1-2% leaf spray mix with water and a few oz. of a good dish soap.

**don't mix diesel with the leaf spray. The diesel will just burn the leaves off and the plant won't be able to absorb the Remedy. **
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Old 05-12-2022, 05:53 PM   #8
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Remedy/diesel mix. Spray trunk about 8” up from ground until it runs to the soil.
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Old 05-12-2022, 05:55 PM   #9
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Remedy is basal, Sendero is foliar. I used Sendero last year and had great success. Mix with water. My supplier says that he has never recommended mixing either with diesel. It doesn't work better, and the price is prohibitive.
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Old 05-12-2022, 05:58 PM   #10
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Be sure to add the surfactant with Sendero
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Old 05-12-2022, 07:22 PM   #11
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I never mix diesel with remedy but I do use a surfactant
If you are killing bigger trees take a hatchet and notch the tree and spray


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Old 05-12-2022, 07:26 PM   #12
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With a small tree that has been mowed over a few times, the only method is grubbing. Roots keep on keepin on 6-8ft deep while tree gets whacked a few times. Small tree doesn't suck in enough poison to kill the roots. Top will die for a year and come back as a new bush.
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Old 05-12-2022, 07:38 PM   #13
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I've used Remedy and diesel, 1 part Remedy to 4 parts diesel for a basal spray, and it works well. Sendero also works, and I think i used 1 ounce per gallon of spray, but you need to cover the whole bush with it. On smaller bushes, it's cost effective using that mix. I've also used the Pronone power pellets with mixed success. Takes more pellets than the manufacturer says it does. They are pretty easy to apply, but may not show results for a year. And they can get kind of pricey. Stubborn root systems can be killed with the pellets though, since the roots absorb the poison through the soil and not the leaves or bark.

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Old 05-12-2022, 07:39 PM   #14
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I use brush killer, diesel, and dish soap in a 1 gal hand sprayer in heat of summer.
Make compete circle around the base of the tree. Leaves are yellow and tree is dying when i come back next weekend.
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Old 05-12-2022, 08:05 PM   #15
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Thanks for the info!
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Old 05-12-2022, 08:11 PM   #16
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Old 05-12-2022, 09:05 PM   #17
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Remedy will work well.
The application method depends on the size.
For larger "rough bark" trees mix 25% Remedy and 75% diesel and spray the bottom 18-20 inches all the way around circumference.
For smaller brush use a 1-2% leaf spray mix with water and a few oz. of a good dish soap.

**don't mix diesel with the leaf spray. The diesel will just burn the leaves off and the plant won't be able to absorb the Remedy. **
All this.
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Old 05-12-2022, 09:28 PM   #18
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If you are going to spray foliar you should wait a few weeks. Soil temperature should be 80+ for it to work well.
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Old 05-12-2022, 09:36 PM   #19
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Old 05-12-2022, 09:55 PM   #20
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The basal bark spray method, with 15-25% Remedy/Diesel mix (1 quart Remedy to 3-5 quarts of diesel) works, and it’ll work just about all year (works best from late spring to early fall).

Sendero works well (use as a foliar spray), but it has VERY narrow windows of time that it works (based on soil temp, bean elongation, etc). Usually, that’s a few weeks in June, and a few in Aug or Sept. Otherwise, it’s effectiveness is highly variable.

For 10 acres, assuming these are not large trees (basal bark doesn’t work well on large trees), your best bet is basal bark with Remedy (Triclopyr).

The Power Pellets work, but they ARE slow, and they’re about $400 for a 4 lb pail...
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Old 05-12-2022, 10:28 PM   #21
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Didn’t read all the posts so it’s probably been said but I use remedy with a surfactant “to help the chemical stick and stay” and a blue dye so I know which ones I’ve sprayed. For larger diameter mesquite I use a hammer to rough up about a foot of the base to help that chemical get into it. Not sure if your area but there’s a certain time to try and kill them. I usually treat them in June but there’s something about the mesquite leaf that tells you when it’s time. I believe when they start to turn yellow “could be wrong but ask a biologist in your area”. Good luck cause I know they can spread rapidly.
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Old 05-13-2022, 11:05 AM   #22
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For 10 acres, I would contact a local crop duster (aerial applicator) and find out how much it would cost to spray the 10 acres.
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Old 05-13-2022, 12:07 PM   #23
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For 10 acres, I would contact a local crop duster (aerial applicator) and find out how much it would cost to spray the 10 acres.

Just remember if you go this route, you will still need to hire a bull dozer to push them over / clean it up, unless you are prepared to wait years for them to die & fall over.


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Old 05-13-2022, 12:53 PM   #24
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For 10 acres, I would contact a local crop duster (aerial applicator) and find out how much it would cost to spray the 10 acres.
10 acres isn't even big enough for most custom ground applicators to come out. It sure won't be big enough for an airplane.
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Old 05-13-2022, 01:36 PM   #25
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Triclopyr for basal spraying and Sendero or Tordon 22k for foliar. Tordon kills cactus too so that's a bonus.
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Old 05-13-2022, 01:45 PM   #26
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Sendero works great. Spray when leaves are dark green. Much easier on pumps than a diesel mix.
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Old 05-13-2022, 01:52 PM   #27
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Remedy/diesel mix. Spray trunk about 8” up from ground until it runs to the soil.
Soon after the trees put on foliage.

I've killed 1,000s of them.


Oh and, watch for snakes
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Old 05-13-2022, 05:35 PM   #28
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How long after you spray will it is be dead, where you can shred then down.
These are mostly small new growth mesquite in a coastal field.
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Old 05-13-2022, 08:54 PM   #29
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We have used Remedy and Sendero both with success
Both, combined
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Old 05-13-2022, 08:57 PM   #30
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If you spray remedy/diesel on the leaves they will defoliate and live. Spray the trunk only.
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Old 05-14-2022, 01:30 AM   #31
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How long after you spray will it is be dead, where you can shred then down.
These are mostly small new growth mesquite in a coastal field.
For small stuff, maybe rent a skid steer and grub em out.
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Old 05-14-2022, 06:54 AM   #32
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How long after you spray will it is be dead, where you can shred then down.
These are mostly small new growth mesquite in a coastal field.
I would wait as long as you can. Give the herbicide time to get all the way into the roots. 2-3 weeks minimum.
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Old 05-14-2022, 11:13 AM   #33
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10 acres isn't even big enough for most custom ground applicators to come out. It sure won't be big enough for an airplane.
We've started an application business with an agricultural drone, if he were closer to us we could get it done.

Sendero is good for mesquite, you can also add some Tordon to it

There is a new product out called Invora that many in our area are going to with really good results

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Old 05-14-2022, 01:00 PM   #34
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I would wait as long as you can. Give the herbicide time to get all the way into the roots. 2-3 weeks minimum.
If you’ll wait 1-2 YEARS, the wood rots to the point that you can push the 4” and smaller ones over.

Waiting 2-3 weeks isn’t even enough time to get a good kill. You’ll see leaves yellowing at 7-10 days (with basal bark Remedy). You cut them down that soon, and you’ll have angry “bushes”, next year.

Some folks mentioned Tordon. I haven’t heard of mixing it with Remedy (or mixing with Sendero, unless you’re targeting cedar or prickly pear in the same application). While it (Tordon)will work as a cut stump treatment on most trees, it’s about worthless as a foliar spray on mesquite. Tordon works GREAT on cedar and prickly pear. There’s a reason why folks have to do separate applications for mesquite and prickly pear/cedar. If Tordon killed it ALL, ranchers wouldn’t have to waste their money targeting these species SEPARATELY. Tordon is also RESTRICTED (everthing but cut stump Tordon RTU), so you can’t buy it unless you have an applicators license.


Buy this:
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...ABEgKhU_D_BwE#

Get you a 5500-x1 tip for the wand, and attach the wand to the cheapest 1 gallon sprayer you can find (diesel will destroy the sprayer in 6-12 months).

Buy this:

https://chemicalwarehouse.com/produc...iABEgKVVPD_BwE

(Free shipping and no tax)

And mix it 15-25% with diesel.

This will work.

Sendero is near $200 a gallon, now, and you’ll get covered in it trying to do a foliar spray. As I mentioned, it is very time-sensitive, as well.

A few days wandering around in 10 acres, and you’ll have it dead with the basal bark, and it’ll cost you about $250 for all the supplies I mentioned (including diesel).

Again, Tordon alone won’t kill it. Glyphosphate won’t kill it. 2,4-D won’t kill it.

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