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Old 11-12-2019, 09:23 PM   #1
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I was getting my deer scored tonight and a game warden told me I need to have the paper on page 100 from the outdoor annual filled out. It is a page saying I am giving my deer away to another person. He said fill out that I am giving my deer away to myself..... The tag is with the meat but I need a piece of paper to take with the head???? Weird giving it to myself. Nice guy and was just educating people but I’m a little confused.


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Old 11-12-2019, 09:28 PM   #2
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Yes this is another dumb law but it is real. We deal with it every year with our Purple Heart soldiers that shoot good deer they are getting mounted. They take the tag with them with the meat and they have to fill out one of those logs for us to be able to transfer the head to the taxi. Basically anytime the meat and head are separated.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:28 PM   #3
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Sounds like poo to me, you weren't giving away the carcass (meat)? Tag stays with the meat unless I've misunderstood.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:29 PM   #4
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Normally taxidermist will give a paper for you to take with you to the processor. This has been my experience anyways.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:30 PM   #5
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Im boiling out the head myself??? Or what if I just cut the horns off?
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:31 PM   #6
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I know the processor gives a document to take to taxidermy

It’s all a bunch of $&@% anyway. Every other state I’ve been too has a better system
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:31 PM   #7
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When we dropped my buck off at processor he cut the tag in half and left one half on the antler and took the other. He said it would work for the taxi and that a game warden would honor that. Took the deer to taxi with the 1/2 tag and had no problems, just wrote down my license number on a wildlife resource document and was good to go.


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Old 11-12-2019, 09:40 PM   #8
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When we dropped my buck off at processor he cut the tag in half and left one half on the antler and took the other. He said it would work for the taxi and that a game warden would honor that. Took the deer to taxi with the 1/2 tag and had no problems, just wrote down my license number on a wildlife resource document and was good to go.


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Thats interesting considering your tag # is only on half the tag, I always just though the taxi needed he wildlife resource doc w/ the antlers or if someone else was dropping the meat off at the processor they need one as well for the transport. I mean technically if this is the case I guess I would need to fill one of these WRD out for each of my deer mounts if moving them to a new house?!
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:41 PM   #9
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Thats interesting considering your tag # is only on half the tag, I always just though the taxi needed he wildlife resource doc w/ the antlers or if someone else was dropping the meat off at the processor they need one as well for the transport. I mean technically if this is the case I guess I would need to fill one of these WRD out for each of my deer mounts if moving them to a new house?!


That’s what I thought. Who knows...


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Old 11-12-2019, 09:45 PM   #10
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What gets me you can debone a deer and take the whole dang thing to a processor and nothing is needed. No tag or anything. Crazy laws we have.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:48 PM   #11
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I would call the local warden and see if he can give you a better explanation and answer you questions on different scenarios. As we all know, they dont have much of a tolerance and always say its our responsibility to know the law.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:53 PM   #12
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we should get 2 tags when we buy a license. One for the meat and one for the head so there is no confusion.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:56 PM   #13
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So if the tag stays with the meat until the meat gets to the final destination (processor or home if processed yourself) and the head is proof of sex, then if the meat is dropped off first why is a resource document needed?
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:04 PM   #14
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Normally taxidermist will give a paper for you to take with you to the processor. This has been my experience anyways.
Exactly
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:13 PM   #15
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Tpwd laws are so confusing. I'm not sure if they understand them
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:15 PM   #16
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TPWD like to keep their pencils sharp
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:22 PM   #17
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Tpwd laws are so confusing. I'm not sure if they understand them


They struggle with it for sure. Some of the GW’s seem as backwoods as granny’s second cousin’s uncle’s brother in law.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:23 PM   #18
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If you shoot a deer in another state that doesn’t require a tag then is there a form one must complete or what is the proper protocol there?
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:46 PM   #19
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I am so annoyed by this. I called a game warden and asked about shooting a doe during archery season his response was I don't think you can. He called me later and told me I could and what page it was on in the outdoor annual. I asked him if y'all can't read Thai stuff how in the heck are we expected to? He asked what do you mean by that? I repeated it. Not sure if I ticked him off or not but come on. And that goofy chart in the OA only made it worse. Sorry my rant is over.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:51 PM   #20
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Sounds like poo to me, you weren't giving away the carcass (meat)? Tag stays with the meat unless I've misunderstood.
Maximum poo from that GW
Tag or MLD permits stays with the meat , transfer paper are for when you transfer possession of fish or game to a alternative person so says our local government employee
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:58 PM   #21
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we should get 2 tags when we buy a license. One for the meat and one for the head so there is no confusion.
that makes way too much sense.
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Old 11-12-2019, 11:00 PM   #22
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What gets me you can debone a deer and take the whole dang thing to a processor and nothing is needed. No tag or anything. Crazy laws we have.
The processor I go to requires a tag no matter what.
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Old 11-12-2019, 11:07 PM   #23
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we should get 2 tags when we buy a license. One for the meat and one for the head so there is no confusion.
In Alaska hunters get a metal / plastic band for the antlers and a wrd goes with the meat same in Arizona
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Old 11-12-2019, 11:14 PM   #24
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What gets me you can debone a deer and take the whole dang thing to a processor and nothing is needed. No tag or anything. Crazy laws we have.
It is illegal to debone deer until it reaches it final destination, either home or the processor. From the regulations:

"Processing in Camp

A deer and pronghorn may be skinned and quartered (two forequarters, two hindquarters, and two backstraps) for transport, provided the quartered deer or pronghorn is tagged and proof of sex accompanies the deer or pronghorn. (See Cold Storage or Processing Facility for exceptions). The four quarters and two backstraps are the only parts of a deer required by law to be kept in edible condition.

Tagging and proof-of-sex requirements continue to apply until the wildlife resource reaches a final destination AND is quartered. Deer or pronghorn may only be processed beyond quarters at a location that qualifies as a final destination.

While in camp you may remove and prepare a part of a wildlife resource if the removal and preparation occur immediately before the part is cooked or consumed; however, all tagging and proof of sex regulations apply to remaining parts until the parts reach a final destination."
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Old 11-13-2019, 12:16 AM   #25
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you an still debone the deer. just don't cut them up any further. leave the quarters be.
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Old 11-13-2019, 12:47 AM   #26
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you an still debone the deer. just don't cut them up any further. leave the quarters be.
Hmmm, I didn't realize that. Thanks for the info.
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Old 11-13-2019, 02:40 AM   #27
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It's so if you get stopped with the deer head you have documentation linking it to the tag (which is with the meat). Otherwise you will have to convince them that the deer was tagged. Same reason the processor and taxidermist need documentation that the deer you provided them was taken legally. They are taking possession and need the documentation on hand. Otherwise they are on the hook if they get inspected.
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Old 11-13-2019, 06:15 AM   #28
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Process the deer and put it in the freezer prior to taking the head to the taxidermist.
Personally, I would like to see the license printed as a separate document with no log on the back. Tags would also be printed separately, in a size large enough that cold hands can work with and write on them. Buck tags could have a tear off section to send with the head. The current license is a mess. The paper is hard to write on with a ball point pen and gel pens smear easily. Sorry for the rant. I get irritated every time that I have to tag a deer with these sorry little excuses for a tag.
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Old 11-13-2019, 06:39 AM   #29
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"you an still debone the deer. just don't cut them up any further. leave the quarters be". My ol man got popped for this 25y.o. in golthwaite...he still madder than a captured jap.

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Old 11-13-2019, 06:55 AM   #30
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Sounds like another regulation put in effect to make it easier to accidentally mess up and get a ticket.
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:13 AM   #31
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Process the deer and put it in the freezer prior to taking the head to the taxidermist.
in this case, do you need any paperwork to go with the head?
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:15 AM   #32
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Im boiling out the head myself??? Or what if I just cut the horns off?
We were there last night also with our boiled heads. I questioned the reasoning for the document since the heads and meat have been finalized and processed. He said that if they are still “fresh” then you need the document. He could have given a lot of tickets if so but he was really just educating everyone last night. It may not be the same next week though. He was a very nice guy. A change to the license would solve a lot of issues.
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:18 AM   #33
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What gets me you can debone a deer and take the whole dang thing to a processor and nothing is needed. No tag or anything. Crazy laws we have.
Right!


So my deer is cubed and in freezer bags and packed in the deep freeze. Horns are at the taxi with a tag. Some time after deer season I'll prolly have 3-4 cubed deer to thaw out and take to a buddies to make sausage. I wont have any tags and it will be after deer season.

Now what?
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:20 AM   #34
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So my deer is cubed and in freezer bags and packed in the deep freeze. Horns are at the taxi with a tag. Some time after deer season I'll prolly have 3-4 cubed deer to thaw out and take to a buddies to make sausage. I wont have any tags and it will be after deer season.



Now what?


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Old 11-13-2019, 07:21 AM   #35
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if u get stopped just act like u dont speak english gw will give u a warning seen it happen lots of time on tv show everyone else gets tickets
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:30 AM   #36
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:34 AM   #37
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My head is about to explode!!
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:34 AM   #38
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Right!


So my deer is cubed and in freezer bags and packed in the deep freeze. Horns are at the taxi with a tag. Some time after deer season I'll prolly have 3-4 cubed deer to thaw out and take to a buddies to make sausage. I wont have any tags and it will be after deer season.

Now what?
Anything beyond quartered and no tag is needed. I just shot a 8pt last week and wanted burger and sausage made. I just deboned the whole deer while he was hanging. Took the whole thing to the processor. No tag or info of any kind was needed. Just my name and phone number for pickup.
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:36 AM   #39
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I shoot a deer at lease, debone it and take it to processor to make burgers out of. I debone to save money. This is illegal?
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:36 AM   #40
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What did it score?
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:36 AM   #41
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:37 AM   #42
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Sharkhunter, posted at the same time. But GW did not check you?
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:50 AM   #43
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It's not as difficult as some of y'all make it. I do agree the process could be simplified though. The tag always stays with the meat until it reaches its final destination. If the head and meat are separated just fill out a wildlife resource document. You don't even have to use the one in the Outdoor Annual. You can write it on a piece of paper with the required info.
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:52 AM   #44
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So my deer is cubed and in freezer bags and packed in the deep freeze. Horns are at the taxi with a tag. Some time after deer season I'll prolly have 3-4 cubed deer to thaw out and take to a buddies to make sausage. I wont have any tags and it will be after deer season.

Now what?


Once you cubed it up and Put it in your freezer, that is considered it's final destination. You're good to make whatever you want later.
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Old 11-13-2019, 08:00 AM   #45
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Old 11-13-2019, 08:04 AM   #46
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I shoot a deer at lease, debone it and take it to processor to make burgers out of. I debone to save money. This is illegal?
It's illegal to debone at the hunting lease. Once at your final destination you can process and just deboning is processing. You can then carry the meat to a processor and the state will not require a tag with the meat but some processor will require it.
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Old 11-13-2019, 08:12 AM   #47
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I shoot a deer at lease, debone it and take it to processor to make burgers out of. I debone to save money. This is illegal?


If your lease is not your house, then yes, it is illegal to debone there!!!!

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Old 11-13-2019, 09:27 AM   #48
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Old 11-13-2019, 09:36 AM   #49
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Old 11-13-2019, 10:24 AM   #50
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What to do after the kill
https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/o...killing-a-deer

https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/o...anentResidence

Final destination
The permanent residence of the hunter; the permanent residence of any other person receiving the animal/bird carcass part of an animal/bird carcass; or a cold storage or processing facility.

Permanent residence
One’s principal or ordinary home or dwelling place. This does not include one’s temporary abode or dwelling such as a hunting/fishing club, or any club house, cabin, tent, car, truck, or trailer house used as a hunting/fishing club, or any hotel, motel, or rooming house used during a hunting, fishing, pleasure, or business trip.

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