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Old 02-06-2019, 09:39 PM   #251
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:26 PM   #252
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Standard SAAMI spec is "zero"freebore. I have seen plenty of folks running 215's in SAAMI chambers successfully. All factory loads will be set up to run in that chamber, so you can be confident it will work. That said, I do have a reamer set up with .187" freebore specifically for the heavies, but I can't guarantee it will work with an un-modified mag box.
One of the guns I was hoping to order out of this build is a 300wm tier 1. my plan would be to shoot 215 out of it for some long range hunting. Are you thinking it probably won't work without an extended mag box? How long can you run in the stock one? Thanks!
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Old 02-07-2019, 02:39 AM   #253
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Will most likely call tomorrow or Friday and order a 280ai since I’ve been kicking it around for several years now
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Old 02-07-2019, 06:28 AM   #254
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7mm PRC.....think I'll wait on it!
150 gr ELD-x for deer and heavier stuff for bigger critters
Are you speculating or did you hear something solid?
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Old 02-07-2019, 08:32 AM   #255
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Are you speculating or did you hear something solid?

Pure speculation....we already have the 6.5 and 300, so a 7mm is bound to happen. Especially since the 7 wsm seems to be dead or soon will be.
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Old 02-07-2019, 09:31 AM   #256
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On the 20Ē barrels what other choices are good that maintain velocity like the 7mm-08?

I like the 7mm-08. So if needing a 5th person Iíd be in.

I want to go suppressed also. So the 20 inch sounds good.

Where go you look to see what calibers are available in 20 inch?
I would think most calibers that are based off a 308 case would work fine in like .243, 260, 7mm-08, .308. Also the 6.5 creedmoor, .223. I would guess anything that uses a case that holds 50 grains of powder or less would probably be OK.
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:15 AM   #257
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I ordered a 24" Proof, .22 Creedmoor. I guess I'll be the TBH guinea pig on this one....

I will be shooting it suppressed, "can" is still in Government jail, should be here about the time my rifle is ready.

Scope and rings ordered yesterday , in transit,

Have brass and custom Redding Dies here, 1000 Federal 205 Match

Now just try and forget about it
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:49 AM   #258
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I ordered a 24" Proof, .22 Creedmoor. I guess I'll be the TBH guinea pig on this one....

I will be shooting it suppressed, "can" is still in Government jail, should be here about the time my rifle is ready.

Scope and rings ordered yesterday , in transit,

Have brass and custom Redding Dies here, 1000 Federal 205 Match

Now just try and forget about it
Who did you get the dies from?
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:53 AM   #259
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I ordered a 24" Proof, .22 Creedmoor. I guess I'll be the TBH guinea pig on this one....

I will be shooting it suppressed, "can" is still in Government jail, should be here about the time my rifle is ready.

Scope and rings ordered yesterday , in transit,

Have brass and custom Redding Dies here, 1000 Federal 205 Match

Now just try and forget about it
Also which can are you going to run? (Is there a .22 can rated for 22CM? I know mine aren't )
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Old 02-07-2019, 11:07 AM   #260
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SilencerCo Omega 300 Titanium, .30 cal
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Old 02-07-2019, 11:13 AM   #261
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Dies were from Accurate Arms.com, they have Redding make them in .22 creed. I found Alpha brass at Alphamunitions, had to go small rifle primer but no biggie. I have some Hornady brass on back order at Midway

besides being a really neat cartridge, I think this year we will see allot more people jumping on the bandwagon, just like the other Creedmoor cartridges, everyone waits to see if it as bad *** as everyone says, then , you cant get any components.

We'll see, I could have done a .22-.250 A.I. but I'm a Creedmoor junkie. get a LONG 90gr bullet haulin ***, should be great for P.dogs to Whitetail

REALLY great bullets coming out now, my first test will be with 80.5 gr Bergers, 80 matchkings and the brand new Hammer 84gr missile
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Old 02-07-2019, 12:34 PM   #262
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I ordered a 24" Proof, .22 Creedmoor. I guess I'll be the TBH guinea pig on this one....

I will be shooting it suppressed, "can" is still in Government jail, should be here about the time my rifle is ready.

Scope and rings ordered yesterday , in transit,

Have brass and custom Redding Dies here, 1000 Federal 205 Match

Now just try and forget about it
No guinea pig at all. There's another TBH'r that has one and that's a more than proven cartridge design. Like I said earlier, it's so close to the 22-250AI it's scary and no fire forming required. I built mine for I had heard of a 22-Creed or it would have been on my list as well.
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:35 PM   #263
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Also which can are you going to run? (Is there a .22 can rated for 22CM? I know mine aren't )
You may want to double check your suppressor. Mine is a Phantom QD .30 cal that is rated for any jacketed round .30 cal or under. The issue with mine and .22 bullets is not the diameter, but that a common .22 (.22lr) is not jacketed and the suppressor could get fouled with lead. Maybe yours is the same. If so, you could shoot jacketed 22s. Just a thought.

I just realized you may be referring to a can designed to shoot rimfire and its inability to handle centerfire 22s.
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:46 PM   #264
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No guinea pig at all. There's another TBH'r that has one and that's a more than proven cartridge design. Like I said earlier, it's so close to the 22-250AI it's scary and no fire forming required. I built mine for I had heard of a 22-Creed or it would have been on my list as well.
I had APR build me a .22 Creedmoor last year just don't have dies for it yet. Custom Reloads of Dallas has kept me in ammo.
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:49 PM   #265
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i know Chad well. Copper Creek stocks ammo but very expensive
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:51 PM   #266
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I just realized you may be referring to a can designed to shoot rimfire and its inability to handle centerfire 22s.
Yep. I use a .30 can on a .223 - just hadn't seen a centerfire-dedicated .22 specific can.
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Old 02-07-2019, 02:04 PM   #267
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Dies were from Accurate Arms.com, they have Redding make them in .22 creed. I found Alpha brass at Alphamunitions, had to go small rifle primer but no biggie. I have some Hornady brass on back order at Midway

besides being a really neat cartridge, I think this year we will see allot more people jumping on the bandwagon, just like the other Creedmoor cartridges, everyone waits to see if it as bad *** as everyone says, then , you cant get any components.

We'll see, I could have done a .22-.250 A.I. but I'm a Creedmoor junkie. get a LONG 90gr bullet haulin ***, should be great for P.dogs to Whitetail

REALLY great bullets coming out now, my first test will be with 80.5 gr Bergers, 80 matchkings and the brand new Hammer 84gr missile
Thanks Buzz!! (I'm snake oil on THF)
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Old 02-07-2019, 02:46 PM   #268
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Did anyone that went with the 6.5 PRC go with anything shorter than a 24” barrel?
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Old 02-07-2019, 03:35 PM   #269
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Did anyone that went with the 6.5 PRC go with anything shorter than a 24Ē barrel?
I'm going 24" when I order next week.
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Old 02-07-2019, 03:43 PM   #270
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Nope. 24" steel with 6.5 prc

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Old 02-07-2019, 04:12 PM   #271
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Old 02-07-2019, 04:30 PM   #272
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Tomorrow is the cut-off to place your rifle order

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Old 02-07-2019, 04:33 PM   #273
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Ordering period will open @10:00am on Tuesday, Jan 29th and close at 6:00pm on Friday, Feb 15th.
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Old 02-07-2019, 04:34 PM   #274
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Feb 15th is the cut off. You're a week early...
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Old 02-07-2019, 04:35 PM   #275
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Post #2 says Friday, Feb 15th. Did something change? Don't scare me!
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:25 PM   #277
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I ordered a 24" Proof, .22 Creedmoor. I guess I'll be the TBH guinea pig on this one....

I will be shooting it suppressed, "can" is still in Government jail, should be here about the time my rifle is ready.

Scope and rings ordered yesterday , in transit,

Have brass and custom Redding Dies here, 1000 Federal 205 Match

Now just try and forget about it
You and me both, I went 22". Kinda worried I went too short but trying to keep it handy since I'll have a can on it 100% of the time. There's a ton of guys shooting 22 creedmoor and have been the last couple years. This past year it's really taken off for the predator hunting crowd, a few of my friends shoot it.
What twist did you go with?

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Old 02-07-2019, 06:15 PM   #278
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Old 02-07-2019, 07:22 PM   #279
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Ordered my .300 Win Mag today!! Canít wait to get it on the range!!!
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You and me both, I went 22". Kinda worried I went too short but trying to keep it handy since I'll have a can on it 100% of the time. There's a ton of guys shooting 22 creedmoor and have been the last couple years. This past year it's really taken off for the predator hunting crowd, a few of my friends shoot it.
What twist did you go with?
This is true. I run 7.7 twist bartlein. Loves 75gr pills and have some 60 gr v Maxís loaded that shoot well also but shoot the 75s religiously. Itís hell on all south Texas animals. And fun to to ring steel at distance. Youíre gunna love yours.
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This is true. I run 7.7 twist bartlein. Loves 75gr pills and have some 60 gr v Maxís loaded that shoot well also but shoot the 75s religiously. Itís hell on all south Texas animals. And fun to to ring steel at distance. Youíre gunna love yours.


Been wanting one for awhile but couldnít make myself drop the money. Couldnít pass up this deal on one though. 75s are what Iím wanting to shoot with it or maybe the 80.5 Bergerís I hear a lot of good things about.
What barrel length are you running?
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Old 02-07-2019, 08:31 PM   #282
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I had heavily considered the 22 creed for a while now. But went with a tier 1, 6mm creed. Will be a coyote calling rifle as well as a deer gun. Not that the 22 wouldn't handle those as well. I went with the 6 for the ability to purchase good factory ammo.
I reload but with 2 little girls in the house i don't get as much time to reload as i used to.

I love the 22-250 as well as the 243 so both creed variations intrigue me. Just thought in my situation and maybe a bit more versatility, the 6 fits my needs better.
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Been wanting one for awhile but couldnít make myself drop the money. Couldnít pass up this deal on one though. 75s are what Iím wanting to shoot with it or maybe the 80.5 Bergerís I hear a lot of good things about.
What barrel length are you running?
Iím
Running a 26Ē barrel with 75s averaging 3640. To me to get full potential of this caliber you want a 24Ē or better. But I chase speed. Shot it suppressed the other day. Even though it looked like a musket it felt good. I use mine for predator hunting with deer and other things mixed.
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Running a 26Ē barrel with 75s averaging 3640. To me to get full potential of this caliber you want a 24Ē or better. But I chase speed. Shot it suppressed the other day. Even though it looked like a musket it felt good. I use mine for predator hunting with deer and other things mixed.


Yeah I might see about seeing if I can change to 24Ē. I have a buddy with a 18Ē and itís not losing too much speed. Iíd think with 22Ē I could lean on it and squeeze out 3350-3400 with 75s.
Like you, Iíll be using it mainly for predator hunting and occasionally deer and hogs.
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I had heavily considered the 22 creed for a while now. But went with a tier 1, 6mm creed. Will be a coyote calling rifle as well as a deer gun. Not that the 22 wouldn't handle those as well. I went with the 6 for the ability to purchase good factory ammo.

I reload but with 2 little girls in the house i don't get as much time to reload as i used to.



I love the 22-250 as well as the 243 so both creed variations intrigue me. Just thought in my situation and maybe a bit more versatility, the 6 fits my needs better.


Hornady should be offering ammo by next year they say. You wonít be disappointed with the 6 creed though.
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Yeah I might see about seeing if I can change to 24Ē. I have a buddy with a 18Ē and itís not losing too much speed. Iíd think with 22Ē I could lean on it and squeeze out 3350-3400 with 75s.
Like you, Iíll be using it mainly for predator hunting and occasionally deer and hogs.
Iíve got a 26Ē and 23Ē the 23Ē is a bartlein 1.7/7 twist that was salt bath nitrided and it shoots the 80.5 Bergerís at 3120 and super accurate at 1.2Ē 250yds weighs 12.5lbs
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Iíve got a 26Ē and 23Ē the 23Ē is a bartlein 1.7/7 twist that was salt bath nitrided and it shoots the 80.5 Bergerís at 3120 and super accurate at 1.2Ē 250yds weighs 12.5lbs


What powder you shooting? Is that a mild load or near max?
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Old 02-08-2019, 02:45 AM   #288
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What powder you shooting? Is that a mild load or near max?
I’m using h4350 on that one and it’s edging on semi flat primers. I also use varget with great results in the 23”.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:13 AM   #289
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Scope ring question. I'm going with the tier 2 build. I am going to be removing the rail off the APR action and using Talley Lightweight one piece rings. I am going with a Leupold VX6HD 3-18 x 50 what height rings do I need?
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:44 AM   #290
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Any of you guys roll with the 257 Weatherby? It looks like an order quantity of at least 5 barrels is required. Still waffling between the 257, 6.5 PRC, or maybe the 280AI or even the 270 WBY. Mule deer / Whitetail / Antelope.

Ah, decisions decisions. Will be running a Swaro Z5 3-18.

WOO HOO!!!
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:44 AM   #291
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I was able to stop in last Tuesday on my way to a job in Wichita Falls and put my order in.I was there about 30 min and the phones where still blowing up with TBH orders.
Tier 1 280ai with 24" barrel,a manners tan/brown sponge with a little black ambush.
Midnight Bronze action and radial break.Every one there knows their stuff about these rifles.Spent a few min talking with the paint guy,a very sharp young man.I have never ordered a custom rifle and left there very impressed with the staff and products they offer.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:53 AM   #292
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Scope ring question. I'm going with the tier 2 build. I am going to be removing the rail off the APR action and using Talley Lightweight one piece rings. I am going with a Leupold VX6HD 3-18 x 50 what height rings do I need?
I hate these questions. I always start with Lows BUT, I would call Talley, tell him you has a Proof Research barrel, go on Proof's website, get the muzzle diameter, probably something like .930. Give this number to Talley with scope dimension (50mm Obj)

He will tell you. The "rule of thumb" is to get the scope as close to the barrel without touching.
This being said, he will ask you if you are using any type of Len's cover, this, can make a big difference in your choice.

I might have a brand new set of Talleys I'll sell you. BECAUSE, I bought lows and highs, kept the one that didn't fit.


What ranges are you going to be shooting to? You should have enough elevation in your Lupey so you may not need the 20MOA in the rail.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:21 PM   #293
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Any of you guys roll with the 257 Weatherby? It looks like an order quantity of at least 5 barrels is required. Still waffling between the 257, 6.5 PRC, or maybe the 280AI or even the 270 WBY. Mule deer / Whitetail / Antelope.

Ah, decisions decisions. Will be running a Swaro Z5 3-18.

WOO HOO!!!
I'm trying to decide whether I want a 6.5 PRC, or a creed. I am concerned about the barrel life with the PRC. Same animal's I will be after, but the amount of decisions to be made is tough.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:33 PM   #294
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Creedmoor first IMO

I'm eyeing a boomer for next year but I don't need it.

I still think a good bonded 6.5 Creedmoor bullet will kill a Nilgai if hit right.
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Barrels are like tires, they can be replaced when they run out of tread. In a dedicated hunting rig, I'm guessing it would take a LONG time to burn out a PRC barrel (as compared to something like a 6.5-300 WBY).

To me, what’s important is flat trajectory in tandem with a relatively high BC projectile (which would mean a 1:7.5 twist in 257WBY and blackjacks), for those potential 10 second shot opportunities; "point - shoot - boom". It's always about the "what if".

Really torn on cartridge selection – much more than I should be. I guess at the end of the day it all comes down to making the shot. In my head, drop isn’t as important “wind voodoo”, which is why I’d probably run with the blackjacks out west.

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yep WIND keeps most of us VERY humble at long ranges.

Jordan are you wanting 1 "DO ALL" rifle? if so I think the 6.5 PRC would be your huckleberry

Hurry though only 5 hours left to order
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:54 PM   #297
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Yah. IF the PRC is as accurate as the creed - go with the PRC.
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Old 02-08-2019, 01:18 PM   #298
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I hate these questions. I always start with Lows BUT, I would call Talley, tell him you has a Proof Research barrel, go on Proof's website, get the muzzle diameter, probably something like .930. Give this number to Talley with scope dimension (50mm Obj)

He will tell you. The "rule of thumb" is to get the scope as close to the barrel without touching.
This being said, he will ask you if you are using any type of Len's cover, this, can make a big difference in your choice.

I might have a brand new set of Talleys I'll sell you. BECAUSE, I bought lows and highs, kept the one that didn't fit.


What ranges are you going to be shooting to? You should have enough elevation in your Lupey so you may not need the 20MOA in the rail.


Thanks, Yea I usually do call Talley on my other orders but they are for production rifles, I didn't know if they would be able to help me with a custom. I will give them a call and see what they say.


Is it the lows you have to sell?
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Old 02-08-2019, 01:32 PM   #299
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yep WIND keeps most of us VERY humble at long ranges.

Jordan are you wanting 1 "DO ALL" rifle? if so I think the 6.5 PRC would be your huckleberry

Hurry though only 5 hours left to order
There is over a week left to order, unless you know something different than Robert's post?
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Old 02-08-2019, 01:42 PM   #300
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Yah. IF the PRC is as accurate as the creed - go with the PRC.
My PRC is...just faster with a tad more recoil. Same with 6.5x284.
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