Reply
Go Back   TexasBowhunter.com Community Discussion Forums > Topics > Around the Campfire
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-23-2022, 08:24 AM   #1
deerwatcher51
Pope & Young
 
deerwatcher51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Brenham & Richland Springs
Hunt In: Richland Springs & Washington on the Brazos
Default Fawn Recruitment

We did our aerial survey yesterday and my fawn to doe ratio was 73%. My biologist told me it was the highest % he has seen in San Saba County. Almost all of my fawns were born in a Deer Management Pen (DMP). Two of my neighbors, also high fenced, had less than 30% each, no DMP. Just wondering what everyone else is seeing out there.
deerwatcher51 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 08:57 AM   #2
sasqy
Ten Point
 
sasqy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: on Salt Creek
Hunt In: my Sasquatch Suit
Default

Talked to a guy yesterday, said their crop was prob 20% now.
Said does dried up and left babies to starve due to the drought. Their ranch in Thurber.
sasqy is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 09:18 AM   #3
TKRanch
Ten Point
 
TKRanch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Back in TEXAS!!! Sandia, TX
Default

We have 8 yard does that come up everyday. I watched them all spring and summer getting fatter and fatter, then watched them "bag up" and was expecting them all to fawn and see the little ones everywhere. Well, we ended up only having 2 successful mothers, one with twins and one single. The others just went skinny again and nothing. This is on 400 LF acres...... have not paid much attention to the non yard deer, but have only seen a few fawns otherwise.....
TKRanch is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 10:43 AM   #4
Low Fence
Pope & Young
 
Low Fence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Quitman, Tx.
Default

I run cameras year around. On and off bait sites and cover a lot of habitat all year. I’ve seen 2 fawns all year from probably close to 20-25 different doe of breeding age

It ain’t good in my area
Low Fence is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 10:57 AM   #5
adam_p
Ten Point
 
adam_p's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Pilot Point
Hunt In: Cooke, Denton, Oklahoma
Default

I've had 0 fawn pics this year on our place in Cooke County.
adam_p is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 11:57 AM   #6
Sika
Pope & Young
 
Sika's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Artesia Wells
Hunt In: Llano and South Texas
Default

Statewide average will be below 30% this year.
On the Llano ranch we observed 13% fawn production. The South Texas ranch did better @ 59% because I let the DMP does raise their fawns in the pen and held them as long possible.
Sika is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 11:59 AM   #7
brokeno
Pope & Young
 
brokeno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Smiley, Texas
Hunt In: Gonzales & Young Co and anywhere
Default

I have seen no fawns on my place this year in Gonzales county
brokeno is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 12:24 PM   #8
Drycreek3189
Pope & Young
 
Drycreek3189's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Troup
Hunt In: Cherokee, Rusk Counties
Default

Only 85 acres at my house, but only one fawn on camera. We have lots of coyotes to add to the drought. We have a least one set of twins as of a week ago on a 350 acre lease 15/20 miles away. That’s fairly normal for where I hunt, lots of coyotes both places.
Drycreek3189 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 01:35 PM   #9
Strummer
Pope & Young
 
Strummer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Edna Tx
Hunt In: At Gary's place ,and the backyard
Default Fawn Recruitment

We have a group of 7 does that hang out at the house . I seen 4 fawns to start with . Now that ya mention it I havenít seen any fawns in the last 3 or 4 weeks .

Last edited by Strummer; 09-23-2022 at 01:52 PM.
Strummer is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 01:47 PM   #10
Bowtechshooter
Eight Point
 
Bowtechshooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Encinal
Hunt In: Webb county
Default

We haven’t flewn yet but talking to some pilot buddies, they haven’t seen much good this year.
Bowtechshooter is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 01:51 PM   #11
elhefe
Ten Point
 
elhefe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Montgomery, Tx.
Default

I've got a group of 7-10 does in the backyard and I've got 5 fawns I see fairly regularly. We have some coyotes but these are very non pressured deer so I'm sure my small sampling size is not typical at all.
elhefe is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 01:58 PM   #12
DUKFVR
Pope & Young
 
DUKFVR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Sorry Azz Houston & Young County
Hunt In: Young County & Anywhere A Duck Flies!
Default

Had 1 pic early spring. None since in western young county.
DUKFVR is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 02:15 PM   #13
barnag
Four Point
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Hunt In: Texas
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
We have a group of 7 does that hang out at the house . I seen 4 fawns to start with . Now that ya mention it I havenít seen any fawns in the last 3 or 4 weeks .
I had seen 3 fawns but haven't seen them in the last 4 weeks or so as well. At what point are they able to live on their own? What's the danger zone? Like I said, I was seeing them thrive a month ago, but haven't seen them since.
barnag is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 02:24 PM   #14
TexasTK
Ten Point
 
TexasTK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Boerne
Hunt In: Dimmit County & Beyond
Default

I have yet to see a fawn this year at my place in Dimmit County. It is all natural deer with no pens or any kind of breeding facility.
TexasTK is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 02:28 PM   #15
buck_wild
Pope & Young
 
buck_wild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Corpus Christi
Default

We are estimating 25% survival in San Pat/Refugio Co.
buck_wild is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 03:10 PM   #16
CyTxCazador
Eight Point
 
CyTxCazador's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Cypress
Hunt In: Mexico, Rockdale, Normangee, Madisonville
Default

Natives are 100%
HF is under 10% - I’m attributing this to a since-solved yote problem.
CyTxCazador is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 03:38 PM   #17
Brute Killer
Pope & Young
 
Brute Killer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Pleasanton
Hunt In: Pleasanton
Default

I have fawns everywhere. Don't know the ratio.
The rain came in the nick of time.
Brute Killer is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 04:14 PM   #18
Big pig
Pope & Young
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Blanket, TX
Hunt In: Brown Co.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TKRanch View Post
We have 8 yard does that come up everyday. I watched them all spring and summer getting fatter and fatter, then watched them "bag up" and was expecting them all to fawn and see the little ones everywhere. Well, we ended up only having 2 successful mothers, one with twins and one single. The others just went skinny again and nothing. This is on 400 LF acres...... have not paid much attention to the non yard deer, but have only seen a few fawns otherwise.....
Almost exactly what I have seen here in Brown Coubty. 300 acres low fence.
Only fawns I see are the house fawns. And I am out in the field everyday.
Between coyotes, bobcats and drought fawn survival
is approx 15-20% overall. Thanks to a couple sets of twins.

BP
Big pig is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 04:28 PM   #19
bgleaton
Ten Point
 
bgleaton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Hunt In: Menard County, TX
Default

Our survey showed 0.7 fawns per doe in our survey. We were also told that we had a very high fawn survival and almost 2.5x better than the average fawn crop this year. I'm sure a lot of it has to be attributed to us not grazing our place this year to allow grasses to be high, feeding a LOT, and providing plenty of water.
bgleaton is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 04:36 PM   #20
toledo
Ten Point
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: College Station
Hunt In: the road by your lease
Default

How much water do they actually need? We had crazy bad drought. But, I have multiple ponds that the deer seem to totally ignore no matter how hot it is.
toledo is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 11:31 PM   #21
Brute Killer
Pope & Young
 
Brute Killer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Pleasanton
Hunt In: Pleasanton
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brute Killer View Post
I have fawns everywhere. Don't know the ratio.
The rain came in the nick of time.
Between my brother and myself, we killed 14 coyotes this year, too, on 500 acres.
10 were right before fawning.
Brute Killer is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-23-2022, 11:42 PM   #22
lanceodom
Pope & Young
 
lanceodom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Houston
Hunt In: LaSalle County
Default

Did our helicopter survey yesterday and we had 45%. High fence in LaSalle county. I think the rains were about a month late.
lanceodom is online now   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-24-2022, 12:01 AM   #23
Texashookset
Six Point
 
Texashookset's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: SW Comal
Hunt In: Webb
Default

Our biologist is saying 4-11% is what he’s seen on the surrounding ranches by us, all lf as well. Hasn’t flown ours since February but not looking good from what we’ve seen either.
Texashookset is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-24-2022, 12:17 AM   #24
txtimetravler
Pope & Young
 
txtimetravler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Tx
Hunt In: Wilco
Default

Will this help get deer numbers in check?Öfor overpopulated areas like central texas?

Who will be killing does next month?
txtimetravler is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-24-2022, 12:25 AM   #25
Texashookset
Six Point
 
Texashookset's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: SW Comal
Hunt In: Webb
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by txtimetravler View Post
Will this help get deer numbers in check?Öfor overpopulated areas like central texas?

Who will be killing does next month?
Weíre looking at 30 does total, had 90 last year and 120 the year before. 14 hunters.
Texashookset is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-24-2022, 08:23 AM   #26
deerwatcher51
Pope & Young
 
deerwatcher51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Brenham & Richland Springs
Hunt In: Richland Springs & Washington on the Brazos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sika View Post
Statewide average will be below 30% this year.
On the Llano ranch we observed 13% fawn production. The South Texas ranch did better @ 59% because I let the DMP does raise their fawns in the pen and held them as long possible.
That is what I did with the DMP. I did not let mine out until August 31st.
deerwatcher51 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-24-2022, 09:20 PM   #27
KactusKiller
Pope & Young
 
KactusKiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Midlothian, TX
Hunt In: Seminole co OK, Navarro co TX
Default

Navarro Co TX had great crop in my area and Seminole CO Ok also seemed to be great. Had good rain in spring at both but got really dry in summer. Was still good enough to carry fawns thru.
KactusKiller is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-24-2022, 09:26 PM   #28
Sippy
Pope & Young
 
Sippy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Tyler
Hunt In: Burnet, Smith, Eastland
Default

10-30% on central and west tx clients. East tx 18-45% both fed and unfed, all HF but 2.
Sippy is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-25-2022, 11:31 AM   #29
webb09
Ten Point
 
webb09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: New Braunfels
Hunt In: Webb County
Default

We fly this coming weekend. I don’t expect anything over 7%
webb09 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-25-2022, 04:38 PM   #30
Big pig
Pope & Young
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Blanket, TX
Hunt In: Brown Co.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by txtimetravler View Post
Will this help get deer numbers in check?Öfor overpopulated areas like central texas?

Who will be killing does next month?
We donít have an over population.
Zero. I have already seen 7 dead dead this year from various causes.
Big pig is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-25-2022, 11:03 PM   #31
M16
Pope & Young
 
M16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Hunt In: Colorado, LaSalle, McCulloch Counties
Default

I haven’t done my other places yet. But one of my places in Colorado County came in at 12.5%.
M16 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-25-2022, 11:12 PM   #32
BrandonF
Eight Point
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: East Texas
Default

I’ve noticed lots of singles this year compared to twins in the past few years on a few different properties in Smith County. All low fence.
BrandonF is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-26-2022, 05:58 PM   #33
coldtrail
Spike
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Default

Low where Im at too
coldtrail is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-26-2022, 10:53 PM   #34
kyle1974
Pope & Young
 
kyle1974's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flour Bluff, America
Hunt In: Hebbronville
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by webb09 View Post
We fly this coming weekend. I don’t expect anything over 7%
that's rough. I am thinking about the same for our place, maybe worse due to the grazing. the one aspect I try to remain hopeful on is the area around the tanks is really thick, and the does like to bed down there. we will see. So far in about 8 trips to the lease, I've seen 2 fawns.

I guess the positive side when you have to debate if a deer is 7 or not in 2029, you can be pretty sure it's not since an entire age class just disappeared
kyle1974 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 09-27-2022, 09:56 AM   #35
Clearfork51
Four Point
 
Clearfork51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Springtown
Hunt In: Backyard
Default

My place is in Parker county. Have seen 3 fawns just this morning. Seem to be in good numbers here.
Clearfork51 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-02-2022, 11:01 PM   #36
webb09
Ten Point
 
webb09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: New Braunfels
Hunt In: Webb County
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kyle1974 View Post
that's rough. I am thinking about the same for our place, maybe worse due to the grazing. the one aspect I try to remain hopeful on is the area around the tanks is really thick, and the does like to bed down there. we will see. So far in about 8 trips to the lease, I've seen 2 fawns.

I guess the positive side when you have to debate if a deer is 7 or not in 2029, you can be pretty sure it's not since an entire age class just disappeared
Exactly. Ours was 3%, but after problems w chopper, didnít get in the air till after 10:30
webb09 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-02-2022, 11:11 PM   #37
RMW
Pope & Young
 
RMW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Burr
Hunt In: Down South
Default

Haven’t seen a fawn in Rufugio/Bee county, big rains came way to late.
RMW is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-03-2022, 12:21 AM   #38
Texashookset
Six Point
 
Texashookset's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: SW Comal
Hunt In: Webb
Default

This weekends blind counts had us around 18% so above what the biologist thought but it was just a sporadic count with only about six of us. No one saw a set of twins.
Texashookset is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-03-2022, 07:46 AM   #39
Big pig
Pope & Young
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Blanket, TX
Hunt In: Brown Co.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lanceodom View Post
Did our helicopter survey yesterday and we had 45%. High fence in LaSalle county. I think the rains were about a month late.
What’s “Normal” on your place ?
Any cattle on that place ?

Thanks

Last edited by Big pig; 10-03-2022 at 08:11 AM.
Big pig is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 10-03-2022, 08:59 AM   #40
kyle1974
Pope & Young
 
kyle1974's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flour Bluff, America
Hunt In: Hebbronville
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by webb09 View Post
Exactly. Ours was 3%, but after problems w chopper, didnít get in the air till after 10:30
ugh, that sucks. hopefully they missed some that were bedded down.

one of the guys watched a solo doe come out a couple hundred yards north of a blind, walk about 200 yards to the west of the blind, and when she came back out, she had a fawn with her.

so there was the 1 fawn we saw this weekend
kyle1974 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:17 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1999-2012, TexasBowhunter.com