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Old 05-19-2019, 11:48 AM   #1
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We've been practicing hitting small, almost undetectable aimpoints on flat paper lately. Now, let's hit an unseen aimpoint on the backside of a three-dimensional target. Think small, quartering-away pig.

Best idea I've got to do this and measure as a competition is to use a 1-gallon milk jug (or a large plastic soda or similar bottle). The bottle will be placed on its side at a hard-quartering angle to the shot line (filled with water, with a little food coloring). Make a + (plus sign) on the "back" side of the bottle at the spot you think the arrow should exit for a 45-degree amount of quartering. Take a picture of the "before" set-up, showing the location of the + to post along with the "after" measurement shots.

Shoot one arrow (first shot of day) from a seated or kneeling stance (one or two knees) from 12 yards (7 for kids). You are shooting at a bottle placed at about 45-degrees, relative to your shooting line. You are trying to hit that + sign on the back of the jug. Measure nearest side of arrow shaft to center of + sign. You may try this on two different days. Tie-breaker would go to the best Day 1 effort.

The winner of the next call will be the one with the lowest measured distance of nearest part of arrow shaft to the center of the + sign. The water helps provide stability for the target at impact and the resulting level line is mainly instructive to help us actually see what angle helps us hit an offside target spot.

I'll add a pic or two of my set-up shortly.

Late Edit: Just occurred to me that this could a fun challenge to shoot with hunting broadheads. So feel free to use fieldpoints or broadheads. After all, we're trying to simulate a hunting shot. Measure the same from shaft to +. The broadheads will just make a better hole for the colored water to drain from.

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Old 05-19-2019, 12:09 PM   #2
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Here's my set-up. You can see black + in top view as well as angle shown from top and front. (Note that I tried to get the "cleanest " side as the front.) Last picture just shows my finger pointing at about where I think I'll need to hit.




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Old 05-19-2019, 12:39 PM   #3
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Don't forget to take the "before" picture showing the + location at the back of bottle, for posting along with the "after" measuring photos.

Have fun, good luck, y'all!
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Old 05-19-2019, 12:58 PM   #4
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Note Late Edit above in OP, allowing (encouraging) using your hunting broadhead for this challenge. Makes a better hole for colored water to drain out of. Still measure shaft to +. Just makes it more of a hunting shot -- not required, though. Use fieldpoint or broadhead.
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Old 05-19-2019, 04:25 PM   #5
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Darn, the city picked up my recycling yesterday!! Can i do the same with a small cardboard box or would that be a DQ?
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Old 05-19-2019, 04:45 PM   #6
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Darn, the city picked up my recycling yesterday!! Can i do the same with a small cardboard box or would that be a DQ?
Sure. In fact, I have called similar three-dimensional challenges using a cardboard box. You grasp the principle. It's just more fun to watch the water pour out and also compare the visible elevation difference between shaft entry and water line.

Just show the "before" shot of "+" location along with measurement pics. Also, you can try it on two days, in case you finish off another container this week.
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Old 05-19-2019, 06:32 PM   #7
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Okay, y'all. I held off shooting till Koepka held on to win PGA. Here's my Day 1 shot (probably only one) . 1"

Thought it would be cool to video with phone as well.



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Old 05-19-2019, 06:36 PM   #8
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Heck. Have to work on video. Tapatalk says file too large to post.

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Old 05-19-2019, 07:10 PM   #9
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Uploaded to YouTube as "Milk jug arrow shot"

Can go to YouTube and search that title if it doesn't show up here.

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Old 05-19-2019, 07:27 PM   #10
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Here is my attempt for the day, 2 3/4 high. Need to practice
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Old 05-19-2019, 08:11 PM   #11
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Not bad, Jonny!

Let me just remind all that POSTING A 'BEFORE' picture of the jug/bottle/box, showing where the "+" sign is is part of the challenge. I don't really want to spell out the reason for this.
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Old 05-19-2019, 08:38 PM   #12
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Old 05-19-2019, 10:35 PM   #13
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There ya go! Thank's Jonny.

Definitely understand about challenges posting pics or videos-- have spent hours lately editing and trying to post videos of son's pitching on various platforms.
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:39 AM   #14
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Fun and applicable target TT.
I did this a week or so ago with my boy...enticed him to step away from the air gun. After a few warm up shots he was thwackin the bottle on every shot. Im going to get him in on this target.
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:07 PM   #15
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i shot it again, but didn't improve much. Still just over two inches off target. Would definitely do the trick on a hog though!
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:07 PM   #16
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i shot it again, but didn't improve much. Still just over two inches off target. Would definitely do the trick on a hog though!
Glad to have you joining in, Jonny! Really, you hit on exactly the point of this and many challenges -- will it KILL?!? Like the Forged in Fire guy. If the answer is "yes", then this helped.
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Old 05-24-2019, 09:27 AM   #17
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I shot yesterday. Darn if I didnt get a phone call during setup and forgot to take pic of preshot target. Ill get another shot in today.

An 1" or so.
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:45 AM   #18
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Great shot, Briar ..... buuuut, you're killin me Smalls.

I took a Day 2 shot, since set-up was still in place. Also shot from one-knee stance, this time with fieldtip.

Here's pics. Same jug as before, so "before" pic shows Day 1 hole above "+". Shot is lower than first, but right about 1-1/2". Not an improvement, so didn't measure.


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Old 05-24-2019, 05:17 PM   #19
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1st attempt, and first shot this week.

May try it again tomorrow, if I can scrounge up another jug.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1hYk...ature=youtu.be

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Old 05-24-2019, 05:23 PM   #20
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I sure wish they would fix the video embedding here, then leave it alone.

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Real nice shot. Rick!

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Real nice shot. Rick!

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And, really, no reason not to re-use same jug, if you want.

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Old 05-25-2019, 12:42 AM   #23
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Somewhere between 13/16” and 7/8” in the waning light of my birthday. Sorry pics arent better.
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HBD. Belated.

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Old 05-25-2019, 12:59 PM   #25
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Thanks Gary. I hope the hunt went well.

I found this target shoot to be a great demonstration of the importance of pass throughs on fluid loss. When I shot completely through the bottle...it drains rapidly. When the arrow goes through but doesnt pass through because of backstop closeness, the shaft arrow acts as a cork and the water stays put and barely seeps out. Overall, really a no brainer but a great emphasizer to me of the benefit of passthrough shots on meaty vessels full of blood.
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Two feet of snow and hibernating bears. Very boring. But yes, two holes better than one and s big hole drains better. A wide cut two blade of a good three blade.

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But the beer was easy to keep cold.

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But the beer was easy to keep cold.

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^^^Was that the bear hunt report you just snuck in?
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Congrats to Briar Friar! Post us a good one for the coming week!
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My boy got close to the bottle on his first shot from 7 yds. It took about 8 shots until he hit it. Lots of whooping and high fives ensued...and bottle squeezin.
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Good stuff Briar.

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