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Old 09-23-2020, 11:51 PM   #201
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I only had one hunter come across where I was hunting last year. But that was my fault ‘cause I set up on close to a road trying to sneak on a couple nilgai. Other than that, I only saw other hunters before and after the hunt. The number of hunters appeared to decrease significantly as the days went by. The last couple of days there were few of us out there.
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Old 09-24-2020, 11:48 AM   #202
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I'm going to go ahead and call it now, I'm killing a bull this hunt!


So its me and my 11 year old son, possibly my 12 year old daughter - we were all on the application. First ever hunt here, but not our first Nilgai hunt. I've read a lot of your posts and others and it seems that even though there are 200 permits per hunt, there is a decent success rate. Any advice for a dad and his younger kids on this hunt? How often are hunters on top of each other?
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Old 09-24-2020, 12:37 PM   #203
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So its me and my 11 year old son, possibly my 12 year old daughter - we were all on the application. First ever hunt here, but not our first Nilgai hunt. I've read a lot of your posts and others and it seems that even though there are 200 permits per hunt, there is a decent success rate. Any advice for a dad and his younger kids on this hunt? How often are hunters on top of each other?
Great that you got drawn. I don't know what you consider as a "decent" success rate. I've calculated it from total animals harvested each hunt in comparison to total permits per hunt/# of hunters present. I consider the success rate to be very low. Less than about 10% success rate for any animal (doe, buck, nilgai, hog). 10% success rate would mean at least 20+ hunters were successful if all 200 were present, not including hunters who harvested more than 1 animal. Less than 1% success rate for a mature buck or mature nilgai with a bow.

I'm not a father, so I can't back up any advice for a father and younger kids for this hunt other than that I would personally would not take kids that age on this hunt. Some have before, and I know of 1 that was successful. Archery hunting LA is not a simple task with kids, I imagine. Heck its not simple solo as an adult, and if you do actually kill a deer/nilgai it is very challenging to retrieve the animal with a team of 3 or more adults. I don't see kids being any easier.

There has been several days where all my hunts were interrupted by other hunters. Some days were very frustrating because I couldn't shake other hunters and not have a disturbance. Part of the challenge.
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Old 09-24-2020, 01:41 PM   #204
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So its me and my 11 year old son, possibly my 12 year old daughter - we were all on the application. First ever hunt here, but not our first Nilgai hunt. I've read a lot of your posts and others and it seems that even though there are 200 permits per hunt, there is a decent success rate. Any advice for a dad and his younger kids on this hunt? How often are hunters on top of each other?
Which dates did you draw?

If it's the Dec 4-8, I'm game to help with the kiddos.
I have a 12 yr old boy, although he didn't apply for this hunt. Helping a youngster have fun would be worth donating my time and scouting efforts.
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Old 09-24-2020, 01:55 PM   #205
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So its me and my 11 year old son, possibly my 12 year old daughter - we were all on the application. First ever hunt here, but not our first Nilgai hunt. I've read a lot of your posts and others and it seems that even though there are 200 permits per hunt, there is a decent success rate. Any advice for a dad and his younger kids on this hunt? How often are hunters on top of each other?


Thatís awesome that you will be taking your kids with you! They will be in for quite an adventure! I donít know their ability level (or yours) but I would just set expectations around having a great time together outdoors. The place is amazing and really cool to see so much wildlife. The success rates are pretty low for archery, pretty good for rifle tho. But you should still have opportunities and see lots of waterfowl, all kinds of migratory birds (even pink flamingos), deer and Nilgai, bobcats (I think I saw 3), tortise, hogs, lots of javelinas... you or your kids may not get drawn back but I bet it will still be an awesome experience for them to have with their Dad. And if any of you are successful then it just gets even better.

Iíve never hunted with kids so I may not be the best to give advice... but...

I imagine your best bet is going to be corralling them into a pop-up blind to hide the fidgeting and muffle the kid noise. If you see something far away that you can stalk you may be able to leave them there in the blind while you make an attempt? Cell phones work pretty decent out there so you should be able to stay in contact with them.

if they have bikes then I would bring them too as you can all get a little further out. Or it may help just to ride bikes around on the main roads some if they get bored during the hunt. If they all have binos you can ride and glass and keep them busy for a while. Just stay to the main gravel roads and youíll be ok. If you get out onto the dirt you are going to be repairing flat tires all day.

Also, they would probably enjoy hanging out by the check in station to see the critters get weighed in and hear the stories. Worth a stop on your way in/out.

I think itís something your kids will truly enjoy and remember for a lifetime, and hopefully fosters that hunting mindset.
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Old 09-24-2020, 07:45 PM   #206
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Accessories from Sherpa arrived today. Really am impressed with the fit and finish of this. Only issue I have now is apparently tubeless bike tires are a pain in the rear to get in. Hopefully my local bike shop gets them in before November.





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Old 09-24-2020, 08:30 PM   #207
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That’s a pretty nice setup there. I’m looking for a used bike to pick up before this hunt hopefully.

If anyone going for the 11/6 archery hunt is interested in splitting a rental in Laguna Vista I am interested. Flying solo here and will be driving from Austin area.
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Old 09-24-2020, 09:31 PM   #208
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Accessories from Sherpa arrived today. Really am impressed with the fit and finish of this. Only issue I have now is apparently tubeless bike tires are a pain in the rear to get in. Hopefully my local bike shop gets them in before November.


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Why do you want tubeless? Are they better? I am gonna put tire liners in mine. Hopefully, if something pokes thru the tire the liner will stop it. If not I will have the military grade slime in the tube.
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Old 09-24-2020, 09:59 PM   #209
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Old 09-24-2020, 10:20 PM   #210
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You can also get the solid tubes.
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Old 09-24-2020, 11:41 PM   #211
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I'd be interested to see how that turns out. fat tire ? That is what I have on my Ebike.

If you have to patch a tire on the trail, how do you get the tire to seal to the rim? C02 cartridge? I am all for keeping it simple. this flat preventive stuff adds up in cost.
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Old 09-24-2020, 11:48 PM   #212
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Why do you want tubeless? Are they better? I am gonna put tire liners in mine. Hopefully, if something pokes thru the tire the liner will stop it. If not I will have the military grade slime in the tube.


I had liners last year and it was a joke. Didnít do a thing to stop the mesquite thorns. Tubeless is the way to go.
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Old 09-25-2020, 01:47 AM   #213
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How tall is the grass out there this year?
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Old 09-25-2020, 08:07 AM   #214
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So its me and my 11 year old son, possibly my 12 year old daughter - we were all on the application. First ever hunt here, but not our first Nilgai hunt. I've read a lot of your posts and others and it seems that even though there are 200 permits per hunt, there is a decent success rate. Any advice for a dad and his younger kids on this hunt? How often are hunters on top of each other?

There are a lot of rattlesnakes here. Be very careful with kids


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Old 09-25-2020, 10:37 AM   #215
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So its me and my 11 year old son, possibly my 12 year old daughter - we were all on the application. First ever hunt here, but not our first Nilgai hunt. I've read a lot of your posts and others and it seems that even though there are 200 permits per hunt, there is a decent success rate. Any advice for a dad and his younger kids on this hunt? How often are hunters on top of each other?
I personally wouldn't take my kids on this hunt. Its a long hike in and like GBludau said the success rates are very low. If you're in a blind over a feeder then sure by all means. I couldn't imagine keeping my 10 yr old son quiet and still for an all day hunt over the course of a few days. He would surely get bored.
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Old 09-25-2020, 11:59 AM   #216
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If I had kids I'd bring them -- rattlesnakes, swarming killer bees, swirling gators, attacking pumas, ravenous ocelots, raging boars, blood sucking insects -- if they survive there will be some legendary tales to be told.

I'd not 100% focus on actually hunting per say, more about the opportunity / adventure if you are bringing them.

You would need to go slower/keep a watchful eye but overall if you did I think the truck ride to the place is more dangerous than actually getting into the muck.
If you wanted to bring them and are 100% focused on hunting then yeah it would be bad for both you and the kids (think this is true for all hunting events) -- if that is the case, sure leave them at home.

Everything you do each day has risk, if you leave them at home, there is a dozen things they can do, or others to them, while you are gone that would end just as badly, arguably with higher probability. We don't know the future.
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Old 09-26-2020, 02:16 PM   #217
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I think it depends on the kids. If they aren’t accustomed to low success rates, dealing with mosquitoes & chiggers, and watching where they step, it could be a mistake to bring them. I brought my boys (10&12 now 11&13) last year and theyre very excited to go back and get a shot at the big blue bulls they saw. Unfortunately we’re on a streak of three hunts without drawing blood but that does have the benefit of managing their expectations. Its not like they’re going from sitting a feeder to something totally different. Of course bringing kids will limit how hard you can go but as a father that’s part of the game! As said above the hunt is secondary to the rest of the experience.
We’ll be there for the mid November hunt and nothing gets a pass this year!
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Old 09-27-2020, 10:34 PM   #218
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Who will all be there for the 13-17th Hunt??


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Old 09-27-2020, 10:42 PM   #219
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I'll be there for that hunt.
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Old 09-27-2020, 10:49 PM   #220
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My Dad began taking me to the Aransas Wildlife Refuge for that Archery hunt when I was ten. Went through all kinds of stuff. Deep water, snakes, gator-infested waters, etc. He would put me in a tree with a whistle/bow and he would go hunt. LOL. Some kids can handle this stuff. By the time I was 12 or 13 I was good to hunt on my own. We always split up. Been lost a few times out there as well. Reaganandkristy.....I would at least take one of them.
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Old 09-28-2020, 12:23 PM   #221
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Doesn't that Sherpa cart come with "Flat-Free Wheels"?
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Old 09-28-2020, 12:24 PM   #222
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Old 09-28-2020, 12:26 PM   #223
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How tall is the grass out there this year?
Hurricane Hanna brought a lot of water. Everything is lush green around here as we have had many sunny days since. Aside from Hanna, we have had lots of rain and sun. So yes the grass is tall. Mosquitos are bad too because of it.
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Old 09-28-2020, 04:07 PM   #224
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Hurricane Hanna brought a lot of water. Everything is lush green around here as we have had many sunny days since. Aside from Hanna, we have had lots of rain and sun. So yes the grass is tall. Mosquitos are bad too because of it.

You arenít joking. Weíve gotten more rain this year down here than any year in recent memory. And yes, everything is very green and the mosquitoes are horrible. So plan accordingly.


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Old 09-28-2020, 06:55 PM   #225
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With it being real green, would the Nilgai be more inclined to feed out in the open grassy areas?
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Old 10-01-2020, 03:26 PM   #226
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Millennium came in this week. Got it assembled and tested mounting and hauling it on my game cart. Made a few tweaks to the game cart. I added some cheap foam pipe insulation to cushion the cart from the tripod. Couple of straps and it pulls great! Relatively quiet as well with the addition of the foam. Still plenty of room to stow my backpack and whatever else. Carries much better with the seat removed from the tripod. Itís an easy reinstall and i can unpack and assemble the stand in under 3 minutes. Still need dang tires, but we are 90% there.







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Old 10-04-2020, 06:34 PM   #227
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I would absolutely recommend spare tubes, tube liners, tools, and a pump as stated earlier. Ebikes are awesome till they get a flat. Then youíre pushing a really heavy bike. Those fat tires also come off the rim when flat and rub the fork making it even worse.
yes sir...you are correct. I did have a little juice left to help push the bike. But I was 4 miles into unit 2. Rear tire went flat and 2 CO2 canisters and it would not hold air. LONG WALK back.

I had liners & the high dollar slime. I may pour a butt load of slime next go around.
Met up with Benson and rode around. I took us into some bad stuff. Water/marsh was deeper than I thought. Sorry Ben. I know where NOT to go. my ebike needs a good cleaning.

The good news ...They mowed/shredded the trails/roads. The bad news ...they mowed/shredded the roads. the roads were covered in thorns from bushes and mesquites that were shredded.
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Old 10-05-2020, 11:02 AM   #228
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I had liners & the high dollar slime. .....The good news ...They mowed/shredded the trails/roads. The bad news ...they mowed/shredded the roads. the roads were covered in thorns from bushes and mesquites that were shredded.
Thanks Huntindad. I enjoyed the tour. It was challenging to say the least. I learned a lot about myself and the area. Mostly how physically unprepared I am. LOL! This hunt will definitely challenge you physically. I was toast by midday when we parted ways.

Liner and slime appears to be a weak solution. I too ended up with a flat tire the following day. I haven't done the forensics on the tire but suspect there will be a thorn hole some where on the side wall missing the liner.
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Old 10-09-2020, 06:57 PM   #229
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I was told by a buddy that there would be no in person orientation mtg this year due to covid? Can anyone confirm this? Is there something online instead or just a rumor?
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Old 10-09-2020, 06:59 PM   #230
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Old 10-09-2020, 08:20 PM   #231
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That did not mention tarping your truck or cattle fever ticks.
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Old 10-09-2020, 08:22 PM   #232
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There was a separate email for that type of stuff. Basically, just take the MEAT ONLY out of the field and you donít need to do any extra steps.


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? I only got the one email with my permit attached and the rules (which says mandatory orientation at 9am).
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Old 10-09-2020, 08:50 PM   #234
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Iím sure Sergio will send out another email with your new requirements like they did with us. Weíre hunting now and we just got the updated emails with rules and procedures on Wednesday


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I’m here now. Shot a big bull this morning. The orientation is online and if you bring hide out it has to be treated or frozen for 24 hours before it can leave the property. When I went to the check station I caped out my head and the tick lady took my hide, tagged it and put it in the freezer with the tarp I used to keep the animal off the ground while I dressed him. It’s really not that big of a deal but I would bring a couple tarps.
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Old 10-09-2020, 10:53 PM   #236
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Mudmauler and rlum, what hunts are you guys hunting right now? None of the archery hunts started till November?
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Old 10-10-2020, 09:02 AM   #237
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.... Shot a big bull this morning. The orientation is online and if you bring hide out it has to be treated or frozen for 24 hours before it can leave the property.
I spoke to a gentleman at Laguna Atascosa. He said this was not obligatory, but optional for research. He mentioned that there would be no check in or check out.
I was asking about archery dates though.
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Old 10-10-2020, 10:36 AM   #238
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The exotic rifle hunt from last April got postponed until this weekend.
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Old 10-10-2020, 10:40 AM   #239
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Well thatís a load of crap for us archery hunters! I understand things get postponed and moved but why right before the archery hunts? Good luck on the rest of your hunt!


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Old 10-10-2020, 10:40 AM   #240
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How was game activity? Iím doing rifle hunt Iím January
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Old 10-10-2020, 10:58 AM   #241
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Iím putting in for the Laguna Atascosa Archery & Muzzleloader, and the Lower RGV NWR East lake and Teniente centerfire January/February. Hopefully can find a tag with one of these, and thankful for the options. Has anyone been on all 3? Preference for one location over the other? Is a .270 130/150grain enough for a Nilgai?
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Old 10-10-2020, 11:19 AM   #242
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Awesome. Post up some pics.

And thatís plenty of time between this hunt and the first archery hunt.
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Iím here now. Shot a big bull this morning. The orientation is online and if you bring hide out it has to be treated or frozen for 24 hours before it can leave the property. When I went to the check station I caped out my head and the tick lady took my hide, tagged it and put it in the freezer with the tarp I used to keep the animal off the ground while I dressed him. Itís really not that big of a deal but I would bring a couple tarps.

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Old 10-10-2020, 01:09 PM   #244
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Had no idea there was a hint going on! Yíall keep us updated on activity! Looks like I wonít be getting much work done this week, HaHa!
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No board this hunt but there have been 5 bull taken as of 3 and his afternoon.
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Old 10-10-2020, 08:44 PM   #248
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Is this rifle or archery?
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Old 10-10-2020, 09:49 PM   #249
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Well the hunt going on now is rifle, due to the fact the hunt from last April was postponed. Does anyone if they did a survey yet for deer/Nilgai count? They normally do.


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Old 10-11-2020, 01:18 AM   #250
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Another big bull down.
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