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Old 09-21-2019, 08:46 PM   #1
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Spotted this pretty little thing trying to escape the cat tonight near my driveway. This is the second coral snake i have ever seen here. According to interwebs, most are pretty short but this one looks lengthy. I should have put a tape to it before letting it go.




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Old 09-21-2019, 08:47 PM   #2
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You mean killing it instead of letting it go
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Old 09-21-2019, 08:48 PM   #3
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I have only seen the 12"-14" ones
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Old 09-21-2019, 09:02 PM   #4
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can't really see that picture that well but looks like a pretty big one... I think id have S'd my pants regardless though
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Old 09-21-2019, 09:39 PM   #5
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Most coral snakes I see are 12-18 “ anything bigger than 18” is pretty big in my book
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Old 09-21-2019, 09:41 PM   #6
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I killed a big one in my back yard a couple of years ago, probably 36-38 inches.
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Old 09-21-2019, 09:43 PM   #7
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I've seen them as long as 38".
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Old 09-21-2019, 10:06 PM   #8
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Good man, coral snakes are essentially harmless....unless you are messing with one.

That is a good sized one, they are beautiful snakes.
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Old 09-21-2019, 10:21 PM   #9
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That's a big one for sure.
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Old 09-21-2019, 10:22 PM   #10
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i have seen only two in the wild one was about 24" the other was at least 36"
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Old 09-21-2019, 10:50 PM   #11
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Nice. Cool snakes.
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Old 09-22-2019, 12:05 AM   #12
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Even in the Amazon where everything is bigger and meaner, Coral snakes we saw were only a couple feet at most. That's a pretty good size one.
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Old 09-22-2019, 12:46 AM   #13
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That’s a big corral snake.
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:19 AM   #14
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The longest Texas Coral Snake on record was right around 48" I believe.
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:06 AM   #15
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Old 09-22-2019, 05:57 AM   #16
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I would have SPOONED him.
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Old 09-22-2019, 07:25 AM   #17
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What’s the rule about the bands and it being a coral snake vs the one that looks like a coral snake? (Kill em all I say)
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Old 09-22-2019, 07:46 AM   #18
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Red and black friend of jack black and yellow kill a fella
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Old 09-22-2019, 08:09 AM   #19
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There is a rare coral IN TEXAS with a diversion to the common colors. That is scary and never knew that until a couple years ago. I can not remember the difference but it was substantial. I now have to look it up again. They can be aggressive although have a tougher time getting a bite with smaller mouth. I have encountered on my yesteryear land near Leander, 3 roughly 28" which is bigger than the books note as full size. I saw one at Georgetown Cedar Breaks Park which I would guess was at least 28" up to 30"plus. Not sure of current protections etc. but a coral used to bring a Very large $ sum per inch and had to be fresh. I never sold one. Very darned deadly. I actually chased one of my three down which was about 1/3 swallowed by my laying hen. I grabbed by its tail and pulled. It was much alive at that moment at least.
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Old 09-22-2019, 08:44 AM   #20
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Man I just looked. There are several versions in the family across the regions.
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Old 09-22-2019, 01:30 PM   #21
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Killed one in the street that had just crawoed out of a neighbor's yard that was 31" minus the head---biggest one I've ever seen.

I'm betting yours is every bit that big and most likely longer-
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Old 09-22-2019, 01:40 PM   #22
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Would be dead meat if I saw it!
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Old 09-22-2019, 01:57 PM   #23
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Dog got this one the other morning...bout 18 inches

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Old 09-22-2019, 04:30 PM   #24
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There is a rare coral IN TEXAS with a diversion to the common colors. That is scary and never knew that until a couple years ago. I can not remember the difference but it was substantial. I now have to look it up again. They can be aggressive although have a tougher time getting a bite with smaller mouth. I have encountered on my yesteryear land near Leander, 3 roughly 28" which is bigger than the books note as full size. I saw one at Georgetown Cedar Breaks Park which I would guess was at least 28" up to 30"plus. Not sure of current protections etc. but a coral used to bring a Very large $ sum per inch and had to be fresh. I never sold one. Very darned deadly. I actually chased one of my three down which was about 1/3 swallowed by my laying hen. I grabbed by its tail and pulled. It was much alive at that moment at least.
Interesting. I have never heard that. Can you post the info when you find it?
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Old 09-22-2019, 05:40 PM   #25
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the second I saw was about 30 inches. and for some reason it was mistaken for a king snake. in my youth it was told that coral's don't grow longer than 18 to 20 inches. both were left alive. later found out that the anti venom is no longer being made.
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Old 09-22-2019, 05:51 PM   #26
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My dog killed this one a few weeks ago.
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Old 09-22-2019, 06:29 PM   #27
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I should have mentioned that my wife then reminded me of the pets and small children we have. I proceeded to “let him go” in the brush in multiple pieces.


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Old 09-22-2019, 08:12 PM   #28
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I just relocated a 12” one. Dog found it in the back yard.
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Old 09-22-2019, 08:18 PM   #29
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That's a big one. I used to give them a pass until I read that they stopped producing anti-venom for coral snakes. Not a big enough market for it. Then I thought if the snake that I let go, happen to bite some kid that mistook it for a King Snake, and got sick and died, I'd have wished I'd have just killed it. I know the odds are crazy low, hence the lack of market for the anti-venom, I just don't care that much about the survival of snakes. I'm not for killing them all, but I'm for killing all of them than can kill you or hurt you bad.
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Old 09-22-2019, 08:58 PM   #30
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Large coral snake and black panther in the same photo. Thats awesome
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Old 09-22-2019, 09:44 PM   #31
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This thread honestly gets my very itchy lol. I've only seen two coral's around Tomball before and both were about a ft long.
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Old 09-22-2019, 09:49 PM   #32
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I’ve only killed a couple coral snakes. One was 24” and the other 27”. At the time, I had no idea they got that big.
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Old 09-23-2019, 08:24 AM   #33
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My biggest and only encounter with one was 32"
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Old 09-23-2019, 08:28 AM   #34
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that's a good one right there...…...
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Old 09-23-2019, 08:36 AM   #35
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Biggest one I’ve killed.


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Old 09-23-2019, 09:00 AM   #36
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I wouldn't take any chances with them due to their venom, but in reality a coral snake is absolutely zero match for any cat that's not physically stunted. Your cat would've finished that thing without breaking a sweat.
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Old 09-23-2019, 11:31 AM   #37
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reminds of of the folks who swear they saw a 4' copperhead and rattlesnakes that "stretched all the way across the road" lol
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Old 09-23-2019, 11:52 AM   #38
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Interesting. I have never heard that. Can you post the info when you find it?
It has been a while and it was on a very well done site of reptile fanatics with pics of corals I thought were being touted as Texas snakes only and looked different from the Eastern also known as Texas coral. Mexico has other members and Arizona has the coral which the yellow can be dull to white and colors are not as vivid. Worldwide the family has more coral family critters. I can not find my source so I will consider possible error. I speculate the pros were talking about Arizona variation warning color differences. I am clear of the variations and they do exist but I can not produce proof for Texas so looks like after research with Hat in Hand, humbly apologize if I likely posted incorrect info for our great State.
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Old 09-23-2019, 11:55 AM   #39
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12 gauge usually makes them the proper length
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Old 09-23-2019, 11:56 AM   #40
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There is a rare coral IN TEXAS with a diversion to the common colors. That is scary and never knew that until a couple years ago. I can not remember the difference but it was substantial. I now have to look it up again. They can be aggressive although have a tougher time getting a bite with smaller mouth. I have encountered on my yesteryear land near Leander, 3 roughly 28" which is bigger than the books note as full size. I saw one at Georgetown Cedar Breaks Park which I would guess was at least 28" up to 30"plus. Not sure of current protections etc. but a coral used to bring a Very large $ sum per inch and had to be fresh. I never sold one. Very darned deadly. I actually chased one of my three down which was about 1/3 swallowed by my laying hen. I grabbed by its tail and pulled. It was much alive at that moment at least.
See my follow up comments. I can not find any info for Texas variations. Mexico and Arizona, not Texas. Memory is following my age. Slow and flawed. Sorry and apologize for any misinformation (with good intent) I entered.
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Old 09-23-2019, 12:06 PM   #41
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I killed this one I’m my back yard in Kingwood. My arrows are 32”, and this one was several inches longer. It was probably close to 40”. Red on yellow, done in by a red in yellow...
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Old 09-23-2019, 06:33 PM   #42
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I prefer a shovel or a hoe. The challenge of an arrow in a snake not much bigger around.? Between the eyes? Kidding. Anyone ever seen the wierdo that fakes a Cobra. I was at a hill country Gas Station and a fella had one in his truck bed alive and it was pretty scary replicating a cobra with the flattened neck. I stayed back. (wimp) Since I made an error in previous post, my credibilty should be a bit weak about snakes. Always trying to explore and learn.
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Old 09-23-2019, 06:43 PM   #43
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Probably a hognose acting like a cobra, they are all bark & no bite. I used to get them in my garage and I could mess with them and they’d act tough but never actually strike.
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Old 09-23-2019, 08:39 PM   #44
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I've killed several here around Leander over the years. Hadn't seen any in a while though, which is good.
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Old 09-23-2019, 09:25 PM   #45
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It has been a while and it was on a very well done site of reptile fanatics with pics of corals I thought were being touted as Texas snakes only and looked different from the Eastern also known as Texas coral. Mexico has other members and Arizona has the coral which the yellow can be dull to white and colors are not as vivid. Worldwide the family has more coral family critters. I can not find my source so I will consider possible error. I speculate the pros were talking about Arizona variation warning color differences. I am clear of the variations and they do exist but I can not produce proof for Texas so looks like after research with Hat in Hand, humbly apologize if I likely posted incorrect info for our great State.
I found this:

http://thevenominterviews.com/2016/0...-coral-snakes/

Learned something today.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:43 PM   #46
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Thanks for that site entry. I remember seeing this site. I forgot about the oddballs that had color variations via natural occurring genetics similar to albino criiters or our melinistic blackish in color whitetails often seen sw of Austin
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Old 10-03-2019, 06:14 PM   #47
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My dad killed a couple in Brazoria county 2 years ago in the 40 inch range. Crazy, he hadn't seen a coral snake in like 20 years and then one year, saw multiple.

I'd say most are in the 24-30 inch range, but up to 40 is not necessarily all that rare.
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Old 10-03-2019, 06:30 PM   #48
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Cool looking snake. Glad he got a pass.
Whenever I see those snakes I think of two things.
The staff in the 10 Commandments that comes to life and the arrow/snake James Earl Jones shoots at Conans warrior girlfriend
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Old 10-03-2019, 06:46 PM   #49
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Those are the only snake I’ll catch . Only because I take them to A & M KINGSVILLE . They need all they can get . They use them to make anti-venom .
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