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Old 08-22-2018, 09:00 PM   #1
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Hi, hoping to get some help. Iíve been wanting to give trad archery for years and always wanted a Palmer bow. Just got one today, 60Ē 45# at 28Ē. I have a new string for it but was needing some help with brace height? Canít find anything online that shows the proper brace height.

Also, any suggestions on arrows, spine and tip weight?

My thoughts were gold tip traditional arrows and 125gr points, full length.
Any tips or help would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 08-22-2018, 09:12 PM   #2
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You’ll need to find the sweet spot.
Id say anywhere between 7 1/2” and 8 1/4”.
Try each by 1/4” and see which one vibrates less and is quieter.
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Old 08-22-2018, 09:15 PM   #3
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1916 aluminum arrows would be good out of that now.
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Old 08-22-2018, 09:27 PM   #4
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Ok thanks guys! If my draw is 28-29”, should I run full length arrows or what length?
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:22 PM   #5
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I'd start at 8" on the brace height... Gt Trad 30.5" 3555's with 125grain will get you real close to where you want to be. Good luck my friend.
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Old 08-23-2018, 06:57 AM   #6
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I'd start at 8" on the brace height... Gt Trad 30.5" 3555's with 125grain will get you real close to where you want to be. Good luck my friend.
^^^Listen to this guy^^^. He's a walking encyclopedia for bow tuning, I promise. Congrats and enjoy, there's nothing like it!!
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Old 08-23-2018, 07:18 AM   #7
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I'd start at 8" on the brace height... Gt Trad 30.5" 3555's with 125grain will get you real close to where you want to be. Good luck my friend.
I'll echo about listening to this guy. Hi Ben!

My palmer was very close to 8" BH. A little less
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:10 AM   #8
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Why don't you call Mike Palmer. He knows a thing or 2 about those bows and is a middling shot, so he might have a suggestion on the arrows too
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:29 AM   #9
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Listen to what Ben (caughtandhobble) suggested. It's a good start.

Since you are starting out with trad and jumping in on a decently weighted draw (45-48# at you DL) I would start there and give it some time. You might find that you are short drawing because you aren't used to holding that much weight (compared to the let off of a compound.) So, you might get some weird flight as you try and develop consistent, good form. Don't worry about tuning beyond that until you are shooting consistently.

have fun! It is addicting as all get out.
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:39 AM   #10
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I will echo what swamprabbit said. When starting in trad out I drove myself crazy trying to tune arrows before my form got consistent. Until you are drawing and anchoring the same way every time tuning can be a frustrating exercise in futility. The advice above will give you a good starting point.
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Old 08-23-2018, 11:17 AM   #11
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Being as addictive as Trad is...I would highly suggest starting out very very slowly. A FEW shots a day...not umpteen gazillion shot sessions. The constant strain/tension on the muscles, joints, and ligaments can be quite taxing to the unadjusted body. Its really hard to not go balls to the wall but...your body will let you know...listen to it.

Good luck and God bless.
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Old 08-24-2018, 11:43 AM   #12
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Lots of good advice listed above and I think Caughtandhobble has you at a good starting point.

Just remember; Tuning is a process, it is ever evolving, so take your time.
It is Not a one and done process.
Strap on your helmet and enjoy the ride.

There are a number of variables that go into this. - don't get frustrated.

After 8 years of doing this I still tweak my tuning all the time.

Different strings affect your tuning.

Strings "mature", they stretch, they just act different over time. Until they are "broken in" you will still see changes.

Your form will also change over time.

I own 4 Palmer Bows and at least 6 sets of limbs, some of which have the exact same specs yet they each like something a little bit different.

I am friends with Mike and I know what he will tell you.... he is going to give you a recommended brace height range and tell you to shoot the bow to tune it. Meaning- do what the arrow tells you.

Here is one thing I do know about his bows: The brace height needs to be 7.5 or above. They just seem shoot better/quieter/faster right around 7.5 to 7 3/4.

Your nockpoint should be 1/2" to 3/4" above center.

3 under requires a higher nockpoint than split.

If shooting 3 under, install a nockpoint under your arrow nock. So 2 nocks on the string. One above and one under.

I suggest using a tie on nockpoint that can be adjust by hand. I hate the metal nockpoints. They are hard to adjust and can get burs.

Hope this helps.
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Old 08-25-2018, 11:05 AM   #13
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Very cool, thanks guys!
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Old 08-25-2018, 06:40 PM   #14
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Shot some axis 400 traditionals today, brass inserts, 125gr point, 30.5Ē long and played with brace height. 8Ē on the dot seemed to shoot pretty well. Was mostly all over the place but managed 2 good arrows at 12 yards before I quit.

Lots of fun! Thanks for the insight everyone
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Old 08-26-2018, 12:16 AM   #15
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Whatever you do, donít miss that deer, or your arrow is toast!!! 🤣🤣🤣

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Old 08-26-2018, 04:49 PM   #16
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No kidding - that backstop will make you focus for sure!
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Seriously though... I would move your target for trad shooting..... I found my backstop when I made the switch.

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Old 09-28-2022, 11:29 AM   #18
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bringing this back up! Hoping to get my first tradbow kill this year - carried my bow a few times in the past few years, but haven't been able make it happen yet with our little kids.

Got the bow dialed in again and feeling pretty solid out to 15 yards thus far.

*I did have a question on broadheads - I'm using Steelforce 125gr - 4 blade heads for practice and they are flying really well. But, they don't seem that sharp?

Are there better heads I should look at in the 125gr weight range?

Thanks for the help!
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Old 09-28-2022, 11:35 AM   #19
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Old 09-28-2022, 01:09 PM   #20
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I shot 7-7/8 on my Palmer with 35/55 carbons . With 190 up front
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Old 09-28-2022, 03:44 PM   #21
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*I did have a question on broadheads - I'm using Steelforce 125gr - 4 blade heads for practice and they are flying really well. But, they don't seem that sharp?

Are there better heads I should look at in the 125gr weight range?

Thanks for the help!

Broadhead sharpness is critical! You should be able to resharpen those blades. If Iím not mistaken, you can take those heads apart to sharpen the blades. If you canít get them sharp, I would definitely find a different broadhead to hunt with.

I wonít put a broadhead on my arrow unless it will easily shave hair!

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Old 10-02-2022, 06:47 PM   #22
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I agree with Bisch, they need to shave. Being a knife maker, I don't have a problem getting my broadheads razor sharp. I've been using Muzzy Phantoms 220 gn with the bleeder blades for 8 or more years. Unfortunately, I can't find them anymore, but thank God I still have a few without the bleeder blades, I'm ok with that. I like heavy, always have.
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Old 10-03-2022, 10:15 AM   #23
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thanks guys, found a package of unopened 125gr magnus 2 blades in my stash that are flying great. Went ahead and ordered some new 4 blades as well - they are surprisingly hard to find.

Gotta keep practicing and hopefully get a chance at a big buck this year.
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Old 10-03-2022, 11:12 AM   #24
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Good luck! Hope to see an LDP from you soon!!!!

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