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Old 09-28-2022, 10:44 AM   #1
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Default New Remington offering.

Anyone see the new rifle Remington is bringing out soon?

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Very interesting. Glad to see them bring a higher quality offering to the table and leave the economy gun game alone.

Depending on price point and calibers offered Iíd sure like to get my hands on one.
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Pretty nice, looks like its threaded too.

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I'm interested what price point they will be offering this at. I personally feel Remington has been overpriced for a while now compared to other manufacturers firearms with similar features.
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Looks like the 788 and 700 had a kid.
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Now we will have to play the same games as with Savage when we buy scope bases or after market parts for Remington, doesn’t look like it does anything for me that my old Remington doesn’t do but I never had the issues everyone on line talks about.
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That looks nice but it won't amount to anything if it's crap like everything they produce over the last 25 years. Time will tell though. Hopefully they're back in the game.

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I'm glad to see they're stepping out of their 30 year old box and trying to be competitive with a feature rich rifle.

Hopefully the quality is up there with others in the factory offering and price is competitive. They have a huge hurdle to overcome with the likes of Bergara, Tikka, Savage and Browning. Not to mention the simi-customs like Fierce and Seekins at the $2k price point.
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I'm glad to see they're stepping out of their 30 year old box and trying to be competitive with a feature rich rifle.

Hopefully the quality is up there with others in the factory offering and price is competitive. They have a huge hurdle to overcome with the likes of Bergara, Tikka, Savage and Browning. Not to mention the simi-customs like Fierce and Seekins at the $2k price point.
The question is "who is they?" Remington itself is gone. It was sold piecemeal, and I don't recall who bought the gun portion of the business.
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Old 09-28-2022, 11:23 AM   #9
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Default New Remington offering.

It seems like they finally listened to a lot of the complaints from the past. AG Stock, a decent Timney trigger, side bolt release, faster twists, better throat lengths, prefit compatibility, and just better QC will be a huge upgrade from the junk rifles Remington has been putting out in the last 10-15 years. Iím looking forward to handling one and think it will do pretty good if they can get MSRP under $1500 and keep their QC in check.


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Old 09-28-2022, 11:29 AM   #10
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It will have to gain a reputation to shoot out of the box like a tikka to gain any traction like the 700 of old.
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Kinda reminds me of what they did with the 870 "fieldmaster." Take an 870 express, put a slightly better finish , throw some low grade walnut on it, and do a tiny bit of smoothing on the action. Voila, a new gun that is better than the last 10 years, but still junk compared to the original. Hopefully they'll make a decent rifle with some of the "custom" features that are in right now, but I don't trust Remington not to throw a stock and trigger on a econo gun and call it good.
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Old 09-28-2022, 03:43 PM   #13
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It will be interesting to see what comes of it. With all the issues Remington had with QC etc.. I bet everyone who tests them out and gets their hands on them first to review them will do their best to gut it. I hope it regains the respect that was lost.
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Old 09-28-2022, 04:33 PM   #14
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It will be interesting to see what comes of it. With all the issues Remington had with QC etc.. I bet everyone who tests them out and gets their hands on them first to review them will do their best to gut it. I hope it regains the respect that was lost.
Iím optimistic for it. Hope to see the big green regain a little respect.
Time will tell though
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Old 09-28-2022, 05:22 PM   #15
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Hopefully the quality is up there with others in the factory offering and price is competitive. They have a huge hurdle to overcome with the likes of Bergara, Tikka, Savage and Browning. Not to mention the simi-customs like Fierce and Seekins at the $2k price point.

They have a lot of ground to make up and stiff competition as you mentioned. I'm afraid they aren't going to make the price point though.

As far as the gun I like the extended magazine and faster twist but the straight trigger doesn't belong on a precision rifle.
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I’m not sure what you guys that aren’t impressed with it are thinking.

90% of rifles folks build have every one of those features.

Great stock maker. Decent trigger. Quality DBM and a long OAL capability. The easiest scope ring system to mount a scope on. Fluting. Threading. One piece(much stronger) bolt body with interchangeable knobs. Fluted bolt. Cerakote. Side bolt release.

They checked every box you can except for the grip angle.

If it shoots it’ll be a home run for them.
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Bergara clone?
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Old 09-28-2022, 07:31 PM   #18
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Iím not sure what you guys that arenít impressed with it are thinking.

90% of rifles folks build have every one of those features.

Great stock maker. Decent trigger. Quality DBM and a long OAL capability. The easiest scope ring system to mount a scope on. Fluting. Threading. One piece(much stronger) bolt body with interchangeable knobs. Fluted bolt. Cerakote. Side bolt release.

They checked every box you can except for the grip angle.

If it shoots itíll be a home run for them.
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There are some interesting changes there. I would hope they offer many of those features with other 700 models. Not bad, not bad. I am curious about the price?
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Looks like a better rifle than they've put out in a long time... BUT, c'mon man (in my best molester in chief voice) hammer forged barrels? Yeah, fine they're mass producing but at least go with some decent button rifled barrels if you're gonna market this thing with all the bells and whistles of some pseudo-custom stuff.
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I for one am glad to see them finally listen to the market. I hope they come back in strong fashion.

There is a reason that they are the most copied pattern on the market for custom actions and yuuuuuggggeee aftermarket support.


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Pretty nice, looks like its threaded too.

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It's the offspring of the Rem 700 that had sEx with a Browning X-bolt offspring that had SeX with a Savage that was bred to a Bergara. It's the trigger that worries me.
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Pure ugliness... Cheap looking black, plastic, junk like that dam sure isn't what made Remington famous and once so popular.. The pretty wood and deep, high luster, bluing on a BDL and an 1100 did that.. And the 700's out of the box accuracy..
Now just more ugly black and cheap molded plastic.. SMDH..

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Pure ugliness... Cheap looking black, plastic, junk like that dam sure isn't what made Remington famous and once so popular.. The pretty wood and deep, high luster, bluing on a BDL and an 1100 did that.. And the 700's out of the box accuracy..
Now just more ugly black and cheap molded plastic.. SMDH..
You need to do some research on AG Composites. They ainít cheap plastic. That was an excellent move on Remingtons part. While I too enjoy pretty wood stocks, thatís not what moves these days.
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You need to do some research on AG Composites. They ainít cheap plastic. That was an excellent move on Remingtons part. While I too enjoy pretty wood stocks, thatís not what moves these days.
If the pretty wood still existed they would out sell black plastic guns 5 to 1 but pretty wood is very expensive and black plastic or composite is much cheaper, fast and easy.. That is the real reason gun manufacturers went with it.. It was soley based on cost savings and it shows..
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Pure ugliness... Cheap looking black, plastic, junk like that dam sure isn't what made Remington famous and once so popular.. The pretty wood and deep, high luster, bluing on a BDL and an 1100 did that.. And the 700's out of the box accuracy..
Now just more ugly black and cheap molded plastic.. SMDH..

First of all, AG Composite stocks are not cheap, nor are they made of plastic. They are carbon fiber and used on tons of custom rifles. No comparison to some of the Tupperware stocks you see on lots of budget rifles.

I love a nice wood/blued rifle as well, but this isnít 1970. Iíd venture to say composite stocked rifles out sell wood at least 10:1. I imagine they will eventually come out with a wood model, but it would be stupid for them to not start of with a quality composite option.


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You need to do some research on AG Composites. They ainít cheap plastic. That was an excellent move on Remingtons part. While I too enjoy pretty wood stocks, thatís not what moves these days.

You beat me to it. Lol


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Composites were developed for accuracy & hunting...they do not absorb moisture like a traditional wooden stock.

It would be cheaper to slap on a plain no-grained woody.
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Looks to be an awesome gun, can’t wait to get my hands on one. The last Remington I bought was an AWR. To me it was a nice rifle but I moved away from it due to accuracy issues. Hopefully this new one will shoot like my old sendero’s.
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I hope this does well.

Boutique rifle makers sure put out good products but it's comforting knowing we still have huge manufacturers putting out guns for the regular guys.
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Iím not sure what you guys that arenít impressed with it are thinking.

90% of rifles folks build have every one of those features.

Great stock maker. Decent trigger. Quality DBM and a long OAL capability. The easiest scope ring system to mount a scope on. Fluting. Threading. One piece(much stronger) bolt body with interchangeable knobs. Fluted bolt. Cerakote. Side bolt release.

They checked every box you can except for the grip angle.

If it shoots itíll be a home run for them.
if that rifle is priced at $2299 , would you still buy it ?

what is the price break point before you invest in one ?

Just asking since I respect your opinion and your money

personally, I built custom rifles just like that 20+ years ago. I have zero interest in the new Remington since what I already own trumps that rifle all day long.

IMO, the new owners of Rem are "stuck like chuck". Remington loyalists' want the old school quality (70's and 80') with an affordable price in the $750-$950 range. Their newest creation, ALPHA 1, is a wanna-be custom rifle yet still has the Remington name but will come with a hefty price tag.

If they can sell that rifle for $1500 it's a good buy for the right person. If the price is $1700+ , you're still buying a factory production rifle as there are far better options available.
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They’ll make up for quality and only offer in a 6.5 needmore so everyone can think they can do sniper stuff at sniper ranges except everything will run off.
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if that rifle is priced at $2299 , would you still buy it ?

what is the price break point before you invest in one ?

Just asking since I respect your opinion and your money

personally, I built custom rifles just like that 20+ years ago. I have zero interest in the new Remington since what I already own trumps that rifle all day long.

IMO, the new owners of Rem are "stuck like chuck". Remington loyalists' want the old school quality (70's and 80') with an affordable price in the $750-$950 range. Their newest creation, ALPHA 1, is a wanna-be custom rifle yet still has the Remington name but will come with a hefty price tag.

If they can sell that rifle for $1500 it's a good buy for the right person. If the price is $1700+ , you're still buying a factory production rifle as there are far better options available.
I see it coming in around $1500. Iíd buy a used one for a grand. But, like you, I piece together my own. And thanks to Johnny and thanks to me knowing how to source deals on parts, a full blown custom at 3-3.5k is easy easy to do. Cheaper at times with top shelf parts.

Blake what I see of the rifle world is like optics. People are fast to gain features and give up a touch of quality. You know that barrel isnít a stainless lilja. Seekins uses Rock Creek. Or did. But if built right I think itíll shoot.

Folks spend big bucks on Browningís and Bergara and Springfield and Seekins. Heck look at the new Weatherbys. And half of these donít have these features. Time will tell. I hated to see a legend go down how they did. I hope they come in swinging (they appear to be) and hit a home run. Competition drives innovation.
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Theyíll make up for quality and only offer in a 6.5 needmore so everyone can think they can do sniper stuff at sniper ranges except everything will run off.
Itís a conspiracy with deer dog owners! They are in on it! Lol
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If the pretty wood still existed they would out sell black plastic guns 5 to 1 but pretty wood is very expensive and black plastic or composite is much cheaper, fast and easy.. That is the real reason gun manufacturers went with it.. It was soley based on cost savings and it shows..
Weatherby and Cooper and Browning disagree. Pretty wood is still out there. Youíd be surprised how cheap some of that wood is. All 3 mentioned make and made gorgeous wood stocks. They arenít as strong. They arenít as tough. And both comes with accuracy loss. Like you, I truly love a very high figure wood stock. Think English double type. But I know what I use mine for. It wonít work.

Carbon and fiberglass stocks own the market. As does Cerakote and stainless. Pic rails over standard old school scope rings. Threaded barrels. Vertical grips. Fast twist rates. And cool paint.

Iím gonna step on some toes here but fine. Look how many folks line up for the APR deal and wait MONTHS. 7/8 months for a build with all these features. At a much higher price tag. Lots of builders can crank those out in 1-3 months. Now youíre getting one similar off the shelf? Yeah the barrel isnít as good. Bedding likely isnít the same. But for 95% of folks it fits the bill perfectly. Most folks donít use a rifle to even half of its capabilities. Me included these days.
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It will have to gain a reputation to shoot out of the box like a tikka to gain any traction like the 700 of old.
Agreed! I have several older 700's, a 721 and a 722 that I love. But, since buying a Tikka a couple of years ago, I have no need to look at Remington again.

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Looks like it might be worth checking out.
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Pure ugliness... Cheap looking black, plastic, junk like that dam sure isn't what made Remington famous and once so popular.. The pretty wood and deep, high luster, bluing on a BDL and an 1100 did that.. And the 700's out of the box accuracy..
Now just more ugly black and cheap molded plastic.. SMDH..

AG Composites stocks are far from cheap.


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If the pretty wood still existed they would out sell black plastic guns 5 to 1 but pretty wood is very expensive and black plastic or composite is much cheaper, fast and easy.. That is the real reason gun manufacturers went with it.. It was soley based on cost savings and it shows..

Lol, ok because wood never moves or warps in wet, cold, hot, etc conditions.

I like the looks of a wood stock as much as anybody but the composites are much more stable and impervious to varying conditions.

I took my pretty circa 1980 Remington 1100 coastal duck hunting. That was a dumb mistake. Guys shooting their parkerized and composite stocked shotguns tried to tell me. But I took all I had at the time. It **** near ruined that gun.


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Who is Remington these days? It’s nothing but a brand some are still loyal to. We’ll have to see if they make quality stuff.
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Agreed! I have several older 700's, a 721 and a 722 that I love. But, since buying a Tikka a couple of years ago, I have no need to look at Remington again.
IF they could deliver this Alpha with tikka accuracy in a $1200 price point it could likely put them back on the map.

$1500 plus & the old big green fans will keep searching for minty senderos / vssf's.
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IF they could deliver this Alpha with tikka accuracy in a $1200 price point it could likely put them back on the map.

$1500 plus & the old big green fans will keep searching for minty senderos / vssf's.

Thereís no way theyíll get it to around $1200. If it comes in under $1500, Iíll be somewhat surprised.


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I’m interested is calibers. And corrected twist rates.
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Old 09-30-2022, 12:37 AM   #47
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Theyíll make up for quality and only offer in a 6.5 needmore so everyone can think they can do sniper stuff at sniper ranges except everything will run off.
Uh Oh.. You had to say it....

Not a bad review by Ron.. It actually sounds like might be a decent rifle..

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