Arrow weight for hunting 45lb recurve?

[BLACKFINTURKEY]

I ordered some arrows for my new bow and now I’m thinking I messed up! The bow is a Ben Pearson 7058 45#@28” my compound DL was 28.5 or 29 I can’t remember exactly.

The arrows I ordered mainly just for practice for now are traditional only carbon 9.1gpi I think they will be around 30” finished I plan using 50gr inserts and 125gr heads just because I have some already. That will put me at 460.73gr total. According to 3 rivers I should be able to shoot 200gr up front at that arrow length and draw weight and still be spined correctly.

Does this set up sound good enough to get deep penetration on hogs?

[Horsehide]

What spine shaft are you using?
Switching from a 125 to 200.gr head should make quite a difference.
I use 29” 400 shafts and 200 gr head with a 50 gr in/outsert out of my r/d #46@28” longbow, with an actual DL right at 28”. Arrow weight is 540gr.

[BLACKFINTURKEY]

Originally Posted by Horsehide

What spine shaft are you using?
Switching from a 125 to 200.gr head should make quite a difference.
I use 29” 400 shafts and 200 gr head with a 50 gr in/outsert out of my r/d #46@28” longbow, with an actual DL right at 28”. Arrow weight is 540gr.

The arrows I’m currently shooting are black Eagle 340s they are my compound bow arrows I’m just playing with them. I’ve only been shooting trad for 4 days lol so I’m not really set up yet.

[Horsehide]

And yes, It performs well on hogs, with a sharp broadhead.

[DRT]

Those are probably pretty stiff no? You would probably need lighter spine like long 400s or 500s.

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[BLACKFINTURKEY]

Originally Posted by DRT

Those are probably pretty stiff no? You would probably need lighter spine like long 400s or 500s.

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Yeah for sure. I ordered some 400s I just wanted to ask y’all if those will be the right spine. According to 3 rivers chart they recommend 400s but I feel like I’ll be right on the edge of too weak of a spine adding 200+ grains up front.

[DRT]

Originally Posted by BLACKFINTURKEY

Yeah for sure. I ordered some 400s I just wanted to ask y’all if those will be the right spine. According to 3 rivers chart they recommend 400s but I feel like I’ll be right on the edge of too weak of a spine adding 200+ grains up front.

I can shoot 400s at 45lbs but my bows are cut last center. It makes a significant difference.

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[60 Deluxe]

You may need to leave the shafts full length and move the tip weight up to a total of 250 grains. About the only way to do that is with 100 grain brass inserts.

[Bisch]

Originally Posted by 60 Deluxe

You may need to leave the shafts full length and move the tip weight up to a total of 250 grains. About the only way to do that is with 100 grain brass inserts.

I’m in this camp^^^^^^.

Bisch


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[BLACKFINTURKEY]

Originally Posted by 60 Deluxe

You may need to leave the shafts full length and move the tip weight up to a total of 250 grains. About the only way to do that is with 100 grain brass inserts.

If I do a 50gr insert and a 200gr head that would accomplish the same thing right? Would my selection of broad heads be limited?

[jerp]

Originally Posted by BLACKFINTURKEY

If I do a 50gr insert and a 200gr head that would accomplish the same thing right? Would my selection of broad heads be limited?

If you have a strong preference as to the heads you want to shoot you can start there in the weight they are available then build backwards as to inserts, shaft spine and length, etc

[BLACKFINTURKEY]

Originally Posted by jerp

If you have a strong preference as to the heads you want to shoot you can start there in the weight they are available then build backwards as to inserts, shaft spine and length, etc

Really have no preference just want to make sure I can get these arrows to spine right with my set up.

[Trumpkin]

I'm no "high FOC" guy. Nor am I a "HEAVY ARROWS OMGZZZZZ" guy...

I like a great arrow tune, sharp broadheads, and 10-11 gpp. Wherever that puts ya.

[HunterB]

With normal draw length, I would think you’ll likely need to front load them to get the spine right with 400s. 200 grains+ sounds like the right direction, but you won’t know until you get your form down and start tinkering. If you want to go the heavy/reusable broadhead route, I’d check out vpa. Whatever weight you end up needing they probably make, and I’ve never had one I recovered not be able to be resharpened and go back in the quiver. As long as you’re well tuned with a sharp broadhead you should be good, I personally shoot around 9.5 and 11 GPP depending what the bow likes


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[jerp]

Here are the 200 grain screw-in broadheads sold by Three Rivers - plenty of choices:
https://www.3riversarchery.com/searc...weight:200:200

[BLACKFINTURKEY]

Originally Posted by jerp

Here are the 200 grain screw-in broadheads sold by Three Rivers - plenty of choices:
https://www.3riversarchery.com/searc...weight:200:200

I am considering leaning towards Simmons broad heads, but I’m not hung up on them. They look like a solid head for a fair price.

[Briar Friar]

Originally Posted by BLACKFINTURKEY

I am considering leaning towards Simmons broad heads, but I’m not hung up on them. They look like a solid head for a fair price.

Which ones?

For me, the tiger sharks grab alot of air and exacerbate poor form or a tune that is mildly off. I bought them from a TBHer who I think sold them because they penetrated poorly, though and because they have a wide cut. Theyre a pain in the rear to sharpen.

Go for a 3 length to 1 width ratio or there abouts if you can for penetration. Consider two blade with bleeders or three blade for blood trails.

I think 500 spines might be easier to tune than 400. Going 500 from weak to stiff you might have room to cut. Versus 400 working stiff to weak you may have no room to cut.

[DRT]

I have some Tiger sharks. They sharped well on a Rada sharpener. That said I had trouble with them bending.
I killed a pig with my last one the other day. Couldn't find the arrow although the pig only ran 40 yards or so and ended up 25 yards from the feeder.
Good riddance I say.

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[BLACKFINTURKEY]

Originally Posted by DRT

I have some Tiger sharks. They sharped well on a Rada sharpener. That said I had trouble with them bending.
I killed a pig with my last one the other day. Couldn't find the arrow although the pig only ran 40 yards or so and ended up 25 yards from the feeder.
Good riddance I say.

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Well that might be enough for me to look at something different.

[Trumpkin]

VPA makes great heads from 125-300 grains.

Rocky Mountain Specialty gear as well.

Simmons are fun. The Tree sharks especially. But they are prone to bending just a bit on hard impact. The deer and elk I've killed with them didn't complain any though.

You can get Iron Wills up to 250 grains as well.

[SJP51]

Originally Posted by BLACKFINTURKEY

Does this set up sound good enough to get deep penetration on hogs?

It's heavy enough that with average arrow speed and a sharp broadhead it will get good penetation on hogs.

[2rsquared]

As others have mentioned.... 9 - 11 grains per pound of draw weight is a good rule of thumb. Good arrow flight and a sharp broadhead is more important than speed.