CC/LTC Sign Question

[LFD2037]

So the local BWW has a sign @ the front door. It simply says something like:
No carrying of firearms allowed in premises.
No 30.06 or 30.07.
A buddy & I started discussing this & neither of us know the answers to these 2 questions.
Questions:
what if I carry concealed or open carry there & they say I can't do that?
What is the legal repercussions if I challenge them on that?
Yes, it's easier to just take it to the car or leave but legally, what can they do?

[Outbreaker]

If it is not 30.06, 30.07 or 51% it is intended for those without and LTC/CHL

[Outbreaker]

If you open carry and they give you verbal notice it is the same as written.

Keep it hidden and carry on.

[krisw]

You can't take a long arm in there. If they tell you to leave though, pretty sure you have to.

[LFD2037]

If you open carry and they give you verbal notice it is the same as written.

Keep it hidden and carry on.

See, I don't think the verbal aspect comes into play as there's no sign that I'm violating. Right/wrong?

[NewTexian]

If they tell you to leave and you don't you are now tresspassing, LTC or not. A business can have its own set of rules, and would like its customers to obey their rules.
Same as a rule saying you nust wear shoes while inside, if you don't wear shoes you will be asked to leave.

[timoub007]

Personally I would think that a BWW may fall in the 51% category of the law. Any managers or well informed workers of a BWW that knows their revenue breakdown?

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[Outbreaker]

BWW does not have a 51% license they have a restaurant license.

30.06 notice and 30.07 notice can be given either I writing OR verbal. You are then breaking the law once notified if you do not leave.

[timoub007]

Not being in that business I did not know there are different types of licenses. I thought the rule was written based on sales.

Always learning on TBH.

[Mike D]

CC/LTC Sign Question

Not being in that business I did not know there are different types of licenses. I thought the rule was written based on sales.

Always learning on TBH.

That's is correct. 51% of their revenue must be derived from alcohol for on premise consumption for the red 51% to be applicable.

As others have stated if you are asked to leave and refuse, then you are trespassing.

If you are carrying properly concealed then there should be no issue.

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[BrandonH]

I think everyone's covered it, but just to reiterate if they ask you to not carry and you refuse you are now breaking the law.

[Outbreaker]

That's is correct. 51% of their revenue must be derived from alcohol for on premise consumption for the red 51% to be applicable.

As others have stated if you are asked to leave and refuse, then you are trespassing.

If you are carrying properly concealed then there should be no issue.

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TABC issues 2 types of licenses for on premises. If you are deriving 51% with the wrong license you are in big trouble. Only true bars usually fall into this.

Most are restaurant. And if they post 51% signs without the right license they are in big trouble with TABC and can loose their license. I have reported several places for that.