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flywise · 03-21-2022, 12:05 PM

Not sure if its the new max but not good

Sippy · 03-21-2022, 12:06 PM

I dont know much about aircraft, but it going straight down like that looks fishy to me.

jshouse · 03-21-2022, 12:07 PM

yeah thats wild. i hate flying.

Capt.Brown · 03-21-2022, 12:08 PM

It’s not the max, it’s the 737-800 which has a great safety record. I agree with sippy, it going straight down is very strange

kcnatural · 03-21-2022, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sippy

I dont know much about aircraft, but it going straight down like that looks fishy to me.

My co-worker and I said the same thing. Pilot and co-pilot would have to be dead layed over the yolks.

Sippy · 03-21-2022, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jshouse

yeah thats wild. i hate flying.

We had an engine go out over houston on the way to mexico for our honeymoon last year. They turned back to dfw and our remaining engine was at 25% when we landed.

It would take a lot to get me back on a plane.

flywise · 03-21-2022, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt.Brown

It’s not the max, it’s the 737-800 which has a great safety record. I agree with sippy, it going straight down is very strange

Glad its not a max

Maybe a horizontal stabilizer full up or down and stuck?

friscopaint · 03-21-2022, 12:20 PM

definitely not an aircraft expert by any stretch of the imagination but I thought that trajectory was very odd. I do like watching the Air Disaster show on TV, I also never fly.....

Artos · 03-21-2022, 12:24 PM

I can't imagine the horror dropping like a rock from 30k feet...poor folks. It will be interesting to see what they say about the box & passenger list / any Americans on board.

I hate everything airport / commercial travel related.

jshouse · 03-21-2022, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sippy

We had an engine go out over houston on the way to mexico for our honeymoon last year. They turned back to dfw and our remaining engine was at 25% when we landed.

It would take a lot to get me back on a plane.

nope, i might be done after that lol

Johnny Dangerr · 03-21-2022, 12:25 PM

Ugh. Took 90 seconds to drop 30k feet...

sotx · 03-21-2022, 12:31 PM

Not everything we see in the news is a conspiracy for Gods sake.

Sippy · 03-21-2022, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sotx

Not everything we see in the news is a conspiracy for Gods sake.

Never said it was, just a pretty easy observation that they werent trying/able to glide it at all.

Oleman · 03-21-2022, 12:36 PM

Suicide???

Artos · 03-21-2022, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sippy

Never said it was, just a pretty easy observation that they werent trying/able to glide it at all.

Passenger jets are pretty much rocks with no lift vs your smaller prop planes...no thrust = gravity takes over. Seems like the engines just went dead??

Colton · 03-21-2022, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sippy

We had an engine go out over houston on the way to mexico for our honeymoon last year. They turned back to dfw and our remaining engine was at 25% when we landed.

It would take a lot to get me back on a plane.

****. That.

flywise · 03-21-2022, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Artos

Passenger jets are pretty much rocks with no lift vs your smaller prop planes...no thrust = gravity takes over. Seems like the engines just went dead??

Not necessarily, At 30k they would have had probably 10,15 min or more of controllable flight. Just because the engines go out does not make a plane of any size nose dive like that.
I'd bet it was a computer issue or a maintenance issue

Artos · 03-21-2022, 12:51 PM

I don't see how you get 10mins of flight if all engines quit simultaneously on a passenger jet.

Hoggslayer · 03-21-2022, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by flywise

Not necessarily, At 30k they would have had probably 10,15 min or more of controllable flight. Just because the engines go out does not make a plane of any size nose dive like that.
I'd bet it was a computer issue or a maintenance issue

Yep, Sully landed one on the Hudson river without engines. Tom Hanks did it also.

GreenZ · 03-21-2022, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Artos

I don't see how you get 10mins of flight if all engines quit simultaneously on a passenger jet.

Air speed through decent

sotx · 03-21-2022, 12:54 PM

Its a cabal that has control, deep state flight for sure.

tvc184 · 03-21-2022, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Artos

I don't see how you get 10mins of flight if all engines quit simultaneously on a passenger jet.

Under optimal conditions, a 737 at 30,000 feet should probably glide at least 75 miles.

flywise · 03-21-2022, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoggslayer

Yep, Sully landed one on the Hudson river without engines. Tom Hanks did it also.

^^^^^^^^^^ did a fine job

EarleyBird · 03-21-2022, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sippy

I dont know much about aircraft, but it going straight down like that looks fishy to me.

Word

flywise · 03-21-2022, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Artos

I don't see how you get 10mins of flight if all engines quit simultaneously on a passenger jet.

Its happened at least a couple times in history, one in particular was British airways flight 009 in the 80's
They do sink fast but controllable

MBV77 · 03-21-2022, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Oleman

Suicide???

That’s what I first thought.

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tvc184 · 03-21-2022, 01:27 PM

I saw a CNN report that said it initially dropped a little over 4000 feet in three minutes. That is not a rapid drop and sounds like a glide. It was sometime after that when it went vertical.

Walker · 03-21-2022, 01:30 PM

Well if it slowed to stall speed it's coming straight down.

ttaxidermy · 03-21-2022, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sotx

Not everything we see in the news is a conspiracy for Gods sake.

About 90% of it is.. Its a safe bet.

Dale Moser · 03-21-2022, 01:35 PM

Doesn’t take an FAA investigator to see that that was deliberate…

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Playa · 03-21-2022, 01:42 PM

This is why I never listen during the safety announcement on airplanes. Figure if it goes down, I’ll lean forward, place my head between my legs and kiss my @ss goodbye!

BETTERLUCKYTHANGOOD · 03-21-2022, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Playa

This is why I never listen during the safety announcement on airplanes. Figure if it goes down, I’ll lean forward, place my head between my legs and kiss my @ss goodbye!

WRONG, I'm gonna find the prettiest lady on the plane, place my head between her legs and kiss her @ss goodbye.

Phillip Fields · 03-21-2022, 02:09 PM

The 737 is fitted with angle of attack sensors. If these malfunction the automatic controls try to force the nose down and it is difficult to overcome this. If the pilots were not experienced enough they might not be able to recover.

This short citation came from a 2019 report on angle of attack sensors.

"In interviews late last week, aviation experts said there was no reason for broad alarm about the sensors. But six experts said that the risks posed by a faulty angle-of-attack sensor are amplified by the increasing role of cockpit automation. It is an example of how the same technology that makes aircraft safer — automated software — can be undone by a seemingly small problem.

“The sensor going out is serious,” said Clint Balog, a test pilot and associate professor at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. “But it can be made critical by software."

ORIONTHEHUNTER · 03-21-2022, 02:16 PM

I thought those were only on the MAX? Also if you guys haven't watched the documentary on the previous Boeing crashes on Netflix its worth a watch.

Drycreek3189 · 03-21-2022, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoggslayer

Yep, Sully landed one on the Hudson river without engines. Tom Hanks did it also.

I think Tom did it better than Sully, at least he made more money !

Let's go Brandon! · 03-21-2022, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kcnatural

My co-worker and I said the same thing. Pilot and co-pilot would have to be dead layed over the yolks.

Might with wings sheared off and all or most cargo dumped forward.

sotx · 03-21-2022, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BETTERLUCKYTHANGOOD

WRONG, I'm gonna find the prettiest lady on the plane, place my head between her legs and kiss her @ss goodbye.

Now we are talkin

Phillip Fields · 03-21-2022, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ORIONTHEHUNTER

I thought those were only on the MAX? Also if you guys haven't watched the documentary on the previous Boeing crashes on Netflix its worth a watch.

Those reports, about one-fifth of which involve Boeing planes, include incidents in which AOA sensors were frozen, improperly installed, struck by lightning or even hit by flying birds. In some cases, faulty sensors led to stall warnings, forcing pilots to abort takeoffs or perform emergency landings.
In one 2011 case, the flight crew on a Boeing 737-800 reported that the "angle of attack and airspeed failed" and declared an emergency. An AOA sensor was then replaced. The FAA also issued two directives for various Boeing aircraft models before the 737 MAX was released, indicating that Boeing was aware of the potential for the sensors to cause problems in its planes.

Neck · 03-21-2022, 03:37 PM

Yikes, that looks like the wings folded up or fell off. Curious where they will find the engines. Terrible.

NKL · 03-21-2022, 03:53 PM

I used to fly all the time andnever think twice. That has changed in recent years…

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Dale Moser · 03-21-2022, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Neck

Yikes, that looks like the wings folded up or fell off. Curious where they will find the engines. Terrible.

I was also wondering how deep the engines would bury.

IowaHunter · 03-21-2022, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ORIONTHEHUNTER

I thought those were only on the MAX? Also if you guys haven't watched the documentary on the previous Boeing crashes on Netflix its worth a watch.

I watched that yesterday. Makes your blood boil.

kae006 · 03-21-2022, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Moser

Doesn’t take an FAA investigator to see that that was deliberate…

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Quite the statement.

sotx · 03-21-2022, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kae006

Quite the statement.

Conspiracies abound.

Drop Tine · 03-21-2022, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHunter

I watched that yesterday. Makes your blood boil.

Agreed. It’s blatant corporate greed that has cost hundreds of lives.

Duckologist · 03-21-2022, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Artos

I don't see how you get 10mins of flight if all engines quit simultaneously on a passenger jet.

It's happened. Google the longest glide by a passenger jet

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Bluesman · 03-21-2022, 05:18 PM

I thought this crash was in China!

PYBUCK · 03-21-2022, 05:31 PM

Didn't the 737 have a malfunction several years back causing the plane to crash headfirst into the swamp. I think the problem was called Rudder Hardover. Anyone remember that? Could that have cause this crash?

DRT · 03-21-2022, 05:41 PM

I just drink enough in the airport I don't worry about anything.

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Killer · 03-21-2022, 05:42 PM

Wow

03-21-2022, 12:05 PM	#1
flywise Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Tx Hunt In: Blanco, Nacadoches,NewMexico,Colorado	Another 737 crash... Not sure if its the new max but not good VIDEO: Boeing 737 passenger jet crashes in southern China mountains \| Wake Up America - YouTube

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Phillip Fields Pope & Young Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chesapeake, VA Hunt In: NC,TX, and anywhere else I can	The 737 is fitted with angle of attack sensors. If these malfunction the automatic controls try to force the nose down and it is difficult to overcome this. If the pilots were not experienced enough they might not be able to recover. This short citation came from a 2019 report on angle of attack sensors. "In interviews late last week, aviation experts said there was no reason for broad alarm about the sensors. But six experts said that the risks posed by a faulty angle-of-attack sensor are amplified by the increasing role of cockpit automation. It is an example of how the same technology that makes aircraft safer — automated software — can be undone by a seemingly small problem. “The sensor going out is serious,” said Clint Balog, a test pilot and associate professor at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. “But it can be made critical by software." Last edited by Phillip Fields; 03-21-2022 at 02:14 PM.

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03-21-2022, 12:06 PM	#2
Sippy Pope & Young Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tyler Hunt In: Burnet, Smith, Eastland	I dont know much about aircraft, but it going straight down like that looks fishy to me.

03-21-2022, 12:07 PM	#3
jshouse Pope & Young Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Rockwall Hunt In: NE Texas	yeah thats wild. i hate flying.

03-21-2022, 12:08 PM	#4
Capt.Brown Ten Point Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Burnet Hunt In: Texas	It’s not the max, it’s the 737-800 which has a great safety record. I agree with sippy, it going straight down is very strange

03-21-2022, 12:20 PM	#8
friscopaint Ten Point Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Collinsville	definitely not an aircraft expert by any stretch of the imagination but I thought that trajectory was very odd. I do like watching the Air Disaster show on TV, I also never fly.....

03-21-2022, 12:24 PM	#9
Artos Pope & Young Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Deep South TX Hunt In: Deep South TX	I can't imagine the horror dropping like a rock from 30k feet...poor folks. It will be interesting to see what they say about the box & passenger list / any Americans on board. I hate everything airport / commercial travel related.

03-21-2022, 12:25 PM	#11
Johnny Dangerr Pope & Young Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Houston Hunt In: FJB	Ugh. Took 90 seconds to drop 30k feet...

03-21-2022, 12:31 PM	#12
sotx Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Hunt In: McMullen County	Not everything we see in the news is a conspiracy for Gods sake.

03-21-2022, 12:36 PM	#14
Oleman Ten Point Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Burnet County Hunt In: Anywhere I can	Suicide???

03-21-2022, 12:51 PM	#18
Artos Pope & Young Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Deep South TX Hunt In: Deep South TX	I don't see how you get 10mins of flight if all engines quit simultaneously on a passenger jet.

03-21-2022, 12:54 PM	#21
sotx Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Hunt In: McMullen County	Its a cabal that has control, deep state flight for sure.

03-21-2022, 01:27 PM	#27
tvc184 Pope & Young Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Golden Triangle	I saw a CNN report that said it initially dropped a little over 4000 feet in three minutes. That is not a rapid drop and sounds like a glide. It was sometime after that when it went vertical.

03-21-2022, 01:30 PM	#28
Walker Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio	Well if it slowed to stall speed it's coming straight down.

03-21-2022, 01:35 PM	#30
Dale Moser Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wise Cty Hunt In: Young Cty	Doesn’t take an FAA investigator to see that that was deliberate… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-21-2022, 01:42 PM	#31
Playa Pope & Young Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lubbock Hunt In: Coleman	This is why I never listen during the safety announcement on airplanes. Figure if it goes down, I’ll lean forward, place my head between my legs and kiss my @ss goodbye!

03-21-2022, 02:16 PM	#34
ORIONTHEHUNTER Four Point Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: SW Colorado	I thought those were only on the MAX? Also if you guys haven't watched the documentary on the previous Boeing crashes on Netflix its worth a watch.

03-21-2022, 03:37 PM	#39
Neck Pope & Young Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Danbury, TX Hunt In: DeWitt County	Yikes, that looks like the wings folded up or fell off. Curious where they will find the engines. Terrible.

03-21-2022, 03:53 PM	#40
NKL Four Point Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Lufkin Hunt In: East Tx, MT, ID	I used to fly all the time andnever think twice. That has changed in recent years… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-21-2022, 05:18 PM	#47
Bluesman Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Hunt In: Retired Bowhunter	I thought this crash was in China!

03-21-2022, 05:31 PM	#48
PYBUCK Pope & Young Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Rankin, Tx Hunt In: Upton County	Didn't the 737 have a malfunction several years back causing the plane to crash headfirst into the swamp. I think the problem was called Rudder Hardover. Anyone remember that? Could that have cause this crash?

03-21-2022, 05:41 PM	#49
DRT Pope & Young Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Hunt In: Jones County and Missouri	I just drink enough in the airport I don't worry about anything. Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk

03-21-2022, 05:42 PM	#50
Killer Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Powderly, TX Hunt In: God's green earth	Wow