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Old 11-27-2019, 04:59 PM   #1
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Question LEO indicted for murdering road rage suspect

Need help understanding this. From reading the article, he should thanked not indicted. What am I missing?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/oklahoma-...urder-shooting
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Old 11-27-2019, 05:13 PM   #2
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Don't get it either-- hopefully the trial brings out the facts and justice is served. A violent felon shooting at the cops and multiple other innocents and this officer is indicted for murder?
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Old 11-27-2019, 05:13 PM   #3
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Excess rounds? Don’t know.


A wise man’s heart inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left.
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Old 11-27-2019, 05:35 PM   #4
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If article correct, officer will walk. If you are justified in shooting, you may shoot until the threat no longer exists.
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Old 11-27-2019, 05:43 PM   #5
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It is almost certainly a good charge of Murder.

He should have only shot 45 rounds, then walked up to see if she was incapacitated. Then if she would have shot him, others could have justified shooting her again.





I shouldn’t have to but I had better put a sarcasm disclaimer.
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Old 11-27-2019, 05:58 PM   #6
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60 rounds?! Oh he definitely needs to be disciplined for wasting department resources and taxpayer money. A 5 day class in marksmanship should be adequate.
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Old 11-27-2019, 05:59 PM   #7
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Wouldn’t have thought this would happen in Oklahoma California or Illinois sure Oklahoma seriously?
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Old 11-27-2019, 06:04 PM   #8
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Dont pay to be a cop
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Old 11-27-2019, 06:10 PM   #9
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It is almost certainly a good charge of Murder.

He should have only shot 45 rounds, then walked up to see if she was incapacitated. Then if she would have shot him, others could have justified shooting her again.





I shouldn’t have to but I had better put a sarcasm disclaimer.
Unfortunately, your sarcasm disclaimer is needed these days. I have a hard time telling the difference between serious comments and sarcasm sometimes now. I kept looking for one on the news story about this officer being indicted but never found one. Luckily on here I believe everyone picked up on the sarcasm.
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Old 11-27-2019, 06:10 PM   #10
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Man if thats the whole story then its a sad day for law enforcement.
Glad im no longer in it.
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Old 11-27-2019, 06:44 PM   #11
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60 rounds?! Oh he definitely needs to be disciplined for wasting department resources and taxpayer money. A 5 day class in marksmanship should be adequate.
They were driving he shot through his windshield at her.
Depending on speed it might have been good shooting lol
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:33 PM   #12
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THAT was one of the most difficult reads I'm still trying to shake the whole wth off my mind?? Seriously...where is the closure, interview of judge / jurors as to cough: Why??

There had better be a feel good follow up to this story...30 rounds?? That is only 2 mags & a minute with the m16?? Why would the # of rounds mean anything vs the facts of justice??
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:34 PM   #13
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Glad I'm not LEO
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:43 PM   #14
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Grand Jury just sends it on down the line. I don't like it but will probably get tossed out. At least I hope so.
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:46 PM   #15
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Crazy stupid to indict the officer. Hell even in the LTC class the instructor said shoot until you stop the threat or run out of ammo. Same should apply with LEO.


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Old 11-27-2019, 07:49 PM   #16
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No chance he’s convicted in Oklahoma, less than zero.


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Old 11-27-2019, 08:19 PM   #17
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In the words of my firearms instructor.


"If hes good enough to shoot once, hes good enough to shoot a whole bunch"

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Old 11-27-2019, 11:01 PM   #18
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I would like to see the the video but your link only shows me crap video of Hunter Biden and an Oklahoma Cop getting punched in the face and the letting his K9 out
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:25 AM   #19
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I would like to see the the video but your link only shows me crap video of Hunter Biden and an Oklahoma Cop getting punched in the face and the letting his K9 out


Go read her crazy rants on Facebook and it will give you an understanding of her mental state.


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Old 11-28-2019, 12:50 AM   #20
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Grand juries can easily be influenced by what is presented to them. It's been a long while since I testified in front of a GJ but, unless things have changed the prosecution side presents their side to the GJ with no rebuttal from the the defense. Any rouge/liberal prosecutor can "sell" an indictment to a GJ.
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Old 11-28-2019, 01:41 AM   #21
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If someone shoots at you and gets their *** shot off there shouldn't be any issue. He shot until he felt she wasn't a threat anymore. She wasn't.....He was right.

Back in the 70's a cop here shot someone in the head through the windshield of his car during a pursuit and nothing was ever said about it. He was a one man road block. He also shot a crazy woman and killed her dead during his time as a police officer. Play stupid games,win stupid prizes. I can't believe that's even an issue. Get your crap together Oklahoma!

Not all that long ago a cop shot a crap ton of bullets through the windshield of his cruiser at a psycho and they ended up shooting him up on a dirt road. How is this any different? Because the suspect had a vagina?

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Old 11-28-2019, 01:55 AM   #22
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If you're up against anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die you might want to have a few extra rounds at your disposal.
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Old 11-28-2019, 04:40 AM   #23
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Not all that long ago a cop shot a crap ton of bullets through the windshield of his cruiser at a psycho and they ended up shooting him up on a dirt road. How is this any different? Because the suspect had a vagina?[/QUOTE]

I’ve watched that video many times! That guy is a beast! Driving, calmly grabs his rifle, loads it, and commenced to send rounds down range.
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Old 11-28-2019, 06:37 AM   #24
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New York State chief judge Sol Wachtler was famously quoted by Tom Wolfe in The Bonfire of the Vanities that "a grand jury would 'indict a ham sandwich,' if that's what you wanted."
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Old 11-28-2019, 10:12 AM   #25
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I’ve watched that video many times! That guy is a beast! Driving, calmly grabs his rifle, loads it, and commenced to send rounds down range.
Yeah ol' boy was pretty big and bad until his vehicle sounded like a pinball machine from all those bullets zingin through it. That's probably about the time he realized he wasn't as bad as he thought. Bet he got about two inches taller sittin in that drivers seat and it started smellin like hell in there.
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:19 PM   #26
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Wouldn’t have thought this would happen in Oklahoma California or Illinois sure Oklahoma seriously?
There are more lawyers in Oklahoma than meth dealers and that's saying something. Just a prosecutor trying to make a name for themselves out of all the other lawyers in this state. Most of the lawyers in this state are liberal so that should explain their rationale for why they are pursuing this. I don't see them winning this case against the officer.
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Old 11-28-2019, 01:50 PM   #27
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She probably lost all her money at the Indian casino and didn't have anything left for the dispensary. I think that's all they do in Oklahoma anymore. There's a casino and a weed store in every town!


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