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Old 08-03-2020, 06:46 PM   #1
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It is time to start thinking about a Fall pre emergent for your lawn. I put mine down on 8-8-19 last year and followed up with a spring and early summer application. I can tell a big difference in the amount of weeds from the previous year. I used Barricade(Prodiamine) and was very happy with the results. I ordered from www.solutionstores again this year and had it delivered to the front door. The link below is from a while back and covers this topic. Get it early and don`t be late putting it down.

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If I put down pre emergent, I may not have a nothing but dirt next year ��
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When can I plant Bermudagrass seed if I use it? Is it effective on winter weeds and sandburs?
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I thought it was end of August? I’m up north.
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If I put down pre emergent, I may not have a nothing but dirt next year ��
This is what Iím thinking. I just went HAM on the burs this morning and burned and giant pile of them. At this point I feel itís the only way.
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I have an emerge less lawn... I have no grass and the weeds are brown. I use all the water on my trees.
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Old 08-03-2020, 08:26 PM   #9
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Correction...... I put mine down on 9-8-19 last year ..... not 8-8-19. My mistake. You still have 5-6 weeks before you need to put it down.
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Old 08-03-2020, 08:30 PM   #10
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Old 08-03-2020, 09:02 PM   #11
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Thanks for the reminder. I told myself I was going to follow Randy Lemmons schedule for a year or two to see if it made a difference. Started this spring but missed the late fertilizer feeding. Oh well I’ll pick it up again with the fall pre emergent.
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Old 08-03-2020, 09:08 PM   #12
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When can I plant Bermudagrass seed if I use it? Is it effective on winter weeds and sandburs?

The stuff I use for sandburs (surflan)can affect germination for a year. I figure if you can get the burs under control the grass I have might takeoff.


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Old 08-03-2020, 09:30 PM   #13
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Pre-emergent in the fall is a new thing to me. Never heard of it. I've always done it in the spring. Putting down a whole front yard of St Augustine sod down this week. Should I wait until the spring for my normal pre-emergent or hit the new sod in 4-5 weeks with it too?
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Old 08-03-2020, 09:30 PM   #14
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Any idea on how long I should wait if I just laid bermuda sod down 2 weeks ago. Im a little worried that a pre-emergent would be an added stressor given that it’s already close to 100 degrees out during the day.
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Old 08-03-2020, 09:36 PM   #15
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Will pre-emergent harm established trees/shrubs? I have several relatively young trees in my yard and don't wanna killem.
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Old 08-03-2020, 09:36 PM   #16
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Pre-emergent in the fall is a new thing to me. Never heard of it. I've always done it in the spring. Putting down a whole front yard of St Augustine sod down this week. Should I wait until the spring for my normal pre-emergent or hit the new sod in 4-5 weeks with it too?
If it is a broadleaf pre emergent it will kill the St Augustine. Don't do anything to St Augustine without talking to someone at a nursery.
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Old 08-03-2020, 09:37 PM   #17
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Will pre-emergent harm established trees/shrubs? I have several relatively young trees in my yard and don't wanna killem.
Supposed to be better for them than the weed and feed.
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Old 08-03-2020, 09:41 PM   #19
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Pre-emergent in the fall is a new thing to me. Never heard of it. I've always done it in the spring. Putting down a whole front yard of St Augustine sod down this week. Should I wait until the spring for my normal pre-emergent or hit the new sod in 4-5 weeks with it too?
The fall pre emergent is to prevent the spring weeds like clover and the ones that usually burn out by summer. If you forget that one you can spot control the broadleaf weeds. The spring emergent is the one that prevents the crab and Dallas grass which is a pain to get rid off when itís in.
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Old 08-03-2020, 09:43 PM   #20
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If it is a broadleaf pre emergent it will kill the St Augustine. Don't do anything to St Augustine without talking to someone at a nursery.



Thanks....I know it has different requirements than Bermuda but I was thinking I saw a St. Augustine pre-emergent the other day when I was looking. I'll certainly ask now.
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I have bahiagrass taking over one side of my lawn. I’m going to attack with a pre emergent. Does anyone have any recommendations?
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I have bahiagrass taking over one side of my lawn. Iím going to attack with a pre emergent. Does anyone have any recommendations?
I have had good luck with Martin's Topshot! It takes a few weeks to notice, but it works! I don't know of a pre-emergent to kill it...maybe there is one, but I don't know of it that is safe for my Centipede.
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:18 PM   #23
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Not sure what the best is for each type of grass but I will say that I follow the labels to the T. They have a lot of info in them if you read and will tell you want you can and canít use it near.


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Old 08-03-2020, 10:19 PM   #24
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What happened to April, May, Junee and July?!?! We already taking pre emergent?! ****e! Lol

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If I put down pre emergent, I may not have a nothing but dirt next year ��
If all you have is dirt, plant a food plot. I know you can do that !
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:24 PM   #26
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If all you have is dirt, plant a food plot. I know you can do that !

Lol!

I did plant a fall plot in my backyard last year. It did alright considering I planted pretty late and it doesnt get a lot of sun. Iím on 3.5 acres and have saint augustine up around the house thatís good and some centipede out in the front. Majority is green weeds lol


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Old 08-03-2020, 10:51 PM   #27
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If it is a broadleaf pre emergent it will kill the St Augustine. Don't do anything to St Augustine without talking to someone at a nursery.
What?! The San Augustine has already ďemergedĒ so it will not kill the grass. It is only to kill seeds that are sitting there ready to emerge. Do not put it down if you are planning to overseen this winter.

If you are buying new sod, it has already been treated this year. Probably with atrazine in the spring. I wouldnít worry about preemergent until January on fresh sod.
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Old 08-03-2020, 11:16 PM   #28
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I always heard to do nothing but water on new sod for at least 6 months
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Thanks fellas... itís been 22 years since I have thrown new sod .....and Iím lucky to remember what I had for dinner yesterday so thanks for the tips. ....
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I’m still fighting crab grass. Will laying down preemergant in a month and again in early spring knock it out?
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Iím still fighting crab grass. Will laying down preemergant in a month and again in early spring knock it out?


Iím fighting it and canít seem to even make it sick much less kill it
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Iím fighting it and canít seem to even make it sick much less kill it
I smashed it with round up haha. The middle died. The outside grows LOL!
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Use Target 6 for crabgrass. Wipes out sandburs and Dallas grass too. Will also kill San Augustine too, but works really well with Bermudagrass
https://www.solutionsstores.com/msma...plus-herbicide
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I have had good luck with Martin's Topshot! It takes a few weeks to notice, but it works! I don't know of a pre-emergent to kill it...maybe there is one, but I don't know of it that is safe for my Centipede.
Thanks for the info.

So do you just spray it after itís mowed?
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Iím still fighting crab grass. Will laying down preemergant in a month and again in early spring knock it out?
Best bet with crabgrass is spend a little time each evening when things cool off and pull it out by hand before it starts heading out. I got rid of all crabgrass in my previous yard by doing that. Youíd be surprised how much you can pull up in 15-20 minutes. Itís a pain, but itís a sure way to get rid of it.
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Best bet with crabgrass is spend a little time each evening when things cool off and pull it out by hand before it starts heading out. I got rid of all crabgrass in my previous yard by doing that. Youíd be surprised how much you can pull up in 15-20 minutes. Itís a pain, but itís a sure way to get rid of it.
Iíve been trying to avoid that but youíre right lol.
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Iíve been trying to avoid that but youíre right lol.
Grab a beer and try not to think about it 😂
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Grab a beer and try not to think about it 😂
Thatís what I do. I grab a beer and drink it instead of pulling crab grass. Then another.
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For all the timing of pre emergent questions.

If your near Houston I would look at Randy Lemmons schedule.

If your near Dallas I would look at Neil Sperrys.
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Use Target 6 for crabgrass. Wipes out sandburs and Dallas grass too. Will also kill San Augustine too, but works really well with Bermudagrass
https://www.solutionsstores.com/msma...plus-herbicide

I may be mistaken but I believe that MSMA is not labeled for residential turf. Thatís a shame because itís a great herbicide.


Target 6 Plus is a postemergence herbicide for use in cotton, golf courses, sod farms and highway rights of way.


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The stuff I use for sandburs (surflan)can affect germination for a year. I figure if you can get the burs under control the grass I have might takeoff.


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I did Surflan early spring while the bermuda was still dormant and it worked like a champ! My only sand burs this year have been right on the edge of my property where they are growing unchecked in a common area. I think I'll spray that too next year.
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Starting to see a couple brown patch spots popping up? Do guys have any secrets for that? I have put down granule fungicide twice already this year. Brown patch kicked my yards tail last year....

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I saw this on another site. You might save a little money using it.

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I wish you had not posted this. Been following for a week or so and now have a lawn inferiority complex. Looking at reel mowers and actually contemplating scalping my bermuda in this heat. The process....
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Iím still fighting crab grass. Will laying down preemergant in a month and again in early spring knock it out?
Same here, not sure if its crabgrass or dallasgrass but going on a 3 year battle. I started hitting it with Roundup in the center, but its hit or miss on whether or not the full plant dies or not. I bought a gimicky grass puller gizmo and was not strong enough to pull the whole center core out like it claims.
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too early still IMO...
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Starting to see a couple brown patch spots popping up? Do guys have any secrets for that? I have put down granule fungicide twice already this year. Brown patch kicked my yards tail last year....

Thanks Joe
Are you sure it's brown patch and not grubs? I thought brown patch didn't show up until a little cooler temps hit.
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too early still IMO...
You are correct. Just a reminder that it is right around the corner. I put mine out on September 8th last year and will probably do the same this year. Could even wait a little longer but you wait to long and you can miss the window.
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