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Old 03-14-2019, 09:08 PM   #51
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We always help out the local 4-H and FFA members and buy their left over or cull show broilers. Keep plenty in the freezer to take camping, bbq ing and etc.
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:24 PM   #52
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Could yall share some pics of the coups/pens that yall keep the cornishx birds in?
Mine are 16íx10í and hold 100 broilers to slaughter. They are moved daily and even twice daily as they grow closer to butchering.

We feed fermented non-GMO, organic feed. This batch will likely have cockerels between 5-6lbs and pullets between 4-5lbs at 7.5 weeks. I couldnít imagine what they would weigh at 12 weeks.





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Old 04-07-2019, 06:35 PM   #53
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Awesome set up. Tell me more about your feed. Where do you get it from. We tried pallet loads from Coyote Creek I think. Was pricey and frankly meat chickens didn't do as well
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:05 PM   #54
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:18 PM   #55
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My kids raise them for FFA. At 42 days they weigh around 10lbs. We take ours to the Lilja Farms to get processed. Definitely worth the $3. If anyone wants any my kids have some in the freezer for $12 each.
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Old 04-07-2019, 08:06 PM   #56
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Awesome set up. Tell me more about your feed. Where do you get it from. We tried pallet loads from Coyote Creek I think. Was pricey and frankly meat chickens didn't do as well


This is the first batch of broilers on Coyote Creek. We switched earlier this year from Lonestar Non-GMO (outside of Waco) simply because we wanted to go organic (we were very happy with Lonestar for both layers and broilers). I raised a batch off of TSC organic last fall and these seem to be performing better. Iíll know for sure at slaughter.

Iíve tried soy-free non-GMO with lackluster results and was sure I wouldnít go back, but Iím about to start a test run from Coyote Creek with their soy-free starter. It has multiple protein sources, including crab and cold-water wild fish meal, but what convinced me to give it a shot is the Fertrell involvement in the rationing. A 2013 experiment (not mine) showed an Omega 6:3 ratio of 3:1 from soy-free broilers-thatís comparable to grass-fed beef and huge (to me) from a health perspective.

My layers are on soy-free Coyote Creek and have done very well.

Non-GMO from Lonestar is about .35/lb by ton (I think). I buy the Coyote Creek for .49/lb by the ton, so itís not cheap-but reasonable for what I consider quality fresh-milled feed. I pull my trailer up and they fill it straight into barrels. We ferment it for 2-4 days depending on temps. Iíll know on April 16th whether fermenting improves FCR or simply eliminates waste.


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Old 04-07-2019, 08:42 PM   #57
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I don't now but grew up eatin' barnyard chickens from grandma's house, that's how I'd do it if I were gonna go into raisin' them for food again, just let the layin' hens hatch off a few nest every year then kill n pluck as needed. We also ate a fair amount of guineas and the occasional duck or turkey.
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Old 04-08-2019, 11:11 AM   #58
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I don't now but grew up eatin' barnyard chickens from grandma's house, that's how I'd do it if I were gonna go into raisin' them for food again, just let the layin' hens hatch off a few nest every year then kill n pluck as needed. We also ate a fair amount of guineas and the occasional duck or turkey.


My personal preference is the dark, firm meat of a heritage bird. The stock is beyond comparison to hybrid meat birds.


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Old 04-08-2019, 11:53 AM   #59
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This is the first batch of broilers on Coyote Creek. We switched earlier this year from Lonestar Non-GMO (outside of Waco) simply because we wanted to go organic (we were very happy with Lonestar for both layers and broilers). I raised a batch off of TSC organic last fall and these seem to be performing better. Iíll know for sure at slaughter.

Iíve tried soy-free non-GMO with lackluster results and was sure I wouldnít go back, but Iím about to start a test run from Coyote Creek with their soy-free starter. It has multiple protein sources, including crab and cold-water wild fish meal, but what convinced me to give it a shot is the Fertrell involvement in the rationing. A 2013 experiment (not mine) showed an Omega 6:3 ratio of 3:1 from soy-free broilers-thatís comparable to grass-fed beef and huge (to me) from a health perspective.

My layers are on soy-free Coyote Creek and have done very well.



Non-GMO from Lonestar is about .35/lb by ton (I think). I buy the Coyote Creek for .49/lb by the ton, so itís not cheap-but reasonable for what I consider quality fresh-milled feed. I pull my trailer up and they fill it straight into barrels. We ferment it for 2-4 days depending on temps. Iíll know on April 16th whether fermenting improves FCR or simply eliminates waste.




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Thanks, I suspect we have a lot in common regarding what and how we grow things
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Old 04-08-2019, 03:56 PM   #60
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About how much feed does it take to raise a cornishx for 12 weeks?
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Old 04-08-2019, 07:27 PM   #61
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About how much feed does it take to raise a cornishx for 12 weeks?


I havenít raised any to 12 weeks, but I can tell you in 8 weeks theyíll eat 11-13lbs depending on size. Feed conversion efficiency drops quickly beyond 8 weeks, so it wouldnít surprise me if it doubled over the next four weeks. That wouldnít include offsetting feed lost on increased mortality. Cornish X will likely lose a few to heart attacks by then.

I would think you could restrict feed and have them more likely to make 12 weeks-maybe even more efficiently.

I havenít grown any recently, but I really like the freedom ranger types grown out to 12 weeks. I suspect the Sasso naked-necks might be even better, but I have yet to grow a batch.


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Old 04-08-2019, 07:45 PM   #62
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Thanks, great info!
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Old 04-08-2019, 08:46 PM   #63
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Thanks, I suspect we have a lot in common regarding what and how we grow things


Ha ha, that would be awesome! Brown, Salatin, elgato (in no particular order)




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Old 04-19-2019, 08:42 PM   #64
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Cornish are right at a month old. Been feeding organic 24% and they are growing fast.

Disregard the Chrismas sweater my boy put on.. geezz

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Old 04-19-2019, 11:38 PM   #65
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Dont do organic...chickens eat everything. Give every scrap/leftover to them
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Old 04-20-2019, 10:31 AM   #66
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Dont do organic...chickens eat everything. Give every scrap/leftover to them
Been doing that too.. as well as bags of frozen carrots and peas.

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Old 04-23-2019, 08:26 PM   #67
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Cornish are right at a month old. Been feeding organic 24% and they are growing fast.

Disregard the Chrismas sweater my boy put on.. geezz

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Great looking birds! Which organic feed are you feeding them?


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Old 04-23-2019, 08:34 PM   #68
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Just the dumor 24% starter

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Old 05-05-2019, 06:51 PM   #69
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Lost our 1st chicken today. It was twice the size of the others, so I assume heart attack.

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Old 05-05-2019, 08:32 PM   #70
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Losing your first bird at this point is impressive, sounds like youíve got it down! If you feed 24% all the way through I would expect a little loss close to the end. I fed 21% starter all the way through on my last batch and lost a couple in the 8th week. They turned cyanotic and died shortly after.

My current batch of 200 seems to be growing slower (expected as this batch is soy-free) so Iím hoping to minimize loss and have more marketable sized birds (they dressed up to 7.5lbs on last batch). I will also butcher at 50 days since heat will be a factor.


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We got up early to get these chickens cut, but was ran out early by the rain. Was able to get three done and into the cooler, then I pulled em inside and finished out.

What I'm definitely learning.. water temp has to be just right and its easy to keep in water too long. We kept the 2nd one in the water a little long and all the skin started coming off while hitting it with the plucker.. it's not as difficult as expected, but more meticulous than expected.

We will ABSOLUTELY be buying a chicken plucker.. mama wants one. Since we were only able to get 3 done, shes considering picking one up for tomorrow when we finish.. haha..

We decided we were only going to keep 3 of the smaller ones whole and quarter/breast the rest. Here's from one of our bigger ones.. there also a learning curve to cutting up as well..

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Old 05-18-2019, 12:55 PM   #72
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Seeing this thread up reminded me I did a video on our process. Posted it on my other site but here, for those that may not have seen it.
https://youtu.be/cU9p3g2fdlQ
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Seeing this thread up reminded me I did a video on our process. Posted it on my other site but here, for those that may not have seen it.
https://youtu.be/cU9p3g2fdlQ
I was just about to post your video. Love watching your stuff!
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Old 05-18-2019, 04:38 PM   #74
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I have a entire evisceration processing department behind my shop.

You guys that kill/eviscerate your own bird, I have hundreds of stainless shackles I would sell that will make it a lot easier to hang/ bleed and pick the bird.
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Old 05-18-2019, 10:18 PM   #75
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We got up early to get these chickens cut, but was ran out early by the rain. Was able to get three done and into the cooler, then I pulled em inside and finished out.

What I'm definitely learning.. water temp has to be just right and its easy to keep in water too long. We kept the 2nd one in the water a little long and all the skin started coming off while hitting it with the plucker.. it's not as difficult as expected, but more meticulous than expected.

We will ABSOLUTELY be buying a chicken plucker.. mama wants one. Since we were only able to get 3 done, shes considering picking one up for tomorrow when we finish.. haha..

We decided we were only going to keep 3 of the smaller ones whole and quarter/breast the rest. Here's from one of our bigger ones.. there also a learning curve to cutting up as well..

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Not yet. But will the next couple. Were working on the rest now

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Weighed the last 8. Weights ranged 4.5 - 5.25 pounds for a fully dressed bird. Not too bad.

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My dad raised meat birds when I was growing up, Cornish and quail. I hated processing day!
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Weighed the last 8. Weights ranged 4.5 - 5.25 pounds for a fully dressed bird. Not too bad.

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Old 05-19-2019, 09:22 AM   #80
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Mine are 16íx10í and hold 100 broilers to slaughter. They are moved daily and even twice daily as they grow closer to butchering.

We feed fermented non-GMO, organic feed. This batch will likely have cockerels between 5-6lbs and pullets between 4-5lbs at 7.5 weeks. I couldnít imagine what they would weigh at 12 weeks.





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I'm looking to build a tractor for a couple dozen birds
Can you share more pics of the 16x10 you have there
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Old 05-19-2019, 11:01 AM   #82
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I also have a chicken plucker for loan. Used to do it without one and would spend all day processing birds. Now it takes me about two hours start to finish. Hate seeing it just sit around for 364 days a year...
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Old 05-19-2019, 01:37 PM   #83
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Can you share more pics of the 16x10 you have there

Let me see what I can come up with. Iím out of state right now, but let me check my phone and photo accounts.



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Old 05-19-2019, 01:43 PM   #84
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If I were only doing a few dozen at a time I would stick with one this size. Itíll hold 50 broilers and can be moved around easily. Iím not a fan of storm door and I use welded wire instead of chicken wire over panels, but I think this would serve you well.

I used Salatin style for years (still have one in service) and like the walk-in style better.

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