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Old 10-24-2018, 12:20 PM   #101
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And all the sheeple who think your guns are going to get taken away by a Democrat or their gun rights are going to be infringed upon, please give me a break. If you really think someone is going to come in and make a law for you to give up your guns or not be able to purchase them, then I dont know what else to tell you. You already have your tinfoil hat on. Hell, the last democratic PRESIDENT didnt take your guns. Hillary didnt take your guns. Pelosi is not going to take your guns. Reid is not going to take your guns. McCarthy, Scalise, and Hoyer are not going to take your guns. They all try, but that will never happen. So to say that a Lt. Governor is going to restrict gun ownership, take your guns, take away your right, blah blah blah, and that is your reasoning for not voting for him is ludicrous.

And to answer the question about voting for Lt. Governor. Yes, you do not vote for him. Leave that box blank. Dont give him the opportunity. Hell, dont vote for any of them, but especially dont vote for him because of the straight ticket BS.
Really? All of those people have said that they are going to take away our guns and you don't believe them? Progun politicians are the only thing standing in their way or they absolutely would. I'm sorry, but this is just an illustration of political ignorance.
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Want to talk about ignorance? You say they all try to take our gun rights, then say they won't. If people keep voting for them, and they get control, then yes, yes they can affect our gun rights. Educate yourself teach.
So when the Democrats controlled the white house and the leg why didn't they ban all guns?? Probably because it is a constitutional right and would take alot to get that reversed. As opposed to idiots in the state senate that have way more effect on daily lives and many of us our livelihoods.
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So when the Democrats controlled the white house and the leg why didn't they ban all guns?? Probably because it is a constitutional right and would take alot to get that reversed. As opposed to idiots in the state senate that have way more effect on daily lives and many of us our livelihoods.
Ok? How many gun laws are on the books? How many more do you want on the books?

BTW, I never said take them away. I said gun rights. We have lost WAY TOO MANY already, 2nd amendment be ****ed.
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Old 10-24-2018, 12:35 PM   #104
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Vote straight republican ticket. The worst republican is better than the best democrat
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Old 10-24-2018, 12:40 PM   #105
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Really? All of those people have said that they are going to take away our guns and you don't believe them? Progun politicians are the only thing standing in their way or they absolutely would. I'm sorry, but this is just an illustration of political ignorance.
They have "SAID" they are going to take away our guns. They have been saying that for decades. Has it happened? Is it going to happen? Republicans and others have "SAID" that lottery money is used to support public education, but we all know that it does not. Apt has been "SAID", but nothing has been DONE. How many times has any politician said they are going to lower taxes, get rid of OBAMACARE, or anything else to get votes, yet has actually not acted upon their words. ALL THE TIME! Saying you or better yet, threatening to do something has no meaning when all they do is SAY!

You are right. It is an illustration of political ignorance. Your own. Do you know what it actually takes to overturn an amendment of the constitution? Do you know the process? I highly doubt you do. It wont happen. All that lip service from politicians is just to win votes.

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So when the Democrats controlled the white house and the leg why didn't they ban all guns?? Probably because it is a constitutional right and would take alot to get that reversed. As opposed to idiots in the state senate that have way more effect on daily lives and many of us our livelihoods.
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I've never voted for a Democrat before, but will this time...I wont be voting for the democrats but rather AGAINST Dan Patrick. He is killing education and teachers in our state!

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Old 10-24-2018, 12:44 PM   #107
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Many folks do not realize how powerful the Lt Governor is.

The LtG has the authority to decide all parliamentary questions and to use his own discretion in senate procedural rules.

And since the constitution gives the state senate the authority to write its own rules, the position of the LtG directs how the senate conducts its business.

LtG also sets the legislative calendar as well as the order in which the bills are presented to the senate.

This gives the LtG the power to tack his own agenda onto larger bills as well as leaving the ones that they do not care for in the dark.
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Old 10-24-2018, 12:46 PM   #108
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Well for me folks Lt. Dan got my vote the first time and he will never get it again, that doesn't make me a democrat and it doesn't mean I will vote for one have in the past if it was the right person but it has been few.

He had his chance and he let us down he continues to blow smoke up peoples butts about education and property taxes. Abbott is on notice for me this is his last chance to get something done for the students in this state.
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Randy gets it
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What specifically has Patrick done in regards to education, and property taxes?
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Vote straight republican ticket. The worst republican is better than the best democrat
I'm sorry you believe that, and that comes from somebody who is VERY conservative. To have that thought process means you probably didn't do any form of research on either candidate and simply voted for the red one. A famous line from Abraham Lincolns "Gettysburg Address" that says "of the people, by the people, for the people" is often used to define democracy. To vote based on party lines and not based on the individual and how he/she fits into your belief is incorrect IMO. 99% of the time I vote red, because those candidates fit better with my beliefs than others, however I always reserve the right to vote for the best person for the job regardless of what party they belong to.
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I will vote Mostly Red; but Dan Patrick. He helped screw the Houston and Dallas Fireman out of half their pension. He is Not a friend of the Teachers either. Their insurance has sky rocketed and no pay raises as promised; while he tries to screw them out of their pension. He is a failed buisness man and he is not from Texas. Just cause you are a Republican does not you mean have my vote.
This.

And also, a land commissioner who won't screw with the Alamo.

I went to the primary specifically to vote against Dan Patrick, Ted, and George P.
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This.

And also, a land commissioner who won't screw with the Alamo.

I went to the primary specifically to vote against Dan Patrick, Ted, and George P.
Ted? Why is that?
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Ok? How many gun laws are on the books? How many more do you want on the books?

BTW, I never said take them away. I said gun rights. We have lost WAY TOO MANY already, 2nd amendment be ****ed.
Can you tell me what gun rights of yours have been taken away in Texas? I am curious to see what those rights are that you and I no longer have because the dems took them away.
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Dale, this is what I have against him as a Texas educator since 1982. He consistently voted down adding state revenue to public schools, even as they have grown exponentially. He will not support the state contributing more than $75 dollars toward health insurance, it has been the same since 2002. He voted to cut $5.4 bil from public education. He is pro voucher, which is not a bad idea in some ways, but his goal is to privatize schools so that teachers will then have to pay into a 401k of their own. What does that do to me? It removes the thousands of teachers that will come after me and drastically affect my TRS retirement. He wants counties to take up more of the slack for public education, so that the state will not have to pay in as much toward public education. That is why property taxes continue to soar. Those are some reasons I am looking for an alternative, and did not support him or Greg Abbott, his cohort in this. They are part of the 'do nothing" group in Austin, unless of course it benefits them.
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Ted? Why is that?
Because sitting out on the right and hollering isn't doing Texas any good. While I may agree with some of his political positions, what has he actually accomplished? If Washington is a cesspool of dirty deals, or whatever, then we need somebody to get in there and make deals that benefit us. Positioning yourself as an outsider doesn't do Texas any good.

I might vote for Ted as a leader of a free and independent Texas, but as a federal guy, he hasn't been useful.

That said, I voted against him in the primary. Given the choice between him and Beto, however, I'll stick with Ted.
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They have "SAID" they are going to take away our guns. They have been saying that for decades. Has it happened? Is it going to happen? Republicans and others have "SAID" that lottery money is used to support public education, but we all know that it does not. Apt has been "SAID", but nothing has been DONE. How many times has any politician said they are going to lower taxes, get rid of OBAMACARE, or anything else to get votes, yet has actually not acted upon their words. ALL THE TIME! Saying you or better yet, threatening to do something has no meaning when all they do is SAY!

You are right. It is an illustration of political ignorance. Your own. Do you know what it actually takes to overturn an amendment of the constitution? Do you know the process? I highly doubt you do. It wont happen. All that lip service from politicians is just to win votes.



So, I can vote for people who "say" they will take away my guns or people who "say" they won't. I'll take the one who say the right thing over the ones who say the wrong thing every day of the week. Oh, and, if you don't like what's going on with state funding, the private sector awaits you.
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Because sitting out on the right and hollering isn't doing Texas any good. While I may agree with some of his political positions, what has he actually accomplished? If Washington is a cesspool of dirty deals, or whatever, then we need somebody to get in there and make deals that benefit us. Positioning yourself as an outsider doesn't do Texas any good.

I might vote for Ted as a leader of a free and independent Texas, but as a federal guy, he hasn't been useful.

That said, I voted against him in the primary. Given the choice between him and Beto, however, I'll stick with Ted.
So you're voting for bedo?
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Great, glad you taught yourself to read. You must have been a impressive 5 year old. Now get your facts right and maybe you can make a educated post.
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Dale, this is what I have against him as a Texas educator since 1982. He consistently voted down adding state revenue to public schools, even as they have grown exponentially. He will not support the state contributing more than $75 dollars toward health insurance, it has been the same since 2002. He voted to cut $5.4 bil from public education. He is pro voucher, which is not a bad idea in some ways, but his goal is to privatize schools so that teachers will then have to pay into a 401k of their own. What does that do to me? It removes the thousands of teachers that will come after me and drastically affect my TRS retirement. He wants counties to take up more of the slack for public education, so that the state will not have to pay in as much toward public education. That is why property taxes continue to soar. Those are some reasons I am looking for an alternative, and did not support him or Greg Abbott, his cohort in this. They are part of the 'do nothing" group in Austin, unless of course it benefits them.
Well said!! Is is what he hasn't done, because he openly opposes public education. Don't believe the property tax relief it is smoke and mirrors.
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I will vote Mostly Red; but Dan Patrick. He helped screw the Houston and Dallas Fireman out of half their pension. He is Not a friend of the Teachers either. Their insurance has sky rocketed and no pay raises as promised; while he tries to screw them out of their pension. He is a failed buisness man and he is not from Texas. Just cause you are a Republican does not you mean have my vote.
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So, I can vote for people who "say" they will take away my guns or people who "say" they won't. I'll take the one who say the right thing over the ones who say the wrong thing every day of the week. Oh, and, if you don't like what's going on with state funding, the private sector awaits you.
I have been in both the state funding issues hands down are more screwed up!! Not even close.
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Dale, this is what I have against him as a Texas educator since 1982. He consistently voted down adding state revenue to public schools, even as they have grown exponentially. He will not support the state contributing more than $75 dollars toward health insurance, it has been the same since 2002. He voted to cut $5.4 bil from public education. He is pro voucher, which is not a bad idea in some ways, but his goal is to privatize schools so that teachers will then have to pay into a 401k of their own. What does that do to me? It removes the thousands of teachers that will come after me and drastically affect my TRS retirement. He wants counties to take up more of the slack for public education, so that the state will not have to pay in as much toward public education. That is why property taxes continue to soar. Those are some reasons I am looking for an alternative, and did not support him or Greg Abbott, his cohort in this. They are part of the 'do nothing" group in Austin, unless of course it benefits them.


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As an educator, which do you see as the best alternative?


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Dale, this is what I have against him as a Texas educator since 1982. He consistently voted down adding state revenue to public schools, even as they have grown exponentially. He will not support the state contributing more than $75 dollars toward health insurance, it has been the same since 2002. He voted to cut $5.4 bil from public education. He is pro voucher, which is not a bad idea in some ways, but his goal is to privatize schools so that teachers will then have to pay into a 401k of their own. What does that do to me? It removes the thousands of teachers that will come after me and drastically affect my TRS retirement. He wants counties to take up more of the slack for public education, so that the state will not have to pay in as much toward public education. That is why property taxes continue to soar. Those are some reasons I am looking for an alternative, and did not support him or Greg Abbott, his cohort in this. They are part of the 'do nothing" group in Austin, unless of course it benefits them.
I have nothing more to add to this except he comes off as a phony on the commercial with old truck and work gloves
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Dale, this is what I have against him as a Texas educator since 1982. He consistently voted down adding state revenue to public schools, even as they have grown exponentially. He will not support the state contributing more than $75 dollars toward health insurance, it has been the same since 2002. He voted to cut $5.4 bil from public education. He is pro voucher, which is not a bad idea in some ways, but his goal is to privatize schools so that teachers will then have to pay into a 401k of their own. What does that do to me? It removes the thousands of teachers that will come after me and drastically affect my TRS retirement. He wants counties to take up more of the slack for public education, so that the state will not have to pay in as much toward public education. That is why property taxes continue to soar. Those are some reasons I am looking for an alternative, and did not support him or Greg Abbott, his cohort in this. They are part of the 'do nothing" group in Austin, unless of course it benefits them.
If schools have grown exponentially, then it's obvious that the tax base has as well.

I guess I don't understand the correlation between property tax, most of which goes the the ISD's, and the school districts needing money from the state. Educate me teachers.
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education funding has been cut, therefore putting the burden on the local districts. This in return is causing property taxes to go up
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So, I can vote for people who "say" they will take away my guns or people who "say" they won't. I'll take the one who say the right thing over the ones who say the wrong thing every day of the week. Oh, and, if you don't like what's going on with state funding, the private sector awaits you.
So, you are basing your vote on one issue. Gun rights. Got it. That is your platform on why you vote. You are told what you want to hear on one issue, so you base your vote on that one thing and that lip service. I actually look at the whole picture, because I know that I am not going to agree with everything that my candidate says and I might agree with something that the democrats say. Dan Patrick has been saying the "right thing" about education for years, yet been doing the complete opposite. If you researched, instead of just listened to what people say, you would see that. But I guess since he said the "right" thing about one issue, you are going to vote for him. Just to let you know, the people who say they are going to take away your guns are really not going to do it. Take off your tinfoil hat.

And I knew it was coming. The "you chose to be a teacher and if you dont like it, get out of teaching and go do something else" comment and way of thinking. I am surprised that it did not come earlier in the thread.Did you not read any of my earlier posts? As evidence by your comment, I highly doubt it. Go back and read what I posted about my choice to become an educator. It is not just about me and what I make as a teacher and coach. It has to do with the future of our state and the way it is headed. Education and funding should be at the forefront of everyone's minds. If not, you are going to cry and moan about your school district not having enough teachers to serve your kid. You are going to complain and moan about the teachers are not qualified to teach your kid. You are going to whine and moan about the coaches not calling the right play or not knowing what they are doing, because all the coaches that knew what they were doing took your advice and got out of coaching to join the private sector. You are going to gripe and moan because your little Jimmy is being coached in some sport by somebody who cant spell "ball", yet the district had to hire him 2 days before school started because they needed a teacher and had to hire anyone that could breath because the quality coaches left. And then when the quality teachers have taken your advice and left for the private sector, you will gripe and moan about that because they wanted to make more money and they really never cared about your kid in the first place. So, either way, you are going to gripe about one thing or another when it comes to public school funding!

But as long as that person said he is not going to take away my guns makes it alright.

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The exponential growth of students does not necessarily translate to more property tax revenue. Just because you have more mouths to feed does not make your property more valuable. The influx of "foreign exchange students" with special needs means more programs, and that means that the dollars are cut that much thinner to meet state mandates by our political heroes in Austin. We have a proposal that Patrick supports, school vouchers. In some cases it will be very beneficial to families needing to be able to go to a private school to escape an ISD that is failing the clientele. It will not help many rural districts because the choices are limited. It will not help student who have handicaps because most private schools do not want to take on the burden they become. It will also take public dollars and put them into private teachers salaries, and if the state was willing to make up the shortfall in my TRS account, then that would be a start. I think there are too many programs, too many mid management people who have no functional part of the education process that make too much money for what little they do. It is a mess, and Greg Abbott and Dan Patrick support it. The need for cutting regulations and mandates in Texas education is vast. They mean well, but they want us to shoulder the greatest burden and not do their part. The Texas Supreme Court agrees with me on that. That is all I have to say.
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Dale, this is what I have against him as a Texas educator since 1982. He consistently voted down adding state revenue to public schools, even as they have grown exponentially. He will not support the state contributing more than $75 dollars toward health insurance, it has been the same since 2002. He voted to cut $5.4 bil from public education. He is pro voucher, which is not a bad idea in some ways, but his goal is to privatize schools so that teachers will then have to pay into a 401k of their own. What does that do to me? It removes the thousands of teachers that will come after me and drastically affect my TRS retirement. He wants counties to take up more of the slack for public education, so that the state will not have to pay in as much toward public education. That is why property taxes continue to soar. Those are some reasons I am looking for an alternative, and did not support him or Greg Abbott, his cohort in this. They are part of the 'do nothing" group in Austin, unless of course it benefits them.
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Well, it was Scott Milder in the primary. Now, in my opinion, it is Mike Collier. Anyone really other than Dan Goeb. But if you vote for someone that cant win, the libertarian candidate, then Goeb is going to win because of the split votes between Collier and the Libertarian, McKennon.

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If schools have grown exponentially, then it's obvious that the tax base has as well.

I guess I don't understand the correlation between property tax, most of which goes the the ISD's, and the school districts needing money from the state. Educate me teachers.
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The exponential growth of students does not necessarily translate to more property tax revenue. Just because you have more mouths to feed does not make your property more valuable. The influx of "foreign exchange students" with special needs means more programs, and that means that the dollars are cut that much thinner to meet state mandates by our political heroes in Austin. We have a proposal that Patrick supports, school vouchers. In some cases it will be very beneficial to families needing to be able to go to a private school to escape an ISD that is failing the clientele. It will not help many rural districts because the choices are limited. It will not help student who have handicaps because most private schools do not want to take on the burden they become. It will also take public dollars and put them into private teachers salaries, and if the state was willing to make up the shortfall in my TRS account, then that would be a start. I think there are too many programs, too many mid management people who have no functional part of the education process that make too much money for what little they do. It is a mess, and Greg Abbott and Dan Patrick support it. The need for cutting regulations and mandates in Texas education is vast. They mean well, but they want us to shoulder the greatest burden and not do their part. The Texas Supreme Court agrees with me on that. That is all I have to say.
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Old 10-24-2018, 01:49 PM   #134
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As I said before. If you want to rid the Republican party of bad actors the time to do that is in the primaries. Very few people vote in the primaries compared to the general election.

Voting for another party just because you don’t like that person still most likely gets someone that is actually much worse.

There are more than a few that need to be replaced in the next primaries.

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Old 10-24-2018, 01:49 PM   #135
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If schools have grown exponentially, then it's obvious that the tax base has as well.

I guess I don't understand the correlation between property tax, most of which goes the the ISD's, and the school districts needing money from the state. Educate me teachers.
Depends on the district. "Robin Hood" takes property tax from what Austin considers "wealthy" districts (aka Chapter 41 districts) and sends it to Austin for "redistribution".
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Now, in my opinion, it is Mike Collier. Anyone really other than Dan Goeb.



I won't go that far, but thank you for the info.



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So the schools are wrecked due to migration and lack of funding. So supporting a democrat who only wants to further increase migration is the answer?
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Old 10-24-2018, 01:57 PM   #138
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The exponential growth of students does not necessarily translate to more property tax revenue. Just because you have more mouths to feed does not make your property more valuable. The influx of "foreign exchange students" with special needs means more programs, and that means that the dollars are cut that much thinner to meet state mandates by our political heroes in Austin. We have a proposal that Patrick supports, school vouchers. In some cases it will be very beneficial to families needing to be able to go to a private school to escape an ISD that is failing the clientele. It will not help many rural districts because the choices are limited. It will not help student who have handicaps because most private schools do not want to take on the burden they become. It will also take public dollars and put them into private teachers salaries, and if the state was willing to make up the shortfall in my TRS account, then that would be a start. I think there are too many programs, too many mid management people who have no functional part of the education process that make too much money for what little they do. It is a mess, and Greg Abbott and Dan Patrick support it. The need for cutting regulations and mandates in Texas education is vast. They mean well, but they want us to shoulder the greatest burden and not do their part. The Texas Supreme Court agrees with me on that. That is all I have to say.
"Exponential growth" absolutely means more property tax revenue. I build schools. It's extremely obvious why I build schools. Huge subdivisions popping up everywhere. Property revenues exploding due to going from a 300 acre, ag exempt farm, to 100 single family homes. The previous example is very small, btw.

I agree on the mismanagement of that revenue. And if "foreign exchange students" are an issue, then that should be on the Feds, not the state.
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It has become very difficult to unseat an incumbent. Very difficult. Especially one who does not introduce legislation, just pushes it through and blames the losses on the legislators. Lt. Governor in Texas is a powerful man, just ask Bob Bullock.
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There is no way I could vote for a Democrat I don't care how crooked their Republican opponents might or might not be. There are ethics committees and the justice system that can deal with him/her if need be.

By the way you should place most of the blame on Obama and the Democrats for expensive insurance premiums.

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"Exponential growth" absolutely means more property tax revenue. I build schools. It's extremely obvious why I build schools. Huge subdivisions popping up everywhere. Property revenues exploding due to going from a 300 acre, ag exempt farm, to 100 single family homes. The previous example is very small, btw.

I agree on the mismanagement of that revenue. And if "foreign exchange students" are an issue, then that should be on the Feds, not the state.
see post 135
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There is no way I could vote for a Democrat I don't care how crooked their Republican opponents might or might not be. There are ethics committees and the justice system that can deal with him/her if need be.

By the way you should place most of the blame on Obama and the Democrats for expensive insurance premiums.

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Well there you go! Proof that Socialism doesn't work. Why vote for someone who wants more socialism?
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But how are we going to fix the transgender bathroom epidemic without a strong leader like DP??

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They have "SAID" they are going to take away our guns. They have been saying that for decades. Has it happened? Is it going to happen? Republicans and others have "SAID" that lottery money is used to support public education, but we all know that it does not. Apt has been "SAID", but nothing has been DONE. How many times has any politician said they are going to lower taxes, get rid of OBAMACARE, or anything else to get votes, yet has actually not acted upon their words. ALL THE TIME! Saying you or better yet, threatening to do something has no meaning when all they do is SAY!



You are right. It is an illustration of political ignorance. Your own. Do you know what it actually takes to overturn an amendment of the constitution? Do you know the process? I highly doubt you do. It wont happen. All that lip service from politicians is just to win votes.









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Well there you go! Proof that Socialism doesn't work. Why vote for someone who wants more socialism?
that was in reference to mismanagement
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As I previously stated, if a group of families move into an established community, that increases the student population, especially when families are large. In a rural community that has serious financial consequences for the school district. One house or a subdivision, it matters not. There are more students flowing into the state, and the state is not keeping up with revenue for districts. The Robin Hood plan is devastating to some. Not all school districts have new schools, or new subdivisions going in. Multiple family units living in one household does not generate more property tax. Yes there are areas where growth is occurring and your example is valid. Rural schools are a different animal. You are correct in your statement that socialism does not work.
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And all the sheeple who think your guns are going to get taken away by a Democrat or their gun rights are going to be infringed upon, please give me a break. If you really think someone is going to come in and make a law for you to give up your guns or not be able to purchase them, then I dont know what else to tell you. You already have your tinfoil hat on.
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that was in reference to mismanagement
So was mine.
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