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Old 08-29-2021, 09:23 PM   #1
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What does everyone average ???
Not a huge fan of 3d i would rather shoot fur but if it helps then why not!!

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Old 08-29-2021, 10:40 PM   #2
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Those of us that don't do well don't wanna admit it.
Those of us who do well don't wanna seem like braggers.
Those of us who shoot middle of the pack don't know how to feel.
The TBOT website posts scores you can get an idea from.
https://tbot.org/
Just for the record I don't shoot many but I'm consistently mediocre.

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Old 08-30-2021, 05:37 AM   #3
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My goal is just to improve my "per target average". I've done so. But it's a slow climb.

Would love to shoot a 3D every other weekend. But the shoots dry up by mid-summer.

Don't konw what's up with TBOT, but it does not seem that they post scores very often. Seems there are a lot more TBOT shoots than are posted on TBOT.
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Old 08-30-2021, 06:30 AM   #4
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Those of us that don't do well don't wanna admit it.
Those of us who do well don't wanna seem like braggers.
Those of us who shoot middle of the pack don't know how to feel.
The TBOT website posts scores you can get an idea from.
https://tbot.org/
Just for the record I don't shoot many but I'm consistently mediocre.

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Sorry I didnít specify, but i looked up some on there score cards and the highest winning score on some was a 252.
We shoot 20 targets/12 point max. That means 240 would be highest score lol


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Old 08-30-2021, 06:35 AM   #5
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Those of us that don't do well don't wanna admit it.
Those of us who do well don't wanna seem like braggers.
Those of us who shoot middle of the pack don't know how to feel.
The TBOT website posts scores you can get an idea from.
https://tbot.org/
Just for the record I don't shoot many but I'm consistently mediocre.

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Ha i suck, but Iím getting better. My second 3D and Iím at 145. My goal was to average an 8 and I didnít cut it. I shot a 7.25 average! But hey thatís 30 points higher than last tournament (1st tournament) so I ainít stressing. Iím sure soon enough Iíll be shooting 160+

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Old 08-30-2021, 06:57 AM   #6
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Looking at the average score per target will give you a better idea on the types of scores being shot, but not all courses are set or scored the same. Our local club sets 30 targets with 12-10-8-5 scoring, max distance for trad at 25 yards. Other clubs have set 20 targets, with the trad max yardage being somewhat less. The bigger TBoT shoots might have 50 targets, with high scores being 490+.
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Old 08-30-2021, 07:01 AM   #7
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You need to look at points per target (ppt). On a 30 target course (I.e. - most TBoT shoots) a 252 would be an 8.4 ppt. Anything over 8 is pretty good. If you are talking about averages, anything over 8.5ppt is getting into real good area.

FYI - 8ppt in your 20 target course would be 160.

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Old 08-30-2021, 07:22 AM   #8
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You need to look at points per target (ppt). On a 30 target course (I.e. - most TBoT shoots) a 252 would be an 8.4 ppt. Anything over 8 is pretty good. If you are talking about averages, anything over 8.5ppt is getting into real good area.

FYI - 8ppt in your 20 target course would be 160.

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Thanks buddy! Iím almost there lol 7.25 but still got along ways to go!!! Not a huge fan of score, the only one that ever matters is the 1st one!!!


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Old 08-30-2021, 07:26 AM   #9
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3D is a game. What makes it a cool game is that we can play it using our bows. The rings on those targets are not in the right spot as you would pick on a critter. Also, score is not really relevant for hunting because a lot of shots are not shots we would take when hunting. Scores do indicate how good we are shooting though, and if you shoot a lot of 3D, you can watch your scores and average rise as you keep getting better and more consistent.


It becomes addictive! Itís good practice for critters just because you are actually shooting at real life critter shapes.

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Old 08-30-2021, 09:04 AM   #10
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Yessir your are correct! Sure beats sitting on the couch thatís forsure !!


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Old 08-30-2021, 01:51 PM   #11
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You need to look at points per target (ppt). On a 30 target course (I.e. - most TBoT shoots) a 252 would be an 8.4 ppt. Anything over 8 is pretty good. If you are talking about averages, anything over 8.5ppt is getting into real good area.

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Well, nuts! Here I was thinking 6.2 ppt fantastic!
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Old 08-30-2021, 01:55 PM   #12
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Heck some of us consider it a win if we don't lose or break an arrow.

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Old 08-30-2021, 02:01 PM   #13
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heck some of us consider it a win if we don't lose or break an arrow.

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Old 08-30-2021, 02:08 PM   #14
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Your lying lol I know you prob average a 10 lol


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Old 08-30-2021, 02:17 PM   #15
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Old 08-30-2021, 02:43 PM   #16
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I agree 100% with what Bisch said.
3d archery archery scoring is much like golf to me and score variances from one course to the next can have a big impact on average scores. I've always been of the thought that if you can keep them all in the 8 ring, your basically staying at "even par" and any score above that is just a bonus. If you can get to the 8 point average per shot, for most courses your looking at being in the top 30ish percent of scores which is great.

I can remember starting out, my goal was to not lose or break any arrows, then it went to not missing any targets, then onto getting to the 8 average, then trying to go through a course without any 5's. Of each of these steps in my progression as an archer, I think all of them were equally as challenging to reach and looking back, reaching each of these goals was 98% mental. My biggest peace of advice is if you make a bad shot on target "5", try to figure out what mistake you made, then forget about it and move on to target "6". Likewise, if you make a great shot on target "6", forget about it and move on to the next target. I KNOW its extremely hard to do sometimes, but once you can break that barrier of not letting any prior shots you've made (good or bad) dictate the outcomes of future shots, then moving on from one goal to the next is much easier.
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Old 08-30-2021, 03:08 PM   #17
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I agree 100% with what Bisch said.
3d archery archery scoring is much like golf to me and score variances from one course to the next can have a big impact on average scores. I've always been of the thought that if you can keep them all in the 8 ring, your basically staying at "even par" and any score above that is just a bonus. If you can get to the 8 point average per shot, for most courses your looking at being in the top 30ish percent of scores which is great.

I can remember starting out, my goal was to not lose or break any arrows, then it went to not missing any targets, then onto getting to the 8 average, then trying to go through a course without any 5's. Of each of these steps in my progression as an archer, I think all of them were equally as challenging to reach and looking back, reaching each of these goals was 98% mental. My biggest peace of advice is if you make a bad shot on target "5", try to figure out what mistake you made, then forget about it and move on to target "6". Likewise, if you make a great shot on target "6", forget about it and move on to the next target. I KNOW its extremely hard to do sometimes, but once you can break that barrier of not letting any prior shots you've made (good or bad) dictate the outcomes of future shots, then moving on from one goal to the next is much easier.

You know thatís something I tried this last shoot. I tried to get at least an 8 per target.
If I didnít oh well moved on. Bird brain Ö


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I've spent decades shooting long range rifle and pistol silhouettes, fishing bass clubs and tournament circuits. Won eneough money to pay for two bass boats and a bunch of tackle and whatnot over thevyears. Even shot archery 3D a bit with compounds.
Honestly I got burnt out. Got sick of dealing with spoiled brats throwing fits and accusing others of cheating because they got beat. Got sick of people cussing and whining because an animal marginally hit didn't fall or an arrow was called not cutting a line by the group.
I shoot against myself. Sure an 8 average is respectable. And some matches I do that. Others not as well.
But if your score is the most important thing to you at a shoot then I probably don't need to shoot in your group. Because traditional archers are some of the nicest people I've been around in competition situations and I enjoy the course, the conversation and the camaraderie a whole lot more when I'm not sweating my score.
My real score is kept in LDPs and memories on the hunts. In the end the good time far outweighs a buckle or trophy for me.

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Old 08-31-2021, 02:18 AM   #19
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I've spent decades shooting long range rifle and pistol silhouettes, fishing bass clubs and tournament circuits. Won eneough money to pay for two bass boats and a bunch of tackle and whatnot over thevyears. Even shot archery 3D a bit with compounds.
Honestly I got burnt out. Got sick of dealing with spoiled brats throwing fits and accusing others of cheating because they got beat. Got sick of people cussing and whining because an animal marginally hit didn't fall or an arrow was called not cutting a line by the group.
I shoot against myself. Sure an 8 average is respectable. And some matches I do that. Others not as well.
But if your score is the most important thing to you at a shoot then I probably don't need to shoot in your group. Because traditional archers are some of the nicest people I've been around in competition situations and I enjoy the course, the conversation and the camaraderie a whole lot more when I'm not sweating my score.
My real score is kept in LDPs and memories on the hunts. In the end the good time far outweighs a buckle or trophy for me.

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If your talking to me You Must have not read My original post .
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If your talking to me You Must have not read My original post .
Oh no. Not speaking to anyone here.
Just speaking to my point of view on worrying about score.
I go to have a good time.
There are some excellent shooters on here. But they are as non assuming, fun to hang with individuals as you'll find. Nothing like the attitude you see at compound shoots where you can't whisper while the shooter takes 10 minutes to line up, adjust and readjust, shoot then grumble and grouch cause he missed the tiny ring he expected to hit.
I'm just not too concerned about how my score relates to others. I worry more about my consistency in maintaining good shooting form on each shot and if I'm having a good time.
And TBOT shoot people tend to make that easy.
The good time part.

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Old 08-31-2021, 08:57 PM   #21
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I love shooting 3D, but I never keep score unless there's a lot of pressure to.
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Haven’t shot in a long time I used to love it.
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Is there any cards or sheets to use to determine where the different scoring rings are? I shot in my second ever 3D shoot Sunday and just shot as if I was trying to kill and a lot of these rings seem to be a lot higher and back then I would shoot on a live animal. I get why it’s needed, but are there reference sheets and are they allowed in a 3D shoot?
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Is there any cards or sheets to use to determine where the different scoring rings are? I shot in my second ever 3D shoot Sunday and just shot as if I was trying to kill and a lot of these rings seem to be a lot higher and back then I would shoot on a live animal. I get why itís needed, but are there reference sheets and are they allowed in a 3D shoot?

Your correct, if you about to kill youíll average 5ís. I donít know why they do this!!! So dumb IMO. I guess to save the foam ( for replacement purposes)


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Your correct, if you about to kill youíll average 5ís. I donít know why they do this!!! So dumb IMO. I guess to save the foam ( for replacement purposes)


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They put the rings where they do to try to make the theyíd last longer. 3D is a game.

OP, yes they do make reference cards with scoring rings marked on the targets. They will also hold your scorecards.

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Your correct, if you about to kill youíll average 5ís. I donít know why they do this!!! So dumb IMO. I guess to save the foam ( for replacement purposes)


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I like 3D for the pressure I feel on the first few shots of the day. It's darn good practice for making high pressure shots. I'm always pursuing higher average scores, but to be perfectly honest, I'll never be totally satisfied with anything less than perfection. And I guarantee I don't shoot to perfection, lol. Keeping score helps me track personal growth.

I try real hard not to be negative about bad shots on the course for others sake though. For me it's hunting practice, and a misplaced arrow is a wounded animal.. I choose where I want to aim when I draw on an animal anyways, so the ring location doesn't bother me.
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That's how I score myself. If I come back home with at least half of the arrows I left with I'm good. Last time I went out I found one of my arrows from the time before. Still wound up one shy of what I started with.
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That's how I score myself. If I come back home with at least half of the arrows I left with I'm good. Last time I went out I found one of my arrows from the time before. Still wound up one shy of what I started with.
I came back from one shoot with an extra! I have somebodies Gold Tip!
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8.77 ave per arrow puts me at a 263 total for a 30 target course.
I came to that number from my ASA state qualifiers and the state shoot this year.
Six total shoots
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8.77 ave per arrow puts me at a 263 total for a 30 target course.
I came to that number from my ASA state qualifiers and the state shoot this year.
Six total shoots
Some fine shootin'!
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Old 09-24-2021, 12:37 PM   #32
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8.77 ave per arrow puts me at a 263 total for a 30 target course. I came to that number from my ASA state qualifiers and the state shoot this year. Six total shoots
Definitely a solid number sir! Especially with the low/high 12's they usually run in ASA

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