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Old 05-19-2022, 08:25 PM   #1
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Do you guys think I will be 100% by sept 15th. Any info to help me recover quickly would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 05-19-2022, 08:27 PM   #2
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Old 05-19-2022, 08:37 PM   #3
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I had surgery on 2-9-22 and I’m not near 100% yet
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Old 05-19-2022, 08:39 PM   #4
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Yes, but Do Not Miss a PT.

Won't be the easiest, but why would you miss it when you have 4 months to pull it together. It's not your legs afterall.

I had ACL-Patella graph in a June month. I was about 35 yrs then. Hiked and hunted the Rockies that October. Same routes and tough paths. Didn't own a atv or horse then.

Was hard, but actually helped recovery just as my Dr said it would.

Do Not Miss PT.

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Old 05-19-2022, 08:40 PM   #5
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Have you already had the surgery?
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Old 05-19-2022, 08:40 PM   #6
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It will take you 2 years to get back to 75 %
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Therapy and time is the only healer. You may never be 100% again. I don’t think I will. Lots of therapy will get you close.
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Old 05-19-2022, 08:53 PM   #8
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I'd consider cryo therapy.

Stem cell therapy would be another but very costly and not sure how much it would help.

Need to think outside the box.

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Old 05-19-2022, 08:59 PM   #9
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Do you guys think I will be 100% by sept 15th. Any info to help me recover quickly would be greatly appreciated.

How old are you if you donít mind me asking? It makes a big difference. How many anchors were used to fix your problem?


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Old 05-19-2022, 09:01 PM   #10
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Yes with right Doc and lots of STEM(marrow amniotic blend)
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:02 PM   #11
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I had the same surgery at 17 on my non dominant shoulder and was able to return to baseball in 4 months. My wife is also a pt now and said it’s possible but no guarantees.
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:02 PM   #12
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Most insurances pick it up when itís added on to a survey, but not as a stand alone. Regardless Iíd pay. Iíve had several surgeries and complementing injections.
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:17 PM   #13
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It took me a full year including 2 rounds of PT. Don't mean to be discouraging, but I'd be very surprised if it happens. I was around 50 when I had mine. YMMV
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:19 PM   #14
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No, I had surgery 11/29/21 and just finished PT two weeks ago. I have been told from everyone in the process it will take a year to recover.
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:32 PM   #15
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:32 PM   #16
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Took me about a year.
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Old 05-20-2022, 12:44 AM   #17
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Take a crossbow.
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Old 05-20-2022, 06:32 AM   #18
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Everyone saying it takes a year is sure disappointing to hear. I’m 3 months out of surgery and sure hope it doesn’t take me 9 more to recover. My dominant arm was done. It’s a slow process for me at 51 years old.
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Old 05-20-2022, 06:37 AM   #19
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Every person is different. I was about 3-4 months to be normal but not 100%. Walk and keep blood moving in body. Do you PT. Eat right and sleep
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Old 05-20-2022, 06:48 AM   #20
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At age 42 I had my right shoulder done to repair and old rotator cuff and cartilage tear as well as bone spurs removed. I was completely released to resume all activities at 3.5 months. Could I have beed bow ready to go elk hunting 2 weeks later, doubtful. But I can tell you my shoulders and upper back havenít ever been stronger that they were then.

Shredded my left shoulder just short of my 50th Bday. It was basically McGuyvered back together with 5 anchors. It took 6 months for full release with that one and it took many months to get my strength back. I Had severe muscle atrophy in my upper body that go round. I basically sat on a couch with my arm in a sling for 6 weeks before PT was started. Worst 6 weeks of my life.

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Old 05-20-2022, 06:57 AM   #21
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I would schedule the surgery the week after the hunt unless I was in so much pain that it had to be now.
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Old 05-20-2022, 07:13 AM   #22
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Feel for you, I had a shoulder "clean up" 60 days ago which isn't anything close to a rotator cuff. I'm no where close to being able to pull a bow back at this point. Going into the surgery they thought it was a rotator or labrum and I was looking at 6wks in a sling before starting PT and 6 months of recovery.

If you absolutely have to get surgery, a crossbow may be your solution to keep the hunt.
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Old 05-20-2022, 07:15 AM   #23
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Gonna be hard at 17 weeks, but it can be done. Or put it off until after deer season. Both of mine are messed up and I still workout very heavy 6 days a week. Hurts like hell but I don't want to have surgery.
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Old 05-20-2022, 07:27 AM   #24
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Old 05-20-2022, 07:29 AM   #25
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Yes, but Do Not Miss a PT.

Won't be the easiest, but why would you miss it when you have 4 months to pull it together. It's not your legs afterall.

I had ACL-Patella graph in a June month. I was about 35 yrs then. Hiked and hunted the Rockies that October. Same routes and tough paths. Didn't own a atv or horse then.

Was hard, but actually helped recovery just as my Dr said it would.

Do Not Miss PT.
thanks for the encouragement, i wont miss PT
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Old 05-20-2022, 07:30 AM   #26
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im 59, he was able to sew the tendon back on
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Old 05-20-2022, 07:32 AM   #27
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I've had 4 (2 on each shoulder) and I'd so no but it may depend on what they had to do.
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Old 05-20-2022, 07:42 AM   #28
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First, how old are you? At 59, you don't recover as quickly as a 35 year old.
Second, how major is the surgery? That also affects recovery time.
Third, learn how to shoot alternatively just in case. Remi Warren is using his mouth because he had major wrist surgery. Maybe you could do this for a season.

This all ignores the fact that you will need to be comfortable with you shot. Me personally, if I was unable to shoot my bow for 12 weeks, and only had 5 weeks to train after that, I know I probably won't be at a draw weight sufficient for elk. So I would figure out a way to draw a bow not using the arm. But that is just me.

I hope recovery is quick! Surgery sucks.
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Old 05-20-2022, 07:56 AM   #29
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First, how old are you? At 59, you don't recover as quickly as a 35 year old.
Second, how major is the surgery? That also affects recovery time.
Third, learn how to shoot alternatively just in case. Remi Warren is using his mouth because he had major wrist surgery. Maybe you could do this for a season.

This all ignores the fact that you will need to be comfortable with you shot. Me personally, if I was unable to shoot my bow for 12 weeks, and only had 5 weeks to train after that, I know I probably won't be at a draw weight sufficient for elk. So I would figure out a way to draw a bow not using the arm. But that is just me.

I hope recovery is quick! Surgery sucks.
surgery wasnt that bad only last 45 min. i think i can shoot 60lbs in sept. and im hard headed enogh to make it happen. thanks for all the info. typing left handed sucks
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I couldn’t but maybe you can. I’ve had three rotator cuff surgeries and I’m ten months since my last one. I’ve never been 100% since my first one. I’m just now starting to pull my recurve. I can’t get to full draw with the first pull but after about five warmups I can make it but can’t hold it very long. I sold my compound because I just couldn’t get over the hump, even at 56 pounds. I’ve got a crossbow now.
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Old 05-20-2022, 08:04 AM   #31
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"Rotator cuff surgery" doesn't tell us much. Some have rotator cuff surgery with nothing more than degenerative fraying debridement and some procedures are obviously for multiple ruptures with distal clavicle resection/Mumford procedure etc. Hope it is on the simple side of the spectrum. Good luck.

Edit. Just saw your procedure was 45 minutes. That is a good indicator. :-)

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Old 05-20-2022, 08:45 AM   #32
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I really doubt if you will be 100% in that short of a time. I had mine done one Feb. and was shooting again with lower poundage in May with no issues. It took a couple of more months before I could get back to the 63# I like to shoot. What ever you do PT is your friend.
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Old 05-20-2022, 09:09 AM   #33
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I had mine done in March
They say 6 months for full recovery
It has only been 2.5 months and I am not near ready but I am making progress
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Old 05-20-2022, 09:28 AM   #34
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I had mine done in March
They say 6 months for full recovery
It has only been 2.5 months and I am not near ready but I am making progress
thats good to know.
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Old 05-20-2022, 09:42 AM   #35
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I couldnít but maybe you can. Iíve had three rotator cuff surgeries and Iím ten months since my last one. Iíve never been 100% since my first one. Iím just now starting to pull my recurve. I canít get to full draw with the first pull but after about five warmups I can make it but canít hold it very long. I sold my compound because I just couldnít get over the hump, even at 56 pounds. Iíve got a crossbow now.
I was going to suggest going to a light weight recurve or longbow for getting back into shape.

Be wary of using something other than your arm to pull the bow, some states do not allow devices that draw the bow for you.
A crossbow might be an option if legal and if you don't get back to pulling your bow. I have one and would not want to carry it in the mountains though.

Best of luck to you on your recovery.
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Youíll be ready. Iíve never met anyone so mad at elk all the time, so I figure that alone will speed your healing process.


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surgery wasnt that bad only last 45 min. i think i can shoot 60lbs in sept. and im hard headed enogh to make it happen. thanks for all the info. typing left handed sucks
Good luck, I really hope you can. There is nothing better than the elk woods in September/October!
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I was going to suggest going to a light weight recurve or longbow for getting back into shape.

Be wary of using something other than your arm to pull the bow, some states do not allow devices that draw the bow for you.
A crossbow might be an option if legal and if you don't get back to pulling your bow. I have one and would not want to carry it in the mountains though.

Best of luck to you on your recovery.
i just ordered archery training bands
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Youíll be ready. Iíve never met anyone so mad at elk all the time, so I figure that alone will speed your healing process.


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lol I hope your right Curt
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Good luck, I really hope you can. There is nothing better than the elk woods in September/October!
unit 16a New Mexico, it dont get any better.
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Old 05-20-2022, 10:08 AM   #41
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Rehab rehab rehab

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Old 05-20-2022, 10:15 AM   #42
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If the surgery goes well and you are ultra careful the first few weeks and let the initial healing set in, then strictly follow your PT then I would think you could do it. Ii’ve had both shoulders done.

Use the elk hunt as your motivation and push yourself on doing your PT exercises 2-3x/day.

You don’t have to be 100% to draw your bow. It also doesn’t take 70# to kill an elk…

Good luck in your recovery.
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Old 05-20-2022, 10:24 AM   #43
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If the surgery goes well and you are ultra careful the first few weeks and let the initial healing set in, then strictly follow your PT then I would think you could do it. Iiíve had both shoulders done.

Use the elk hunt as your motivation and push yourself on doing your PT exercises 2-3x/day.

You donít have to be 100% to draw your bow. It also doesnít take 70# to kill an elkÖ

Good luck in your recovery.
thank you for the positive info
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Do you guys think I will be 100% by sept 15th. Any info to help me recover quickly would be greatly appreciated.
Nope, I highly doubt it.

I've had both shoulders done due to labral tears and AC decompressions. Even for my minor grade 1 tear on my right shoulder it was 4 months before I was 100% and that didn't even require a sling post surgery. My left shoulder was 9-12 months before I was good to go again. That was with VERY strict adherence to physical therapy and doing all the strengthening they wanted. Granted, people respond differently and ymmv but I seriously doubt it and that's something you don't want to push.

From what I understand the cuff is even tougher on recovery.
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Old 05-20-2022, 10:53 AM   #45
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I’ve got to say I would not be hopeful. The thing with it is you don’t want to overdo it while it’s healing, and it’s a slow heal, or at least mine was. And I was on it with the PT. Also I was in insane shape and healed so fast at that point, and it still took a while. And now I need it again. But I refuse. Because it hurts. And I’m older so it will be even slower to heal.
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Old 05-20-2022, 11:49 AM   #46
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I think 30 days before your hunt you can apply in the special hunt category with a note from your Dr. to hunt with a crossbow. Check out the New Mexico fish and games web page.
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Old 05-20-2022, 12:28 PM   #47
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Several years ago a friend of mine incurred a torn rotator cuff during an altercation with a suspect. He got surgery and a year later they had to go back in for more repair. Today, at least six years later, he has 75 percent mobility. He cannot raise his arm over his head.
However, I would remain optimistic, do your p T, don’t be around smoke or don’t smoke. You’ll either be ready or you won’t.
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Old 05-20-2022, 12:55 PM   #48
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I had my 2nd shoulder done in September and I'm close to a quarter of the way rehabbed, but my Ergonomics gal at work says to only do movements that benefit. I bought a Bear Legit that started me at 5 or 10 lbs. draw weight and I've only increased the draw weight a couple of times, but I'm an ole phart. Stay with it, and it will happen in the proper timeframe. Just don't overdo it.
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Old 05-20-2022, 01:12 PM   #49
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I'm 58. I had mine done on Dec 28. Ive been shooting my bow a little over a week and while it's not 100%, I have no problem shooting it accurately. The shoulder is probably at about 75% recovered. Some days are better than others but I don't have any that are too bad to shoot.

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Old 05-20-2022, 01:35 PM   #50
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