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Old 10-28-2019, 03:11 PM   #1
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If you had a $3000-3250 budget for complete setup rifle, scope, rings, supressor for hunting situations elk and muleys and all the Tx critters from 0-500 how would you spend it and on what?

Got caliber selection down to .270 and 7mm mag but might could be persuaded to change it up some but wanting a long action or mag of some sort. Wanting it relatively light and threaded. Adjustable cheek piece a must.

I have scope narrowed down to the vortex pst gen 2 3-15x44 ffp in moa, but rifle and supressor is what is getting me.

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Old 10-28-2019, 03:24 PM   #2
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Alamo precision has a good deal going on there Maverick line. Prices start at $2395. I used there APR gen 2 action on my wife's 6.5 creedmoor, shoots great. A 7mm mag would be a good choice, buy an aftermarket cheek riser and your done.
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Old 10-28-2019, 03:38 PM   #3
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I'll hit the suppressor part. I have 3 and have access to another 5. All are different brands and different materials. That said, the main difference between them are going to be weight, length/width, and material made out of. They are all so close and by ear can hardly tell a difference. I would go to a shop and hold and pick up some and see which ones you like. I would say you would have $1000 or close to it on a suppressor with tax stamp. If you are going to be walking I would look at lighter suppressor as you know weight add's up quick.
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APR Maverick. I’d split the difference of those two cartridges and go .280 AI.
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So 3200$ for all three?

Is your price including having a trust made or do you already have that? If not Im seeing a budget of about 1200$ for the rifle after the other 2 which takes APR out of the question.

Maybe A Christensen Arms Mesa?

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Old 10-28-2019, 04:03 PM   #6
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You can find 50% off Thunderbeast certificates pretty easy right now. That will get you an Ultra 7 for around the $800 mark including buying the 1/2off cert.
I like the 300prc for elk.
As far as the rifle build, you can’t go wrong with Alamo.
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Old 10-28-2019, 04:06 PM   #7
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So 3200$ for all three?

Is your price including having a trust made or do you already have that?
Pretty much yes. And I could probably get up to around 4k relatively easily if need be to get a better rifle.

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Old 10-28-2019, 04:10 PM   #8
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You can find 50% off Thunderbeast certificates pretty easy right now.
Would you school me on this please? Where do you find these?
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Old 10-28-2019, 04:16 PM   #9
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Just curious, but why spend $$$ on such a custom setup and get a off the shelf caliber?
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Pretty much yes. And I could probably get up to around 4k relatively easily if need be to get a better rifle.

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Gotcha. I was editing the post when you quoted me.

If you can bump up some more like you said then maybe snag one of the Seekins Havoks if they are in a cal you approve of.


Suppressor wise I'd look at a Nomad, Sandman, Thunderbeast, or Omega.
All those after trust and stamp its around 1300ishh

Believe your scope is 700 or so. Good rings will be 100-150$.

So about 1100$ or 1900$ for the gun. APR will be 2500$ before you can mess with them

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Just curious, but why spend $$$ on such a custom setup and get a off the shelf caliber?
Because if I forget my ammo at the house while headed north for elk muleys moose etc I can still find ammo for it. This would be my primary critter killer is what I am going for.

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So for scope I am wanting and rings etc looking at around $750.

That leaves $2500-3000 for rifle and suppressor or if I wait a year can just get the rifle only this year and maybe dabble into some custom builds. But is that necessary for a 0-500 yard critter killer? And on range days messing around out to 1000?

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Old 10-28-2019, 04:39 PM   #13
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Savage HS Precision in 300WM $1050 get a bedding job you’ll be around $1250 rings and scope and picatinny rail around $1000 and $1000 on a suppressor. Don’t cheap out on glass.
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Old 10-28-2019, 04:40 PM   #14
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Skip the suppressor and put that money into the rifle
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Old 10-28-2019, 04:49 PM   #15
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My buddy just bought a Barrett and he absolutely loves it. He has it topped with a Nightforce and that thing is super light.
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Get an APR then buy a Swarovski Z3 with BRH reticle and Warne rings. I vote 270
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Old 10-28-2019, 05:11 PM   #17
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Snipershide.com
https://forum.snipershide.com/thread...-arms.6966259/
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Old 10-28-2019, 05:18 PM   #18
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For the suppressor, I would recommend the Q Thunder Chicken. It is super quiet and light. I've shot it next to my brothers .308 w/ a Sig can and it has my .300wm almost as quiet as his .308 shooting factory ammo. POI shift is also minimal. That will run you at least $1150.

For the rifle, based off of your budget, I would take a look at the Browning X-bolt Hell's Canyon line. I have one in 300wm. It was a little finicky with ammo at first, but I have a reload that is holding it right at an MOA. I believe it is available in both of the calibers that you are looking at. I would take the 7mag over the .270
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Old 10-28-2019, 07:32 PM   #19
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How about a Bergara Ridge in 270? Its a threaded barrel sub MOA rifle.

Rifle $700
Base $80 (Seekins Precision)
Rings $50-120
Scope $300 minimum.

This is what I would do if I was looking at this set up


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My buddy just bought a Barrett and he absolutely loves it. He has it topped with a Nightforce and that thing is super light.
Did you see the ops budget?.......lol
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Did you see the ops budget?.......lol


LOL.....not a 50cal. Barrett is making more rifles now. My buddies is a 6.5cm.


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$1000 for a suppressor...I would recommend a Omega.
$1000 for a decent scope.
Leaves you $1000 to $1500 for a rifle....

If your going with 7mm mag or 280ai which are wonderful calibers your going to need a 24” barrel to get the most out of that caliber....add a 6” to 8” can on there and it’s going to be crazy long to try to hunt with. Personally I would forget the suppressor and put that money towards the rifle. Or build a 7-08 or 308 at 20” which is all the barrel you need for those calibers and then use your suppressor.
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APR Maverick. Id split the difference of those two cartridges and go .280 AI.


Solid suggestion right here. Not belt on the case to worry about if you reload. Great overall round.


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$1000 for a suppressor...I would recommend a Omega.
$1000 for a decent scope.
Leaves you $1000 to $1500 for a rifle....

If your going with 7mm mag or 280ai which are wonderful calibers your going to need a 24 barrel to get the most out of that caliber....add a 6 to 8 can on there and its going to be crazy long to try to hunt with. Personally I would forget the suppressor and put that money towards the rifle. Or build a 7-08 or 308 at 20 which is all the barrel you need for those calibers and then use your suppressor.

This is good advice and what I would also recommend. I bought a Tikka CTR 308 for the rifle part which is extremely accurate and suppressor ready. Great setup. Of course, now I have changed my mind and am going to sell the Tikka and go full blown custom. Its only money.🙄
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My buddy just bought a Barrett and he absolutely loves it. He has it topped with a Nightforce and that thing is super light.


Which one?


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So much for being excited about my $349 30-06 i was thinking about getting at cabelas...AHAHAHA good on ya OP!!
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Just bought that scope, great choice I love mine. For the suppressor I went with the Omega because of length and all around versatility. With your budget I would look at a Browning X Bolt. I also have a Weatherby Vangaurd that gets the call most of the time for Elk. If you go to $4K you might consider a Christenson Ridgeline. Of the Calibers you listed Id go with the 7 mag for sure. 270s kill Elk but not near as well as a 7 mag especially at 500 yards.


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Also my opinion is for an Elk gun I stay away from Customs. My reason is at 500 yards my $500 gun is just as effective and I dont have to hold back tears if I scrape it up busting through the brush.


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Which one?


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He said it was a Barrett Fieldcraft. I just looked it up and its more than I thought it was. May still fit his budget though.




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Bergara HMR in whatever caliber you want. These retail at 1100 but if you find a dealer willling to negotiate I paid 900 out the door for mine and have shot it out to 1100 yards.

Vortext scope 1300

Rings and rail 300

I missed budget by couple hundred but thats my set up and I like it.

Atlast bipod 300

Half nelson suppressor made by Q 750

I missed budget by couple hundred but thats my set up and I like it. Could always leave off the bipod and add it later.
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This is good advice and what I would also recommend. I bought a Tikka CTR 308 for the rifle part which is extremely accurate and suppressor ready. Great setup. Of course, now I have changed my mind and am going to sell the Tikka and go full blown custom. Its only money.🙄
Hmmmm, how much that tikka going to be?
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As a guy that actually probably does have too many rifles, (I know, but believe me it's possible), many of which would do everything you ask and more, here is what I would do in your case...

Forget the suppressor for now. They are nice to have, but won't contribute near as much for the dollar as will a good quality rifle and glass. So, save that expenditure for later. Just get a threaded barrel on your rifle for now.

I won't tell you which brands to go with as that has to be a personal choice, but you can't beat APR's TBH special builds, and it won't be too long before they pop out another deal that is way too good to pass up. Their rifles are top notch.

As for glass, you can pick up a slightly used Leupold VX5 or VX6, Bushnell LRHS, Vortex or whatever at a great deal, or on a closeout, etc. There are deals available if you take the time to search. They all come with a unconditional lifetime warranty, so you can't lose.

I and many others have taken just about everything big enough to die with a 7mm Rem Mag, so don't hesitate to choose that cartridge. The bullet and ammo selection out there is off the charts. The performance is plenty to do what you want with ease. Are there bigger and better options? I like the 28 Nosler and a 300RUM a lot, and they will go faster and farther and hit with more authority, but for what you want the RemMag is beastly enough.

I hope this helps. Everybody has an opinion, and they should ideally come backed by experience. Mine does as does many of these fellas here. You will get many different choices, which will most all work very well for you if applied properly. In the end the choice is yours to make, and I hope you get something that makes you happy.
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He said it was a Barrett Fieldcraft. I just looked it up and its more than I thought it was. May still fit his budget though.

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Nice. I have an MRAD and love it. Its just heavy. I have heard nothing but great things about the fieldcrafts.



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Nice. I have an MRAD and love it. Its just heavy. I have heard nothing but great things about the fieldcrafts.



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I couldnt believe how light it was. Its a really nice rifle.


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Any $1000 suppressor will be good but tax and stamp you are looking at $1250. Im running a Q trash panda and brother runs the TB Ultra 9. I think they are equivalent for most part and like the 2 shorter. Add you scope and your 2K in, so that leaves you with a Tikka CTR as an option.


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1600-1600 split. Some real solid glass can be had for 1600 and, yes, you can build a custom rifle for 1600. Just gotta pick and choose your options.
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Bergara HMR. Already threaded, very nice trigger and adjustable cheek piece. Both mine and my buddies shot really good. If you shop around you can find them for a little over $800
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Bergara HMR. Already threaded, very nice trigger and adjustable cheek piece. Both mine and my buddies shot really good. If you shop around you can find them for a little over $800


For pure hunting I would go with the ridge over the HMR. I have both, and I like my ridge for hunting a lot more than than the HMR


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Tikka T3, 270WSM, Talley Rings/bases, a Swarovski Z5, and a Silencerco Harvester.
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Part of me is impatient. The other half would be wanting to wait cash in hand for someone to have to sell their ****** APR build from this year.
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Part of me is impatient. The other half would be wanting to wait cash in hand for someone to have to sell their ****** APR build from this year.


Its gonna happen as it has every year a couple get sold.

Im a little nervous I wont be able to participate in the build if they do one next year.


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Few thoughts..

Why do you want a suppressor? Are you worried about noise or recoil? If you are worried about recoil brakes make a huge difference and in some cases are better than cans. Noise I am less concerned about because your ammo is super sonic and will still be loud.

Is this an elk gun that you use for back up or a Texas gun that you use for elk? I think that will drive some design parameters.

For 500 yards and in you don’t need a custom gun. Anything off the shelf with tuned ammo should produce good results.

If it were me and I was doing this, I would spend more on glass to get higher optical quality. The difference is that I can get more hunting time. My last elk, using high quality binos, I saw some cows almost 1 hour before sunrise. I watched the cows and waited for the bull. I saw the bull 40 mins before sunrise and counted antler points with my scope. The pst2 is good, but not that good. I think the pst 2 3-15 is an awesome scope. In daylight I put it up against a lot, but during twilight hours it struggles.

I would go 1500 for a used atacr or mark 5
I would do 500-700 for a off the shelf gun
I would buy a good quality stock/chassis (as most production stocks are bad, unless it’s an upgrade). If you are planning on traveling I would do a folding stock.

7mm is better than 270 imo. Just better bullets
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Savage axis combo $300 it I'll kill whatever you want then put $2900 in your pocket
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Seekins Havak and a Leupold MK5 3.6-18, or a Barrett Fieldcraft topped with a VX6 3-18 if you’re wanting even lighter. Skip the suppressor for now, and get more rifle and glass.
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So ended up selling my 300wsm and buying a rem 700 300 win mag as a donor. Have a proof carbon fiber barrel in .284 with a 1-8 twist going to have it chambered in 7mm mag, McMillan game hunter stock that is the edge flavor, and vortex pst gen 2 ffp 3-15x44 on order. Now looking at getting new bottom metal to get rid of the plastic and new trigger. Will send it to WTO to assemble once they are ready for it and everything arrives. Decided to ditch the supressor for now. Will just wait a year or so saving more cash and buy it then and just have a really nice rifle instead.

So with what I have spent I am at $1250-1500 left in the budget to get rings, base, bottom metal and trigger plus assembly. I think assembly bedding and truing of the action will run around 1200 according to WTO. So have to get the above for around $300 if possible. What would y'all get on that budget and is it possible?

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Uh no, not going to buy a Ford pinto on a Corvette budget lol.

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Old 10-30-2019, 01:58 PM   #48
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Savage axis combo $300 it I'll kill whatever you want then put $2900 in your pocket
You can kill a deer with a rock... Doesn't mean there's not a better tool for the job.

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Old 10-30-2019, 07:33 PM   #49
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This is real simple. Buy a Winchester 70 Extreme Weather, Talley Rings, Leupold Scope, nice sling, a bottle of Whistle Pig whiskey, and...

Take your ole lady on vacation.

Happy Hunting for any satisfaction that can beat that at any price.
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Old 10-30-2019, 07:54 PM   #50
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Weatherby Backcountry TI in 280AI (not sure what the actual retail will be on it)

VX5 3-15x44 or a Swaro VX3 4-12x50

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