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Old 04-18-2019, 08:57 AM   #1
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We arenít allowed to break ground on our lease due to the USDA CRP program on our lease. We have several areas where broadcasting would allow for soil to seed contact and plenty of sunlight. The landowner told me that he knows several people who have had luck broadcasting winter wheat as a no til but Iím not seeing it done anywhere. I figured Oats and Winter Rye would be fine but wanted to see if anybody had any success stories.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:05 AM   #2
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Check out this thread below:

https://discussions.texasbowhunter.c...ight=throw+mow
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:13 AM   #3
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Looks like some of what he planted were just thrown but most of it appeared to be disked and then packed. Some good plots though.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:14 AM   #4
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broadcasting and shredding works on well in central tx sandy soil.
Let us know how it does.

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Old 04-18-2019, 09:21 AM   #5
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Do you have fallow fields? Flat, relatively rock and stump free?
I would suggest waiting until later in the fall when weather might remain
Wetter. Planting early sounds good till it comes up and gets no rain. broadcast wheat, oats and elbon rye. Shred over the top. If you have a big deer population, it better be a big area. I use more seed than recommended because the seed is cheap compared to time and effort.
We fertilize after ours after cool weather so native grass is dormant and wonít compete.
I assume no livestock.
Iím looking at a September plant. Yes, rock free for the most part. Mostly. Where are you getting your seed? I read a good article that talked about doing a light broadcast, then every other week doing more broadcasting with seed. To allow for growth behind what is being eaten.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:40 AM   #6
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Looks like some of what he planted were just thrown but most of it appeared to be disked and then packed. Some good plots though.
If you read his whole thread the most recent posts were more of the throw and mow method. He used elbon rye as his base majority of the time because it is smaller than wheat and germinates easier. Then he would use other small seeds in the mix as well.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:47 AM   #7
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I agree with what's been stated above. Throw and mow leaving a layer of thatch to cover the seeds.

I like clover, alfalfa and oats myself. The smaller seed, the better it works as a throw and grow. If the ground if flat and not very rocky you could also roll it before mowing.
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Old 04-18-2019, 11:03 AM   #8
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I agree with what's been stated above. Throw and mow leaving a layer of thatch to cover the seeds.

I like clover, alfalfa and oats myself. The smaller seed, the better it works as a throw and grow. If the ground if flat and not very rocky you could also roll it before mowing.
I know mowing is a no go.
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Old 04-18-2019, 10:03 PM   #9
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Elbon rye! After my first experiments with it last fall I'm convinced it will grow on concrete. I did a throw and grow at our wise county farm and it was awesome. Going to seed now
Andnis 5 ft tall.
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:55 AM   #10
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Elbon rye! After my first experiments with it last fall I'm convinced it will grow on concrete. I did a throw and grow at our wise county farm and it was awesome. Going to seed now
Andnis 5 ft tall.
That’s great to hear. How much did you buy and how much per bag?

And how did the deer take to it?

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Old 04-19-2019, 10:50 AM   #11
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I am only planting once a season.
I plant a mixture of oats, wheat & elbon
And broadcast with the tractor about 200 lbs / acre.
Some goes out of the fields and some Iím sure is eaten by critters,
But our fall plots really looked good this year and everything was eaten to the ground except in the cages.
We have an outstanding field of red tipped clover, but I am not sure any of it is being eaten. . I have a photo of that, but everything is so green and lush, deer arent hungry.
I buy my seed at Davis Feed in Centerville.
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Old 04-19-2019, 01:37 PM   #12
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I would love to know of a clover that can grow in our area (hill country) and the time of year to plant it. I’ve seen some people broadcast chicory on top of the soil in early spring and it did well thru summer time.
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Sorry I was not answering about hill country
Just 35 years of planting here and still trying to learn.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:31 AM   #14
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Sorry I was not answering about hill country
Just 35 years of planting here and still trying to learn.
No biggy. I appreciate the feedback regardless
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