Mind Blown!!

[TxSon1836]

Maybe he has some Wolverine or Deapool like powers. can just heal himself instantly lol

[mmays113]

That is some kind of crazy. Poor kiddo has probably been losing his mind. At least this should give him some peace of mind to sleep at night.

[JonBoy]

Originally Posted by 44mAG

Only thing I got is that he may have had his head down feeding when shot. When he heard the shot, his head may have gone almost between his two front legs while dipping to push off. This would have pushed his vitals way back, allowing the arrow to still go through both shoulders, but in front of the good stuff. Just a theory.

This is my thought as well. If he really loaded up to run/jump his shoulders (which float with respect to the rib cage) may have been much higher and further forward than the vitals

[Lone_Wolf]

Originally Posted by JonBoy

This is my thought as well. If he really loaded up to run/jump his shoulders (which float with respect to the rib cage) may have been much higher and further forward than the vitals

I think this is possible. Check out these deer jumping the string. Look how far forward the shoulders go when the second deer drops. Good theory.

Deer Jumping The String- Bow Hunting - YouTube

[Lone_Wolf]

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[DRT]

Dull head

Gary

[N.DaWoods]

Originally Posted by Mike D

That looks high and forward to me.


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I wanted to say this but was afraid I'd be crucified by the masses. I think the vitals were just missed. Just my opinion.

[TxAg]

Originally Posted by JonBoy

This is my thought as well. If he really loaded up to run/jump his shoulders (which float with respect to the rib cage) may have been much higher and further forward than the vitals

+1

[flywise]

Too far forward and high.....but I'm sure that was said already.

[Sika]

So much for the "deadly V"..lol

[Longue Carabine]

It's not high enough to be in the void

[Wayspr]

Originally Posted by adam_p

A field point should kill with that shot placement

This

[sotx]

Originally Posted by Sika

So much for the "deadly V"..lol

I hope he gets this buck this week. I just gotta know. I mean obviously no vitals were hit, but my gosh that looks like a dead deer shot in those pictures. Hell he has a video on his cell phone of the kill shot. That night we went over and over that video and were convinced this buck was dead. Just amazing. Personally if I hadn’t seen these pics I would not believe it.


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[gatt40]

Interesting. Hope you get another chance at him

[FLASH_OUTDOORS]

Originally Posted by 44mAG

Only thing I got is that he may have had his head down feeding when shot. When he heard the shot, his head may have gone almost between his two front legs while dipping to push off. This would have pushed his vitals way back, allowing the arrow to still go through both shoulders, but in front of the good stuff. Just a theory.

This makes perfect sense


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[LFD2037]

Originally Posted by Mike D

That looks high and forward to me.


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Agree, especially in the 2nd pic. He's probably limping pretty good.

[bossbowman]

Originally Posted by Longue Carabine

It's not high enough to be in the void

Keep telling yourself it exists

[Skinny]

Vitals missed. Easy.

[BDKeeling]

Dull blades on the broadhead!


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[BDKeeling]

Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

It was sharp enough to be a complete pass through

You can pass a field point through but it wont cause enough bleeding to finish that deer off.


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[DRT]

It's funny how folks don't understand how import a shaving sharp broadhead is.

Gary

[LeanMachine]

I hear folks all the time talk about how "tough" critters are. There is nothing tough about any of them if you cut through enough of their vascular system. Nothing is tough without adequate oxygen being transported to the brain.

Shot looks good. Obviously the blades did not deploy and not much of significance was cut or torn. Sucks.

[bowhunt3]

Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

Yep right in the void!

X2

[Paycheck]

I don't know.

[Sika]

Originally Posted by sotx

I hope he gets this buck this week. I just gotta know. I mean obviously no vitals were hit, but my gosh that looks like a dead deer shot in those pictures. Hell he has a video on his cell phone of the kill shot. That night we went over and over that video and were convinced this buck was dead. Just amazing. Personally if I hadn’t seen these pics I would not believe it.


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Our friend hit a doe in the "sweet spot" of the highly touted deadly v over Thanksgiving. She went pretty far. No blood trail. Luckily the dog found her. He barely nicked the front of the lung. A half inch forward and we wouldn't have recovered her at all.

I'm in favor of the average bowhunter aiming for a spot on a broadside or quartering away whitetail that gives him the highest probability of making a lethal and recoverable shot, while minimizing the risk of hitting the scapula, brisket or leg.

No argument from me...the ">" is an extremely lethal shot. Especially on larger game and certain species where the vitals are higher up in the body but the margin for error is smaller with that shot. It's easy for the deer to be turned a certain way or his leg position to be slightly forward or back that can alter the perceived aiming point. Same can happen when aiming for the crease behind the shoulder but the kill zone is larger. Worst case scenario, you get back of lung, liver, or paunch and it's still recoverable.

I'm not a fan of shooting them "in the shoulder" with a bow but that's just me. Gun is a different story.

[Mike D]

Originally Posted by Longue Carabine

It's not high enough to be in the void

What void?


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[LeanMachine]

Originally Posted by Mike D

What void?


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The mythical void that gets blames when people make a bad shot....basically.

There is a long held belief that there is a gap between the lungs and the spine. There is not. That is not how breathing works. People do not realize how low the spine is and shoot over it and blame it on the void. That is not the case in this scenario.

[sweldo73]

Originally Posted by Mike D

What void?

You know, the one that doesn't exist in their anatomy.

[coop2564]

zombie buck!

[coop2564]

Originally Posted by sweldo73

You know, the one that doesn't exist in their anatomy.

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They do have lobes, maybe it slipped or just nicked that interface between the lobes.

[adam_p]

Originally Posted by DRT

It's funny how folks don't understand how import a shaving sharp broadhead is.

Gary

It's funny how people don't understand how pneumothorax works.

[Leon County Slayer]

Originally Posted by adam_p

It's funny how people don't understand how pneumothorax works.

Exactly what I was thinking! After I looked up that crazy word. Still think it’s a Super Fluke!

[adam_p]

Originally Posted by Leon County Slayer

Exactly what I was thinking! After I looked up that crazy word. Still think it’s a Super Fluke!

Something weird happened but it wasn't do to a dull broadhead.

[ttaxidermy]

Originally Posted by Lone_Wolf

I think this is possible. Check out these deer jumping the string. Look how far forward the shoulders go when the second deer drops. Good theory.
Deer Jumping The String- Bow Hunting - YouTube

She is clearly Shooting way high in that video..
The arrow is past the deer, over its back, before it ever gets close to the center of the projected circle.. She was shooting high by 10"-12". The bow was not the issue.. Shooting skills were the issue..

[bps3040]

Originally Posted by Mike D

That looks high and forward to me.


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This

[sotx]

So this buck I killed two years ago, he was a 7 year old buck. In the trail cam pictures you can see a white dot on either side of his body. After I killed him I inspected these areas to find a three blade broad head scar. The wound was old at least over a year old. Void?







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[flywise]

Originally Posted by sotx

So this buck I killed two years ago, he was a 7 year old buck. In the trail cam pictures you can see a white dot on either side of his body. After I killed him I inspected these areas to find a three blade broad head scar. The wound was old at least over a year old. Void?







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Nothing in that area that will kill them.
Saw one several years ago with an arrow just below those scars with the arrow still in him and he was full speed chasing does

[sweldo73]

Originally Posted by sotx

So this buck I killed two years ago, he was a 7 year old buck. In the trail cam pictures you can see a white dot on either side of his body. After I killed him I inspected these areas to find a three blade broad head scar. The wound was old at least over a year old. Void?

Refer to the image I posted above. The previous shot on that buck was most likely above the spine, so primarily damaged backstrap and nothing vital.

[breederbuck33]

Originally Posted by sweldo73

Refer to the image I posted above. The previous shot on that buck was most likely above the spine, so primarily damaged backstrap and nothing vital.

Correct.

[sweldo73]

Originally Posted by coop2564

They do have lobes, maybe it slipped or just nicked that interface between the lobes.

Not likely. The lungs are in a vacuum chamber within the chest, so while there are lobes separating parts of each lung there's not really any space between them in the chest.

[DuramaxDude]

crazy

[SwampRabbit]

If that was a 3D foam deer, I'd give it to you. IMO Too high of a spot to aim with a bow. Great rifle shot entry/exit.

My guess, based on the 2 holes I think I am supposed to be looking at and the fact that it is still alive is a completely ducked/loaded deer who has both shoulders load high up and forward with your arrow passing through where the backstrap meets the neck muscle.

next time you have a warm dead deer on the skinning rack, take both shoulders and roll them forward and you can see the alignment I am talking about. Remember, the shoulder isn't actually physically attached to the animal by another bone... just ligaments and muscle... it is what makes them ninjas!!!

[Lone_Wolf]

Originally Posted by ttaxidermy

She is clearly Shooting way high in that video..
The arrow is past the deer, over its back, before it ever gets close to the center of the projected circle.. She was shooting high by 10"-12". The bow was not the issue.. Shooting skills were the issue..

the point of the video was to show how far forward the shoulders move in relation to the chest when the deer drop at the sound of the shot.....still doesn't explain a sucking chest wound on both sides if in fact there is a hole in the chest cavity, the lungs should collapse.

[meltingfeather]

Let me guess... Rage?

[Lone_Wolf]

Deer has crazy weird anatomy or photoshop prank.....guys saying it's to high and forward, i'm not seeing it.

[sotx]

Well he’s headed to the blind this morning hope he gets him.


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[bloodtrailer28]

Good luck

[12ring]

Originally Posted by N.DaWoods

I wanted to say this but was afraid I'd be crucified by the masses. I think the vitals were just missed. Just my opinion.

Yup, looks too far forward to me as well.

Good luck getting on him again.

D.

[Raypo]

Very bizarre.

[Johnny_Dodson]

Looks touch high and a touch a couple inches forward. My guess above the heart and ahead of the lungs, luckily for the deer missed any arteries. Could of killed him but 1/100000 shot that just missed anything vital.


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