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Old 01-10-2019, 09:16 AM   #1
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Are your broadheads. Really? I know we want them as sharp as possible, and I can get mine to cut some hair but they don't really shave like a super sharp knife will. I start with a file then use an accusharp. I'm kicking around getting a KME but I don't know that it's really necessary or that it would be that much better than what I'm using now.
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Old 01-10-2019, 09:30 AM   #2
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Like a really sharp knife. And two blade, double bevel heads are easier for me to get that way.
Shaving "a few hairs" sharp can be deceiving. If it's not basically wiping them off ypr arm/leg it could be basically just sawing or breaking through the few you see come off. But really even that sharp will kill if you put it through the boiler room. But the blood trail and wound opening can be lessened.

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Old 01-10-2019, 10:02 AM   #3
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I'm having good luck with the KME knife sharpener. The only suggestion I have is buy the extra course 100 diamond stone .The sharpener comes with a 140 and the 100 will save you time getting the initial bevel. Ounce you get the bevel set and the edge rolled over everything goes pretty quick. Putting the arrow in the right place is more important than being able to shave with the broadhead. I've never had a broadhead that will still shave after it has passed through an animal , so I've always wondered just how sharp is the broadhead after it makes the initial pass through the hide and ribs . It has to do that before it gets to the vitals.
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Old 01-10-2019, 10:53 AM   #4
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If it doesn’t shave with ease it doesn’t go in my quiver.
My broadheads will shave after passing through an animal almost every time.

The quality of steel varies from bh to bh
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Old 01-10-2019, 10:59 AM   #5
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Steel quality or even aluminum ferrel quality varies. But a head that is too hard is too difficult for many to sharpen well. Too soft the same. The head I shot the doe with Sunday will still shave. I touched it up after it killed the one the Tuesday before and will touch it up and let it eat again.

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Old 01-10-2019, 11:04 AM   #6
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For two blade heads like Zwickey’s I start with a file at an angle of about 20 degrees. After I have the angle honed, I go back at a slightly steeper angle on just the tip edge of about 22-24 degrees using light pressure from one side to another. Once I have a fine edge, I use a leather strip and take the burr off. It should at that time shave with no resistance. If they t doesn’t shave easily, it doesn’t go into my quiver.
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:11 AM   #7
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Mine shave easily! I am the worlds worst at sharpening anything. For a loooong time, I shot Thunderhead 125 broadheads because I figured a sharp T-Head was better than a not so sharp cut-on-contact head that I had tried to sharpen.

I then found the KME Knife sharpener, and used it for years to get my broadheads very, very sharp. I detested sharpening broadheads, and would put it off till I was down to my last one. It takes me about 30 minutes per head using the KME (that is not a knock on that great product; it is evidence of how bad I suck at sharpening things).

Then I bought a Chefís Choice EdgeSelect 120 electric knife sharpener off the TBH classifieds for my kitchen knives. It worked so well, I decided to try it for my 2-blade broadheads.





WOWSER!!!

I can get my heads shaving sharp in about 5min per head now, and I actually enjoy the process!!

This sharpener will only do 2-blade heads, and only heads that you can remove the blade from the ferrule. I have done Magnus Stinger, German Kinetic, and Eclipse blades with it, all with great results.

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Old 01-10-2019, 11:41 AM   #8
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Mine have always been just as a new razor blade. However, when I was short on those and had an afternoon to bolt out and hunt a few years ago...

the rusted 100gr Thunderhead went straight through the deer at 37 yds and into the earth just like a new blade.

I don't stress over it as much as I once did.
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:51 AM   #9
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If it doesnít shave with ease it doesnít go in my quiver.
My broadheads will shave after passing through an animal almost every time.

The quality of steel varies from bh to bh
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:42 PM   #10
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I too used to think I was handicapped when it came to sharpening broadheads, but then I realized the hair on my arms is just REALLY tough!

Seriously, I struggle to get my heads "razor" sharp. I have a KME and almost every other sharpener on the market. I have great killing success with my set up, but feel the blood trails would be a lot better with sharper heads. DRT was right, if you put it through the boiler room, they will die! You just may not have the greatest blood trail to follow.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:54 PM   #11
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https://www.amazon.com/Razor-Sharp-E.../dp/B0002IXQD8

Here is the system I use in case anyone is interested..only tricky part is maintaining a consistent angle. But once you get used to it it is super easy!
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Old 01-10-2019, 01:00 PM   #12
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Is out of the box sharp not sufficient? Or do you like to tinker with things? If it is a reused broadhead, I only use on hogs and such.
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Old 01-10-2019, 01:15 PM   #13
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Is out of the box sharp not sufficient? Or do you like to tinker with things? If it is a reused broadhead, I only use on hogs and such.
I check and touch up even out of the box heads. If they are good I will put them straight in the quiver. But not all are. Even out of the same package. Some heads, like Woodsman Elites, dont even come close to sharp from the package and seem proud of it. I've killed multiple deer with the same heads multiple times. My last two die were shot with the same head. Cleaned it up, touched up and back in the quiver. Right now it's still on the bench on the end of the bloody, broken shaft waiting to be touched up for another kill.

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Old 01-10-2019, 01:17 PM   #14
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https://www.amazon.com/Razor-Sharp-E.../dp/B0002IXQD8

Here is the system I use in case anyone is interested..only tricky part is maintaining a consistent angle. But once you get used to it it is super easy!
Same system I use.

The #1 problem folks have when using this system is to much pressure.
Learn to use lite strokes, and you can sharpen any edge, that you can safely apply to the wheels.

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Old 01-10-2019, 01:18 PM   #15
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How sharp is an envelope? You bleed like a stuck pig with a paper cut.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:40 PM   #16
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I've got mine so sharp that I don't dare try to shave with them. I just use the shadow to cut hair off my arm!

Seriously, I use a set of Crock sticks and they come out hair popping sharp. I keep a set in the center console of my truck at all times.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:47 PM   #17
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I use a mill ******* file and can get my zwickeys as sharp as a knife. It will easily shave my arm hair.....in the field I can use the file to get them shaving very quickly but at the house I will use the file and then use a piece of tungsten to get them final.
To me the key is to use a large file, I like a 10" mill *******.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:53 PM   #18
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How sharp is an envelope? You bleed like a stuck pig with a paper cut.
Try taking a 325mg aspirin and a Plavix daily then get that cut.

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Old 01-10-2019, 03:54 PM   #19
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https://www.amazon.com/Razor-Sharp-E.../dp/B0002IXQD8

Here is the system I use in case anyone is interested..only tricky part is maintaining a consistent angle. But once you get used to it it is super easy!
This is on my get done list for this year.

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Old 01-10-2019, 03:57 PM   #20
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Are your broadheads. Really? I know we want them as sharp as possible, and I can get mine to cut some hair but they don't really shave like a super sharp knife will. I start with a file then use an accusharp. I'm kicking around getting a KME but I don't know that it's really necessary or that it would be that much better than what I'm using now.
I've got a KME sharpener I'll make ya a deal on if your interested. Definitely helped in keeping the corrected angle on the heads when sharpening. I bought it thinking it would be quicker to sharpen my 9527 different broadheads i was testing out/planning to use before my Africa trip, but ended up sticking with my old school method.
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:20 PM   #21
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https://www.amazon.com/Razor-Sharp-E.../dp/B0002IXQD8

Here is the system I use in case anyone is interested..only tricky part is maintaining a consistent angle. But once you get used to it it is super easy!


I have paper wheels. Pressure is not the issue for me. Holding a consistent angle on both sides is an issue for me. Even holding a consistent angle from pass to pass.

Not being able to hold a consistent angle is why I cannot seem to get anything sharp unless I have some sort of guide to make me keep the angle consistent!!!!!

Iíve tried just about everything over the years. The KME was my best, but it was super slow for me. The sharpener I posted above gets my heads shaving in a reasonable amount of time!!!!

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Old 01-10-2019, 04:41 PM   #22
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Getting one edge sharp is pretty easy, trying to match it exactly on the opposing bevel to raise a burr is where it is usually screwed up. One reason I like single bevel heads is I find them much easier to sharpen. Get that one edge sharp then a few light strokes front and back on the paper wheel and you are popping hair.
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Old 01-10-2019, 05:01 PM   #23
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I use a set of $15 Lansky crock sticks, and get mine shaving sharp.

I use a file for any major corrections or repairs.
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Old 01-10-2019, 08:22 PM   #24
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the rusted 100gr Thunderhead went straight through the deer at 37 yds and into the earth just like a new blade.

I don't stress over it as much as I once did.
This is consistent with my experience.
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Old 01-10-2019, 08:23 PM   #25
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Are your broadheads. Really? I know we want them as sharp as possible, and I can get mine to cut some hair but they don't really shave like a super sharp knife will. I start with a file then use an accusharp. I'm kicking around getting a KME but I don't know that it's really necessary or that it would be that much better than what I'm using now.
are you using a strop? if not thats whats missing. If your using one, you need honing compound ( like the green one)
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Old 01-10-2019, 09:02 PM   #26
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I like uncle Teds rough sharp method.
My kid bumped my leg with his broadhead- cut through jeans under armour and me like butter very little pressure or pain
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I've got a KME sharpener I'll make ya a deal on if your interested. Definitely helped in keeping the corrected angle on the heads when sharpening. I bought it thinking it would be quicker to sharpen my 9527 different broadheads i was testing out/planning to use before my Africa trip, but ended up sticking with my old school method.
Thanks Shiloh. I'll keep it mind, just not sure what I'm gonna get. I wanna try something different and see if I can get them a bit sharper for sure though.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:47 PM   #28
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I have been using a work sharp Ken Onion on my broadheads and it gets them scary sharp after using the polishing belt.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:39 PM   #29
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I use tuskers which are very hard to get shaving sharp but they will cut. I use a file to get a good edge then use the edge of the file to get a rough edge. Kinda like a serrated edge. My Zwickeys are much easier to get very sharp. My main concern is if it will cut, not necessarily shave.
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Old 01-22-2019, 02:39 PM   #30
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Crock sticks for me too and they work great.
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I ordered a pack of Simmons Safaris, and just for grins ordered one of the RADA sharpeners. Not only did it work well on the Simmons heads, it got all my other 2 blades shaving sharp too!!
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I too used to think I was handicapped when it came to sharpening broadheads, but then I realized the hair on my arms is just REALLY tough!

Seriously, I struggle to get my heads "razor" sharp. I have a KME and almost every other sharpener on the market. I have great killing success with my set up, but feel the blood trails would be a lot better with sharper heads. DRT was right, if you put it through the boiler room, they will die! You just may not have the greatest blood trail to follow.

when hair grows back, supposedly it is tougher, so after you've shaved your whole body with re-sharpened blades in the search to find a new patch of softer hair, a person is going to look mighty rough sooner or later.
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