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Old 03-21-2022, 12:05 PM   #1
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Not sure if its the new max but not good
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:06 PM   #2
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I dont know much about aircraft, but it going straight down like that looks fishy to me.
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:07 PM   #3
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yeah thats wild. i hate flying.
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:08 PM   #4
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It’s not the max, it’s the 737-800 which has a great safety record. I agree with sippy, it going straight down is very strange
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:08 PM   #5
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I dont know much about aircraft, but it going straight down like that looks fishy to me.
My co-worker and I said the same thing. Pilot and co-pilot would have to be dead layed over the yolks.
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:13 PM   #6
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yeah thats wild. i hate flying.
We had an engine go out over houston on the way to mexico for our honeymoon last year. They turned back to dfw and our remaining engine was at 25% when we landed.

It would take a lot to get me back on a plane.
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:13 PM   #7
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It’s not the max, it’s the 737-800 which has a great safety record. I agree with sippy, it going straight down is very strange
Glad its not a max

Maybe a horizontal stabilizer full up or down and stuck?
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:20 PM   #8
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definitely not an aircraft expert by any stretch of the imagination but I thought that trajectory was very odd. I do like watching the Air Disaster show on TV, I also never fly.....
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:24 PM   #9
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I can't imagine the horror dropping like a rock from 30k feet...poor folks. It will be interesting to see what they say about the box & passenger list / any Americans on board.

I hate everything airport / commercial travel related.
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We had an engine go out over houston on the way to mexico for our honeymoon last year. They turned back to dfw and our remaining engine was at 25% when we landed.

It would take a lot to get me back on a plane.
nope, i might be done after that lol
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:25 PM   #11
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Ugh. Took 90 seconds to drop 30k feet...
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:31 PM   #12
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Not everything we see in the news is a conspiracy for Gods sake.
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:32 PM   #13
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Not everything we see in the news is a conspiracy for Gods sake.
Never said it was, just a pretty easy observation that they werent trying/able to glide it at all.
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:36 PM   #14
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Suicide???
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:42 PM   #15
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Never said it was, just a pretty easy observation that they werent trying/able to glide it at all.
Passenger jets are pretty much rocks with no lift vs your smaller prop planes...no thrust = gravity takes over. Seems like the engines just went dead??
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:42 PM   #16
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We had an engine go out over houston on the way to mexico for our honeymoon last year. They turned back to dfw and our remaining engine was at 25% when we landed.

It would take a lot to get me back on a plane.
****. That.
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:46 PM   #17
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Passenger jets are pretty much rocks with no lift vs your smaller prop planes...no thrust = gravity takes over. Seems like the engines just went dead??
Not necessarily, At 30k they would have had probably 10,15 min or more of controllable flight. Just because the engines go out does not make a plane of any size nose dive like that.
I'd bet it was a computer issue or a maintenance issue
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:51 PM   #18
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I don't see how you get 10mins of flight if all engines quit simultaneously on a passenger jet.
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:52 PM   #19
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Not necessarily, At 30k they would have had probably 10,15 min or more of controllable flight. Just because the engines go out does not make a plane of any size nose dive like that.
I'd bet it was a computer issue or a maintenance issue
Yep, Sully landed one on the Hudson river without engines. Tom Hanks did it also.
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:53 PM   #20
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I don't see how you get 10mins of flight if all engines quit simultaneously on a passenger jet.
Air speed through decent
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:54 PM   #21
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Its a cabal that has control, deep state flight for sure.
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I don't see how you get 10mins of flight if all engines quit simultaneously on a passenger jet.
Under optimal conditions, a 737 at 30,000 feet should probably glide at least 75 miles.
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:56 PM   #23
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Yep, Sully landed one on the Hudson river without engines. Tom Hanks did it also.
^^^^^^^^^^ did a fine job
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:56 PM   #24
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I dont know much about aircraft, but it going straight down like that looks fishy to me.
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:58 PM   #25
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I don't see how you get 10mins of flight if all engines quit simultaneously on a passenger jet.
Its happened at least a couple times in history, one in particular was British airways flight 009 in the 80's
They do sink fast but controllable
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Old 03-21-2022, 01:09 PM   #26
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Suicide???

That’s what I first thought.


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Old 03-21-2022, 01:27 PM   #27
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I saw a CNN report that said it initially dropped a little over 4000 feet in three minutes. That is not a rapid drop and sounds like a glide. It was sometime after that when it went vertical.
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Old 03-21-2022, 01:30 PM   #28
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Well if it slowed to stall speed it's coming straight down.
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Old 03-21-2022, 01:31 PM   #29
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Not everything we see in the news is a conspiracy for Gods sake.
About 90% of it is.. Its a safe bet.
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Old 03-21-2022, 01:35 PM   #30
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Doesn’t take an FAA investigator to see that that was deliberate…


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Old 03-21-2022, 01:42 PM   #31
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This is why I never listen during the safety announcement on airplanes. Figure if it goes down, I’ll lean forward, place my head between my legs and kiss my @ss goodbye!
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Old 03-21-2022, 02:09 PM   #32
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This is why I never listen during the safety announcement on airplanes. Figure if it goes down, I’ll lean forward, place my head between my legs and kiss my @ss goodbye!
WRONG, I'm gonna find the prettiest lady on the plane, place my head between her legs and kiss her @ss goodbye.
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Old 03-21-2022, 02:09 PM   #33
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The 737 is fitted with angle of attack sensors. If these malfunction the automatic controls try to force the nose down and it is difficult to overcome this. If the pilots were not experienced enough they might not be able to recover.

This short citation came from a 2019 report on angle of attack sensors.

"In interviews late last week, aviation experts said there was no reason for broad alarm about the sensors. But six experts said that the risks posed by a faulty angle-of-attack sensor are amplified by the increasing role of cockpit automation. It is an example of how the same technology that makes aircraft safer — automated software — can be undone by a seemingly small problem.

“The sensor going out is serious,” said Clint Balog, a test pilot and associate professor at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. “But it can be made critical by software.
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Old 03-21-2022, 02:16 PM   #34
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I thought those were only on the MAX? Also if you guys haven't watched the documentary on the previous Boeing crashes on Netflix its worth a watch.
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Old 03-21-2022, 02:20 PM   #35
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Yep, Sully landed one on the Hudson river without engines. Tom Hanks did it also.
I think Tom did it better than Sully, at least he made more money !
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Old 03-21-2022, 02:28 PM   #36
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My co-worker and I said the same thing. Pilot and co-pilot would have to be dead layed over the yolks.
Might with wings sheared off and all or most cargo dumped forward.
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Old 03-21-2022, 02:34 PM   #37
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WRONG, I'm gonna find the prettiest lady on the plane, place my head between her legs and kiss her @ss goodbye.
Now we are talkin
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I thought those were only on the MAX? Also if you guys haven't watched the documentary on the previous Boeing crashes on Netflix its worth a watch.
Those reports, about one-fifth of which involve Boeing planes, include incidents in which AOA sensors were frozen, improperly installed, struck by lightning or even hit by flying birds. In some cases, faulty sensors led to stall warnings, forcing pilots to abort takeoffs or perform emergency landings.
In one 2011 case, the flight crew on a Boeing 737-800 reported that the "angle of attack and airspeed failed" and declared an emergency. An AOA sensor was then replaced. The FAA also issued two directives for various Boeing aircraft models before the 737 MAX was released, indicating that Boeing was aware of the potential for the sensors to cause problems in its planes.
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Old 03-21-2022, 03:37 PM   #39
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Yikes, that looks like the wings folded up or fell off. Curious where they will find the engines. Terrible.
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I used to fly all the time andnever think twice. That has changed in recent years…


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Old 03-21-2022, 03:56 PM   #41
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Yikes, that looks like the wings folded up or fell off. Curious where they will find the engines. Terrible.
I was also wondering how deep the engines would bury.
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Old 03-21-2022, 04:28 PM   #42
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I thought those were only on the MAX? Also if you guys haven't watched the documentary on the previous Boeing crashes on Netflix its worth a watch.
I watched that yesterday. Makes your blood boil.
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Quite the statement.
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Old 03-21-2022, 04:34 PM   #44
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Quite the statement.
Conspiracies abound.
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Old 03-21-2022, 04:48 PM   #45
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I watched that yesterday. Makes your blood boil.
Agreed. It’s blatant corporate greed that has cost hundreds of lives.
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Old 03-21-2022, 05:17 PM   #46
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I don't see how you get 10mins of flight if all engines quit simultaneously on a passenger jet.
It's happened. Google the longest glide by a passenger jet

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Old 03-21-2022, 05:18 PM   #47
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I thought this crash was in China!
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Old 03-21-2022, 05:31 PM   #48
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Didn't the 737 have a malfunction several years back causing the plane to crash headfirst into the swamp. I think the problem was called Rudder Hardover. Anyone remember that? Could that have cause this crash?
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Old 03-21-2022, 05:41 PM   #49
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