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Old 12-05-2018, 07:41 PM   #1
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Default A New Action from APR - Round 2

I said we were working on some other things last week when I posted the carbon fiber barrel stuff. Well, this is one of those things Meet the new APR G2 action.

I posted the info on the APR Hunter action a while back. The quick backstory(if that's even possible with one of my posts) is that we found a suitable, and affordable replacement for factory donor actions for those doing custom builds. Thompson Leh owns the current production for the old Ed Brown 704 action design. We evaluated it, worked with them to make some changes that we felt worked better for our uses, and went in to production. It has been a great platform for hunting based builds, which is what we intended it to be.

We started getting orders for tactical/LR builds on them immediately, along with requests for other features that it didn't currently have. While the Hunter works in this application, it is not a standout choice. We compiled a list of features that made it better in this role and circled back with TL to see if we could do a gen 2 version. Once again, they were awesome to work with and did an outstanding job over the last couple of months helping us get them implemented. This is the result.





APR HUNTER ACTION FEATURES:
- Remington 700 Footprint
- Controlled Round Feed
- Mechanical Ejector
- One Piece bolt
- 8x40 Scope Base Holes
- Tool-less Fire Control Removal
- Accepts any Remington 700 Style Trigger
- Side Bolt-Stop Release
- Oversize Bolt Knob
- Spiral Fluted Bolt
NEW UPGRADES FOR APR GEN II ACTION:
- 1 1/16 x 20 TPI Threads (Now accepts Savage Style Pre-fit Bbls)
- Wire EDM Raceways for more uniform tolerances and smoother Cycling
- Pinned 20 MOA Rail for more secure scope mounting
- Smaller Ejection Port Cut-Out for a More Rigid Action Body
- .062 Firing Pin to accommodate SRP brass
- Full DLC Coating for More Corrosion Protection and Smoother Operation.
- Double Pinned .250 Recoil Lug
Available in standard and magnum short action, and magnum long action configurations.

MSRP is $825

We are running a pre-order sale price of $749 on our website through 1-15-19.

We are really excited about this newest addition and the flexibility it brings. It provides our customers with solid, affordable custom action options for hunting AND tactical builds. There are a ton of great custom actions to build on out there these days, and we use most of them regularly with great satisfaction. However there are not a ton of great choices for the folks trying to build on a custom action in the sub 1k price range. But the good news is there are at least 2 more now, and we expect to see more in the future based on what the industry is doing now.

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Old 12-05-2018, 07:45 PM   #2
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Dang Robert...I want one, just don't know what to build.
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:52 PM   #3
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Any left handed available?
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Dang Robert...I want one, just don't know what to build.
If you don't mind going the pre-fit route, you could build SEVERAL things off of it I'm really looking forward to running some BR case based stuff through one. I think they will feed great with the hybrid CRF setup. I'm thinking a Dasher truck gun is in my future
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Any left handed available?
Not on the first run.......but they ARE in the works and NOT far behind
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Well crap this is gonna cost me some money
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If you don't mind going the pre-fit route, you could build SEVERAL things off of it I'm really looking forward to running some BR case based stuff through one. I think they will feed great with the hybrid CRF setup. I'm thinking a Dasher truck gun is in my future
Well I like the pinned lug...yeah, guess I could go for broke & go for a switch bbl?? Makes my head spin trying to figure this one out.
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I just seen these yesterday. No long actions with a standard bolt face?
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I just seen these yesterday. No long actions with a standard bolt face?
Not at the moment for the G2. If we get enough interest to justify them, we can add them to the lineup pretty quickly. Outside of the odd 6.5-284 request, and an occasional 280AI, we don't get many calls for this style of action aimed towards the heavy builds. We do have the APR Hunter available in that configuration and build quite a few of the standard long action rounds on them.
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8/40 screws, pinned lug and pinned rail...I like it. What's the lead time on these Robert? Also, do you think there will be an option later for a .470 bolt face in a long action?
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8/40 screws, pinned lug and pinned rail...I like it. What's the lead time on these Robert? Also, do you think there will be an option later for a .470 bolt face in a long action?
Pre-orders will deliver around the end of January. We plan to keep them as an in-stock item moving forward after that.
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Glad to see APR is expanding, any chance ya'll start building on Tikka actions in the future Robert?
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Glad to see APR is expanding, any chance ya'll start building on Tikka actions in the future Robert?
Thanks Droptine. We've done quite a few Tikkas lately. Just finished up a really neat carbon/carbon build on one that turned out awesome. If you have a donor you want to use, we'd be glad to help.
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Talked to Jimmie for a few yesterday (hard to beat that guy, super fella). He remembered the 338 y’all built way back for me so we Bs’d about that for a few and I’ll have a copy of my FFL over with orders for at least 2, maybe more, for the January lot. Can’t wait to get my paws on em. If a long action in a standard .470 BF comes available please let us know.
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Talked to Jimmie for a few yesterday (hard to beat that guy, super fella). He remembered the 338 yíall built way back for me so we Bsíd about that for a few and Iíll have a copy of my FFL over with orders for at least 2, maybe more, for the January lot. Canít wait to get my paws on em. If a long action in a standard .470 BF comes available please let us know.
Thanks KCK! We all remember that build, and Jason even commented how he remembers working with you on it and how he enjoyed working with you on that project. I think you are going to like working with these actions. Tenon cuts are dead simple.
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What happened to Legendary Arms Works with this action? They made some fine looking guns but a bunch wouldn't shoot accurately. Did they use crappy barrels? Ed Brown had a great reputation. Has the Winchester style safety been done away with?
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Not on the first run.......but they ARE in the works and NOT far behind
*Tear* Us poor left out lefties.
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Nooooo!!! Not this time Mitch. You didn't get left out, I promise Your stuff is just more complicated, so it's taking a little longer
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One thing I forgot to mention that is kind of cool about these actions, is that we will have custom sized cocking pieces(how long will that go unnoticed) available that will let you time to your individual trigger at home without having to file or machine anything. I figure a lot of folks will be doing the home build thing with these.

I threw together a kind of simulated home build this morning just for grins. I used a McGowan Savage pre-fit barrel, KRG Bravo Chassis and Trigger Tech Diamond trigger and it turned out awesome. And other than a $30 action wrench and a $15 barrel nut, its something that just about anyone can do at home with common tools in about 30 minutes. I think this will open up some opportunities for guys to do there own thing.
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Could you post a better pic of how much of the lug is cut for the extractor? Any concerns with having uneven lug pressure?


I've been looking for an action to build another for fun LR setup. How do you feel these compare to the other custom actions? I'm particularly interested in timing and bolt lift effort.
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:05 PM   #21
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Here's the "home build" I mentioned. It is on a Bighorn, but the same methods and tooling are required.


On a different note, the Arca rail attachment for the Bravo chassis rocks....
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Could you post a better pic of how much of the lug is cut for the extractor? Any concerns with having uneven lug pressure?


I've been looking for an action to build another for fun LR setup. How do you feel these compare to the other custom actions? I'm particularly interested in timing and bolt lift effort.

Front of lug is relieved for extractor. Not really concerned with uneven lug pressure as the load is placed on the back of the lugs, where the surfaces are square to the lug seats. It is a time proven design from a strength standpoint, and if anything is actually stronger now with the material added to the opposing lug. Its a 90 degree setup, so bolt lift is pretty light and smooth already. The DLC just adds lubricity to that characteristic. Overall tolerances are significantly tighter than a Remington, and about as tight as you would want to go on an action seeing field use.
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Thanks for the pic. I can see now that the lug is longer than a normal 700 and flexing of the cut lug shouldn't be a concern. I've done a few home builds myself and have a understanding of how a bolt action works. What I'm looking for is a action that is less likely to upset the bag when cycling. When you get a chance, would you mind using a trigger scale and seeing how much force it takes to lift the bolt with the firing pin dropped?
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What happened to Legendary Arms Works with this action? They made some fine looking guns but a bunch wouldn't shoot accurately. Did they use crappy barrels? Ed Brown had a great reputation. Has the Winchester style safety been done away with?
I remember that time frame, and the reported accuracy issues that were popping up. Seems like bedding was a common fix/complaint. I can't say if the action itself played a role or not. I will say, and stated on here before when we launched the Hunter version, that the original action I evaluated was made to the specs as requested by them. It was not one that I would have run based on that evaluation. We worked with the actual manufacturer and re-spec'd the areas of concern and now it will compare favorably with most others out there. One of the areas was the 3 position safety you mention. There were several reasons we pulled away from it. They may still indeed make it for other models, but we did not want it on ours.
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It looks like the action is threaded for Savage large shank. Is that true? Will a small shank one be offered?
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It looks like the action is threaded for Savage large shank. Is that true? Will a small shank one be offered?
Sorry, it looks like 1 1/6-20 is small shank according to https://www.americanrifle.com/produc...d-bolt-action/

the midway description reads like 1 1/16-20 is large shank.
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It’s small shank
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I got one ordered up the other day. This is my first dance with a higher end action and I'm really looking forward to firing up the music!!
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If anybody questions this build, action, anything, should probably build a full specked out custom for $5,000.

This rifle will ROCK as it is built. Robert aint selling no crap here. His name is on it..you can expect a shootin SOB !!!
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Nice work on the collaborative effort on this action Robert!

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First batch of G2's showed up today. Long actions today.


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That's a sexy beast!
I hope to have you build me one someday.
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First batch of G2's showed up today. Long actions today.


Is that barrel nut going to be on the 2019 tier 2 group build?
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Is that barrel nut going to be on the 2019 tier 2 group build?
No, it's not figured in that build. Standard shouldered barrel. If somebody wants to go that direction, I'm sure we could accommodate it.
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Other than looking bad a**, any other benefits to that barrel nut?
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Wow... Hopefully I can sell my rifle soon, if I do expect a email ASAP!
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That nut allows for a "switch barrel" system on that action. Also, allows a person at home a cheaper rebarrel then a shouldered barrel does. For a better understanding, google "bugholes bugnutz". I have no idea what brand of nut APR uses but the concept is the same.
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Other than looking bad a**, any other benefits to that barrel nut?
Access to a big supply of savage pattern pre-fit barrels and the option of changing your own barrels at home.
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I have no idea what brand of nut APR uses but the concept is the same.
That's our own concept that should clear most stock inlets. The wrench for it is not completely enclosed like the traditional versions. It will allow a barrel swap without having to remove your scope.
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No, it's not figured in that build. Standard shouldered barrel. If somebody wants to go that direction, I'm sure we could accommodate it.


How much extra in the cost you think?


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That's our own concept that should clear most stock inlets. The wrench for it is not completely enclosed like the traditional versions. It will allow a barrel swap without having to remove your scope.
. I wasn't aware that you had this nut system.
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. I wasn't aware that you had this nut system.
Just seemed weird making a post about our nuts
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How much extra in the cost you think?


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About $50. Nut is DLC coated and will come with the wrench.
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Just seemed weird making a post about our nuts
It's more weird suggesting someone look up "bugholes bugnutz"!!!
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It's more weird suggesting someone look up "bugholes bugnutz"!!!
You have a point!
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Looks and feels great!
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So are the lefties in long action available yet?


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I got confused, is this the action for the rifles we just ordered?
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I got confused, is this the action for the rifles we just ordered?
If you ordered a Tier 2, yes it comes with this action. The Tier 1 comes with the APR Hunter.
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