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Old 08-17-2020, 01:11 PM   #51
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Amazon truck just showed up. I got the bug for this stuff now. Waiting til Labor Day for this.




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Old 08-17-2020, 01:19 PM   #52
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I wish you had not posted this. Been following for a week or so and now have a lawn inferiority complex. Looking at reel mowers and actually contemplating scalping my bermuda in this heat. The process....
it has cost me some money for **** sure. I wouldn't scalp this late. I scalped my back yard a month ago just to see how it would do... it was awesome. Going to level my yard in the spring. Just sprayed T Nex and chelated iron yesterday, curious to see how that works. Hopefully rain didn't wash it away.



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Old 08-17-2020, 01:34 PM   #53
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I out first round of pre-emergent last week and will do it once more Im about a month or so. Also hit it with a round on fertilizer over the weekend, hopefully rain soaked it in good last night/ this morning.
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it has cost me some money for **** sure. I wouldn't scalp this late. I scalped my back yard a month ago just to see how it would do... it was awesome. Going to level my yard in the spring. Just sprayed T Nex and chelated iron yesterday, curious to see how that works. Hopefully rain didn't wash it away.



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Nah, I was kidding about the scalp but it looks like that's the "in thing" on SLS. I'm very happy with most of my yard right now except for a portion in the back that I'll probably scrape and re-sod next spring. Got nice 419 for about 1/3rd of the back and regular bermuda in the rest of the back struggles. Funny thing is the same grass front and side (large corner lot) is some of the best on my block.
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Old 08-17-2020, 02:44 PM   #55
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Anyone use The Andersons Crabgrass Preventer with 2.5% Balan. Just picked up a bag at my local feed store and it shows to treat poa annua.

Last winter Poa Annua took over my yard and I battled it all spring. Based on my research Po Annua starts to germinate when soil temps drop below 70 degrees. I plan to monitor soil temps and apply just before it hits 70.
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Old 08-17-2020, 06:38 PM   #56
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I lay pre-emerge down every six weeks
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Old 08-17-2020, 06:52 PM   #57
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We just discovered dove weed in our back yard. Looks like some fun stuff. NOT!
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:21 PM   #58
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Is that zoysia?
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Old 08-21-2020, 06:04 PM   #59
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Neil Sperry just said you have 7 days from today to put it out.
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Old 08-21-2020, 09:49 PM   #60
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Neil Sperry just said you have 7 days from today to put it out.
Based on what part of the state?
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Old 01-25-2021, 09:58 AM   #61
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Hitting the lawn again today...................
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Old 01-25-2021, 10:32 AM   #62
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look up Randy Lemmon lawn schedule
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Old 01-25-2021, 11:01 AM   #63
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look up Randy Lemmon lawn schedule
Here it is:

For southern grasses including: St. Augustine, Bermuda and Zoysia

February to Early March (Optional) The Early Green-up! Done with fast-acting 15-5-10 formula. (Preferably Nitro-Phos Imperial 15-5-10)

February to Early March 2-in-1 pre-emergent herbicide (Preferably Barricade or Dimension-based)

March to April (Anytime in spring) Trace mineral supplementation. After years of rains, floods and droughts, we should be adding trace minerals that help fertilizers do their job. Azomite, Soil Mender, Nature's Way Resources and others offer them in bags.

End of March to Early April Spring fertilization with slow- or controlled-release 3-1-2 or 4-1-2 ratios, such as Nitro-Phos Super Turf 19-4-10, Easy Gro Premium 19-5-9, and Fertilome Southwest Greenmaker 18-4-6. Fertilome also has a zero-phosphorus 18-0-6 formula, but it's not widely marketed.

End of April to May 2-in-1 pre-emergent herbicide (Barricade or Dimension-based)

June to Early July Summer fertilization with same slow- or controlled-release fertilizers from spring

August (Optional) Iron supplementation, specifically for those using heavy irrigation and seeing yellowing grass

September (Optional) Fungicide for brownpatch

September to October (Optional) Trace minerals supplementation (Truly helps the upcoming fall feeding)

October Pre-emergent herbicide (Barricade or Dimension-based)

October (Optional) Fungicide for brownpatch

October to November Fall feeding or winterizer (Use ratios with higher-than-normal potassium - the third number - such as Nitro-Phos Fall Special 8-12-16)
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He says now is good..................
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Old 01-25-2021, 11:29 AM   #65
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He says now is good..................
I ordered mine last week and plan on putting it down this weekend. I was a little late on my Fall application and have more Poa Annua and other weeds than last year. Better early than late. Soil temperature is the key.

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Old 01-25-2021, 11:35 AM   #66
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From my understanding is when soil temp is right under 55
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Old 01-25-2021, 11:54 AM   #68
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Lowes had a great sale on preemergent and fertilizer this weekend. Clearance stuff. About 6 bucks a bag for each.

The fertilizer was sold out at my store so I bought weed and feed.

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Old 01-25-2021, 11:55 AM   #69
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What if you lawn is still standing, or squishy. Do you have to wait until it dries out?
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Old 01-25-2021, 12:20 PM   #70
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So per Randy Lemmon, now is time for pre-emergent and can do a 15-5-10 as an early green up fertilizer. Can you do the pre-emergent and fertilizer on the same day or should you spread them out over a couple of weeks?
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Old 01-25-2021, 12:31 PM   #71
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I'm not thrilled with the barricade I laid down for winter. Still seeing a fair amount of clover but not as much as last year. Perhaps my coverage was not good? Since my bermuda is fully dormant I'm just waiting for things to dry out after a week of rain and plan to bust out the roundup sprayer on anything that's green.

Will do Surflan again next month as that absolutely eliminated my sand burrs last summer. This year I will buy extra and spray a few yards into the road/ditch along my property line that our developer barely mows and never sprays. That thing is full of the little boogers.
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Old 01-25-2021, 12:34 PM   #72
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I need to do something this year for the dang grass burrs . They are bad in my inlaws and my yards.
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Old 01-25-2021, 12:36 PM   #73
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I thought it was end of August? Im up north.
for more effectiveness, twice a year. Early spring and Mid Fall.
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Old 01-25-2021, 12:53 PM   #74
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I have what I believe to be Powdery Mildew on my grass. It looks like somebody slung a bottle of baby powder on my yard and the grass in those areas is DEAD, down to the mud. Anybody had good luck treating it? Ive read just baking soda and water but Im usually leery of home remedies.
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I need something that kills weeds already growing. With the mild temps this year the weeds popped up out of nowhere fast.
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Old 01-25-2021, 01:00 PM   #76
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I’m no expert but I did pick up Preen yesterday and will be putting it down this afternoon and then again in about a month. I’ll throw some fertilizer down next time.
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Old 01-25-2021, 01:03 PM   #77
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What would the professionals recommend for a lawn that is nothing but weeds? Kill weeds first then seed or seed first then worry about weeds next year?
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Old 01-25-2021, 01:15 PM   #78
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The problem I have with a lot of these recommendations is they do not consider soil temperatures or soil fertility. Most weed problems can be substantially reduced if the soil fertility was address first. Weeds are a good indicator of poor soil fertility.

For example, if you address the PH level and then fertilize according to recommendations, you can nearly wipe out sandburs. And, with proper PH level, your fertilizer will be more effective.
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all I know is my yard is a mud pit. Its been completely saturated for months. Starting to get worried everything is going to die.


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[QUOTE=Chuy;15429505]all I know is my yard is a mud pit. Its been completely saturated for months. Starting to get worried everything is going to die.

same story over here. I'm ready to put out the pre emer stuff but am thinking it will float downstream....
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Old 01-25-2021, 01:26 PM   #81
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I have a severe Aster problem. Nothing I know kills it and I don't have time to sit and pull them all by hand.
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Old 01-25-2021, 01:58 PM   #82
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What would the professionals recommend for a lawn that is nothing but weeds? Kill weeds first then seed or seed first then worry about weeds next year?


Kill, till and fill (re-sod)


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Old 01-25-2021, 02:12 PM   #83
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FYI per Neil Sperry's FB post today for NORTH TEXAS - don't confuse Houston and Dallas when people start talking about pre-emergent timing.

For North Texas, i do pre-emergent Spring Break and Labor Day with pretty good results.

Neil Sperry

Garden Tip: (I am making this post preemptively, because I know it will only be a matter of time until I'm asked.)
I have heard an ad this morning saying that mid-February is the deadline for applying pre-emergent herbicides in DFW (where I have lived and gardened for 50 years) to control spring weeds.
I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE MESSAGE OF THOSE ADS AT ALL. I think they will confuse home gardeners who intend to make their own pre-emergent applications to prevent germination of crabgrass and grassburs.
The average date for the last killing freeze for DFW is around March 20. Crabgrass and grassburs are both warm-season weeds, which means that they will not germinate until soils are much warmer than they are right now (even with a very mild winter). Proper timing for DFW would be between March 5-15, possibly sliding a few days earlier if it stays unusually warm through February. I've seen years when the application date slides later due to cold weather in February and early March.
But the deadline should not be announced on January 25 as being mid-February. At least not based on anything I have ever seen, heard or experienced. You don't want to apply Dimension, Weed-EX with Halts or Balan pre-emergent granules that far ahead of prime time in DFW where that ad is airing. That is more of a schedule fit for deep South Texas/Gulf Coast.
I support my friends in the professional lawn maintenance industry completely, and I always caution consumers that, "Just because Neil suggests something be done on a given date, homeowners need to give the pros the grace of a little leeway." Professionals have access to different products that behave differently, and they have experience in coping with these issues. We hire them for results, and if the results are good, it doesn't matter if they follow my schedule exactly.
But conversely, they should not advertise dates in a way that will mislead the do-it-yourself public into doing the wrong things or doing them at the wrong times.
Those are my feelings. Perhaps there was something I missed. If there was, I'll post it here. However, I've listened very closely and I don't think I missed anything.
Please keep watching here, watching my e-gardens newsletter, listening to me on the radio, and for those of you in DFW, listening to me on KLIF Saturday afternoons and WBAP Sunday mornings. I'll keep you completely updated on the proper timing for applying pre-emergent granules in the Metroplex (and all of Texas). For DFW, the deadline for that application will definitely NOT be mid-February.
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Old 01-25-2021, 03:37 PM   #84
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I have a severe Aster problem. Nothing I know kills it and I don't have time to sit and pull them all by hand.

Ive killed it with celcius
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Old 01-25-2021, 03:40 PM   #85
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I’ve killed it with celcius
Que?!

Let me google it and see what it is and who carries it...

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Old 01-25-2021, 03:44 PM   #86
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all I know is my yard is a mud pit. Its been completely saturated for months. Starting to get worried everything is going to die.


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Same, not sure what to do.
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Old 01-25-2021, 04:02 PM   #87
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Ive killed it with celcius
well shoot! it's over a hundred dollars for somewhat small container....

I can't even have lawn problems that are cheap to resolve. Everything, from being a left handed to something as simple as lawn weed control costs are as high as Giraffe Nuts when it comes to me.....
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Old 01-25-2021, 05:43 PM   #88
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Kill, till and fill (re-sod)


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Lowes had a great sale on preemergent and fertilizer this weekend. Clearance stuff. About 6 bucks a bag for each.

The fertilizer was sold out at my store so I bought weed and feed.

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Which Lowes in Plano ?
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Great timing yall. Time to get my 2 acres started.
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Old 01-25-2021, 06:38 PM   #91
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Which Lowes in Plano ?
I picked it up in Mckinney at custer and 380

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Read this thread yesterday, and the timing couldn't be better. I just moved into my new house at the end of September. I have a semi-established backyard of bermuda, and I laid St. Augustine sod in mid September in the front.

I didn't have a clue where to begin with things like pre-emergents, fertilizers, etc. until I read this. Thanks to all! I went to my local feed store for the products, and their recommendations were right in line with what is being said here.
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Gonna hit the yard hard this year. First time doing anything other than weed n feed.

That being said, do yall prefer dimension to barricade? Looks like dimension is around $140/bottle which seems pricey.

Also for the first fertilize/pre-emergent application, can those be done at the same time or should they be spread out by a week or two? If spread out, which one goes first- fertilizer or pre-emergent?


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I've learned a ton from watching videos from this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/user/LawnCareMidwest
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Old 01-26-2021, 12:53 PM   #95
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Gonna hit the yard hard this year. First time doing anything other than weed n feed.

That being said, do y’all prefer dimension to barricade? Looks like dimension is around $140/bottle which seems pricey.

Also for the first fertilize/pre-emergent application, can those be done at the same time or should they be spread out by a week or two? If spread out, which one goes first- fertilizer or pre-emergent?


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Pre emergent now. Fertilizer 15-5-10 two weeks later
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Same, not sure what to do.

i dont think theres anything we can do except sharpen the blades on the mower. When the sun comes back out we are going to be some grass cutting mofos


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It's January. I won't even consider until the last week of February or 1st week of March. Weather forecast will decide.
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Old 01-26-2021, 01:14 PM   #98
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all I know is my yard is a mud pit. Its been completely saturated for months. Starting to get worried everything is going to die.

same story over here. I'm ready to put out the pre emer stuff but am thinking it will float downstream....

Im going to do it. Screw it, whats the worst that can happen

:Famous Last Words:

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Old 01-26-2021, 07:20 PM   #99
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I sprayed my whole yard with

Bonide Weed Beater Ultra, the weeds are crazy this year
Then I put down barricade pre-emergent

Ive been following the schedule now
For over a year
I can see on my property line where my efforts are paying off, my yard has lots of weeds but my neighbors is out of control. Im anxious to see how effective this bonfire weed Beater is

Good articles

https://m.facebook.com/GardenLineWit...5857364729930/

https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/gar...ang-weeds-now/


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Old 01-26-2021, 08:42 PM   #100
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My spraying service just showed up today and applied mine. Makes a huge difference and is a big help with weed control year around!
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