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Old 10-02-2019, 09:29 PM   #1
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Default Sales Tax on Internet Out of State Purchases

The tax man is going to get some more of your money. Lots of internet based companies are now charging sales tax even on out of state purchases. Ebay started and the rest will probably follow suit. This taxing crap never ends.
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:30 PM   #2
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Why are they doing this? Are they now required too?
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:31 PM   #3
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Last stuff I bought on Amazon did not have tax on it
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:35 PM   #4
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Why are they doing this? Are they now required too?
I would guess states are missing out on lots of revenue from online purchases that do not collect state sales tax.

Just think how many more illegals Texas can take care of if that money was collected from online purchases
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:39 PM   #5
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You got something formal going into action?? This would HIGHLY affect my online consignment sales:

https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search...Sellers=154786

I bet less than 10% of my online consignments are purchased from TX...that is how tight the market is. Shipping & tax considerations are huge for people. The state of TX asked me to file my sales tax 1x per year due to my business model. If I have to charge sales tax for every online purchase due to state lines not being an issue, the game is going to change & I have not heard anything.
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:42 PM   #6
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What are the parameters for this?
I thought I read it was going into effect in September and remember reading a sponsor say something about it also.

Main reason I shop online/ have a amazon account is 1) Convenient 2) Avoiding sales taxes on majority of items
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:50 PM   #7
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Here you go. Out of state sellers have to charge sales tax effective October 1, 2019.


https://comptroller.texas.gov/taxes/sales//


Out of State Sellers: Register Now!

Remote sellers are required to begin sales and use tax collections on Oct. 1, 2019. You should:

Read about the tax responsibilities for remote sellers.
Register for a Texas sales and use tax permit. (This is easy to do online with Webfile.)
Verify your sales and use tax permit status.
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:52 PM   #8
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What a crock of crap!
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:53 PM   #9
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That will be impossible to police
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:53 PM   #10
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What are the parameters for this?
I thought I read it was going into effect in September and remember reading a sponsor say something about it also.

Main reason I shop online/ have a amazon account is 1) Convenient 2) Avoiding sales taxes on majority of items
What I understand is the Supreme Court last year said the individual states can require sales tax to be collected from online sales.

I would make an assumption that Texas has no state income tax and relies heavily on sales tax collections, so there is a motive. Reckon you could do a search on the internet and find a much better answer than what my redneck azz just said

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Old 10-02-2019, 09:55 PM   #11
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Wonder how quickly other states will do the same.
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:56 PM   #12
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You got something formal going into action?? This would HIGHLY affect my online consignment sales:

https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search...Sellers=154786

I bet less than 10% of my online consignments are purchased from TX...that is how tight the market is. Shipping & tax considerations are huge for people. The state of TX asked me to file my sales tax 1x per year due to my business model. If I have to charge sales tax for every online purchase due to state lines not being an issue, the game is going to change & I have not heard anything.
It shouldn't affect you as this is for companies outside the state of Texas. They now have to charge sales tax for items shipped into the state. Other states are doing the same thing so you may need to register with the 49 other states and start collecting taxes for items you sell out of state.
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That will be impossible to police
Yes it will. Lot's of people will charge the tax and pocket the money. What are they gonna do about it?
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:59 PM   #14
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Sales and use tax have been a huge cash grab here in Minnesota for years. Before we had Amazon fulfillment here everyone loved the additional savings, then the tax man figured out it was a good opener for sales and use tax audits. Gotta feed the hungry machine.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:08 PM   #15
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I bought a couple higher dollar items online this weekend before the tax got applied on the 1st.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:10 PM   #16
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Supposed to pay use tax on purchases from out of state already. That means all the stuff we bought on amazon, ebay etc from out of state, we are all supposed to have been paying use tax unless the seller collected sales tax for Texas
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Yes it will. Lot's of people will charge the tax and pocket the money. What are they gonna do about it?
I pay my sales tax collections monthly, what I collect in sales tax plus local tax must be sent in by the 20th of each month. The state drafts the money out of my business checking account after I fill out an online statement. I just did it tonight for what I collected last month.

Last year the state of Texas sent me an email, in redneck terms it said that if I committed fraud with sales tax collections that I would be given amnesty if I made it right and promised not to do it again.

The whole sales tax collection system in Texas is based on "Good Faith". I can assure you that there are POS out there that have scammed a lot folks on sales tax collections. In other other words they collect it and keep it, so basically you paid an additional 8.25% profit margin to the seller.
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Government greed knows no bounds.
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I don't like taxes any more than the next guy. I see both sides. Ask someone like our awesome forum sponsor Outdoor Legacy what it's like trying to sell a $5,000 thermal scope to a guy in Texas who can get it online from California with no sales tax. That stings.
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:04 AM   #20
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They got me yesterday on Ebay for scope...added tax. Texas started 10/1/19 don't know how they are going to police this but they, ebay, is going to get the sales tax money so maybe they will do the right thing. Not a happy camper when I saw it on my PP.
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:18 AM   #21
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I don't like taxes any more than the next guy. I see both sides. Ask someone like our awesome forum sponsor Outdoor Legacy what it's like trying to sell a $5,000 thermal scope to a guy in Texas who can get it online from California with no sales tax. That stings.
Excellent point, I buy tens of thousands of dollars worth of stuff for my business off of eBay every year. I am tax exempt but of course you have to provide a certificate, there is no way I am going to provide a certificate to all the various sellers on eBay. Looks like I will have to bring my business back to the local vendors here.
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:59 AM   #22
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I have been paying sales tax online for everything for a while now. Amazon started many months ago, I bought rims and tires from TireRack and paid tax on those in April, and my Stone Glacier (Montana) pack I bought two years ago had tax applied. Why should an online retailer have a competitive advantage over a brick and mortar store?
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:29 AM   #23
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On Amazon, it seems like some items have had tax charged for a while now. Other items not. It's been a mixed bag...
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:25 PM   #24
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The whole sales tax collection system in Texas is based on "Good Faith". I can assure you that there are POS out there that have scammed a lot folks on sales tax collections. In other other words they collect it and keep it, so basically you paid an additional 8.25% profit margin to the seller.
It is 'good faith' the same way income tax payment is. The Comptroller can (and does) audit folks and when they decide to do that (randomly or for some suspicion), they will turn things inside out to find issues - sales on which sales tax wasn't collected and should have been (so keep all exemption certificates organized) or 'sales tax' collected and not submitted to proper authorities.
Our business has been audited twice in a 20 year period. Nothing found either time, but it took days and days of manpower providing them access/copies/etc.
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I can't imagine an online shop in Colorado worried to much about what the Texas comptroller wants....and then what nightmare of every state decides to then they have keep 49 extra files for those states tax rates and taxes......
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I have been paying sales tax online for everything for a while now. Amazon started many months ago, I bought rims and tires from TireRack and paid tax on those in April, and my Stone Glacier (Montana) pack I bought two years ago had tax applied. Why should an online retailer have a competitive advantage over a brick and mortar store?
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On Amazon, it seems like some items have had tax charged for a while now. Other items not. It's been a mixed bag...
If the seller has a location in Texas they have already been required to collect sales tax.
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Old 10-03-2019, 02:51 PM   #27
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Excellent point, I buy tens of thousands of dollars worth of stuff for my business off of eBay every year. I am tax exempt but of course you have to provide a certificate, there is no way I am going to provide a certificate to all the various sellers on eBay. Looks like I will have to bring my business back to the local vendors here.
All you have to do is send one exemption to eBay for all their vendors.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:22 PM   #28
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On Amazon, it seems like some items have had tax charged for a while now. Other items not. It's been a mixed bag...



It has for a pretty good while ......Amazon has distributorships/fulfillment centers//warehouses in Texas so it has to charge sales tax on items coming from those places. There are some instance where items are shipped directly from the seller from out of state where taxes are not collected. Sounds like that is about to change as well.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:29 PM   #29
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All you have to do is send one exemption to eBay for all their vendors.
Holy cow, did not know that. Makes sense. Thanks.
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:14 PM   #30
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Holy cow, did not know that. Makes sense. Thanks.
Check your eBay messages. They’ve been sending them out for the last month or more. You do read those messages don’t you?
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Check your eBay messages. They’ve been sending them out for the last month or more. You do read those messages don’t you?
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:06 AM   #32
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eBay got me also. I bought a rangefinder and had two separate PayPal charges....one to the seller and another charge from eBay for sales tax. Guess I should read the messages they send.


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