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Old 10-24-2018, 08:26 AM   #51
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I voted for the Libertarian againat Bush because of the Alamo thing.

If you voted for a single Dem you ahould be castrated.

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Old 10-24-2018, 08:37 AM   #52
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I'll do what a RED STATE is expected to do. Anything outside of GOP right now, is not anything I support.

One is so far left, I can't relate. The other isn't in numbers enough, to not count votes to those on the far left.


Critical times......sure some have some messed up agendas but......from what I've followed over the past 10 years from the non-RED representatives, it's not anywhere near my views.
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Ah yes, teachers and their inflated salaries......
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:08 AM   #54
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My wife is registered Libertarian and has been since she started voting in 1992. She actually voted for Trump though because the thought of Hillary as president scared her. I usually vote straight republican, but there have a been a few times I have voted different when I could not come to terms with the republican candidate. I have friends that are teachers and in law enforcement so that is always a concern for me. I worry for their future. But at the same time, I can not sacrifice other things I believe in. Allowing insurance companies to be able to deny preexisting conditions scares me because I have cancer and I am facing unemployment if I can't get mobile again soon. However, it is not anyone's responsibility but my own to take care of my issues, so it is a tough call for sure.
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:17 AM   #55
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Dan Patrick. Incombent. Strong conservative, staunch supporter of the 2nd admendment.

I am conservative and will not vote for this idiot! I am not a sheep I will not blindly follow people that threaten my livelihood.

He might be a strong supporter of the wall and the 2nd amendment, but he set up public ed for failure and is blowing smoke up peoples you know what about property tax. He likes to hear himself speak and creates issues where they don't exist.

Not telling anyone how to vote just my opinion about him which are based on facts.
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:20 AM   #56
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I have to laugh at all of the public servants here complaining about their bloated pensions. Go work in the private sector where you don't have inflated salaries, unions, or public pensions. It's time to either ban public unions, or slash pensions and salaries across the board.

I'll vote against those 100% of the time, as I can see through the union rhetoric.
Teachers have bloated salaries and pensions??? what planet are you living on? Just blind ignorance.
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:24 AM   #57
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I am as conservative as they come, but Dan Patrick is not the answer.
Agreed. He says one thing and does the complete OPPOSITE....
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:48 AM   #58
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I am a Houston Fireman & I can tell you he screwed my pension. We had the #1 rated public pension in the state according to the state report in 2017. And Mayor Turner(liberal Democrat, former state rep for 20 years) used Joan Huffman(conservation republican) & Dan Flyn(conservative republican) to submit a bill in Austin to cut my pension by 40% and it give 1.2 billion from my pension fund to help the other the other two city funds that had not managed their money correctly. Turner called it “shared sacrifice”, I call it Socialism! And Dan Patrick went right along with it. Turner is one of of the most corrupt politicians to ever serve in Texas, but Dan sure was quick to help him out.
I have to question your #1 rated public pension statement? Rated in what terms? Benefits or strength?

By the way, pensions are the definition of socialism on a small scale. Value made belongs to everyone in that pension, instead of a group of private account owners.

I completely agree with you Turner being a complete tool.

For all yall voting for a dem, remember there is a liberation on the ballet. Its better to vote for McKennon then Collier
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:56 AM   #59
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I've never voted for a Democrat before, but will this time...I wont be voting for the democrats but rather AGAINST Dan Patrick. He is killing education and teachers in our state!

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hopefully all the other teachers and coaches in the state do the same thing!
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I worked for a chemical plant for over 36 yrs and my retiree insurance is around $1,000 a month and teachers are complaining because their went to $300 a month. So your are going to vote for someone who believes in open borders so teachers will have more students that no comprehende englesh that we the tax payers are giving them a free education and benefits they don't deserve.
You obviously dont know what you are talking about, when you are talking about teachers. Are you saying that your individual retiree insurance, for you only, is $1000 per month? If not and $1000 is for your family, then you are not even comparing fruit to fruit.

Your comments are way off base.
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:58 AM   #61
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I have to laugh at all of the public servants here complaining about their bloated pensions. Go work in the private sector where you don't have inflated salaries, unions, or public pensions. It's time to either ban public unions, or slash pensions and salaries across the board.

I'll vote against those 100% of the time, as I can see through the union rhetoric.
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I cant speak on behalf of law enforcement or fire fighters, but I can speak for teachers since I have been one for 25 years. I wish our salaries and pensions were bloated. The current state base pay for a first year teacher is a little over $28000. I dont think anyone would consider that to be bloated. There hasn't been a raise in teacher pay from the state since 2015. That was a whopping $500 dollars. That being said, we knew pay was low coming in and were fine with that. Teachers don't teach to get rich. A major perk was the retirement plan was pretty decent. I stress WAS. Now, not so much. Some retired teachers are paying almost their entire check towards insurance. Again, a bloated pension plan would pay more than insurance. State law also prohibits teachers unions. If teachers were able to unionize, I suspect things would be much different.

The state has cut funding for public education as well, leaving it to the local districts to make up the shortfall. This is causing property taxes to continue to go up.

I consider myself to be very conservative and about as far from the left as anybody. But voting for dan patrick is bad for the future of Texas. Its sad that our country is so split right now by political parties. We should have taken George Washington's advice when he said to steer clear of political parties for they will divide the country!

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I have to laugh at all of the public servants here complaining about their bloated pensions. Go work in the private sector where you don't have inflated salaries, unions, or public pensions. It's time to either ban public unions, or slash pensions and salaries across the board.

I'll vote against those 100% of the time, as I can see through the union rhetoric.
Yeah I don’t know about that.........pretty ignorant statement IMO. Public servants such as police, first responders, educators are vastly underpaid for what they provide. Now public servants such as city/state officials in office I agree.

Whether you agree or disagree with the size of a pension someone is set to receive it is still wrong to cut it shortly before someone will retire.
And I am self employed so I have no dog in their fight, my pension is what I save/invest and I pay a ridiculous amount for insurance through independent provider.

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Old 10-24-2018, 10:03 AM   #63
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hopefully all the other teachers and coaches in the state do the same thing!
I agree. Hopefully, this happens, but I would not be surprised if it does not. I am conservative and Republican as they come, but I will not be voting for Dan Patrick. I voted against him in the primary and I will vote, for the 1st time in my life, for a Democrat for Lt. Gov.

Man, the misinformation on this thread is mind boggling. Just unbelievable!
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Sounds like a bunch of one issue voters. Sound familiar?
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:06 AM   #65
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I'm voting straight line Repub, but suggesting public servants have inflated salaries is way, way out of line. Most of them have to work 2nd jobs to pay the bills.

I'd be okay with a tax increase if I knew FOR CERTAIN the money would go straight to teachers and cops, but I believe the government would ultimately do a bait and switch and just spend it poorly like always.
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I am a Houston Fireman & I can tell you he screwed my pension. We had the #1 rated public pension in the state according to the state report in 2017. And Mayor Turner(liberal Democrat, former state rep for 20 years) used Joan Huffman(conservation republican) & Dan Flyn(conservative republican) to submit a bill in Austin to cut my pension by 40% and it give 1.2 billion from my pension fund to help the other the other two city funds that had not managed their money correctly. Turner called it “shared sacrifice”, I call it Socialism! And Dan Patrick went right along with it. Turner is one of of the most corrupt politicians to ever serve in Texas, but Dan sure was quick to help him out.
The problem is you are blaming a Lt. Governor that is elected by the entire population to overrule the government that the local (Houston citizens) put in place. That is not how government should work. I was on my local City Council and I didn't like it, if and when, the County Commissioners or State Government came in to tell us how we should conduct our business. Dan Patrick went along with those bills because that is what the locally elected officials put up and you would think would have the local support. Dan Patrick isn't amongst all these cities every day to monitor if they are doing the will of the people. You don't like your pension getting screwed over, then get better local officials to take care of business. Both Houston and Dallas City Councils screwed the pooch on the pensions as they didn't have the checks and balances being watched.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:18 AM   #67
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I have to question your #1 rated public pension statement? Rated in what terms? Benefits or strength?

By the way, pensions are the definition of socialism on a small scale. Value made belongs to everyone in that pension, instead of a group of private account owners.

I completely agree with you Turner being a complete tool.

For all yall voting for a dem, remember there is a liberation on the ballet. Its better to vote for McKennon then Collier
Sorry should have been clear. I mean the highest funding level;to be able to pay out its pension obligations.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:21 AM   #68
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Sounds like a bunch of one issue voters. Sound familiar?
Have to agree with you on this one!
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Man I may have to retire off this police work and become a teacher. I didn’t realize you guys made such an inflated salary and pension. And such a high reward easy job at that. Anyone could do it.
I would like some of these snowflakes teach for a semester for what y’all are paid.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:53 AM   #70
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Dallas City Council has been screwing everything up for decades. Is ol John Wiley Pricecstill around?

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As far as pension. Most would be fine if they would be left a lone. Patrick wants to take a pension set up for one group and hand it to another group. I have paid a good portion of my salary into my pension for over 20 years. So yes it angers folks like me when a politician sitting in a leather chair makes decisions on my future when I have had blood, ****, spit from less than deaireable folks in society on my hands to earn my retirement. It is a retirement that was part of my pay and salary when I started 24 years ago.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:56 AM   #72
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Inflated salaries? A Houston Firenan starts out at 28k a year. That qualifies him for the Lone Star Card if he has a family. Also, police, fire, & teachers do not get social security. But if you want to come risk your life like me for my over inflated salary & my crappy pension; come on. I invite you to come ride with us for a 24hr Shift, then let me know how you feel.
Not saying this is true but it was the first thing that popped up.....
A first-year firefighter earns a base salary of $42,000. After 17 years, a firefighter who has not been promoted will earn just over $60,000. Engineers - firefighters who drive the fire trucks - earn slightly more.Aug 14, 2014
King: Firefighter pay more complex than it seems - Houston Chronicle
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:01 AM   #73
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I may not vote for Patrick or Bush but you can **** sure bet I won’t be voting for a Democrat, ever!


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The problem is you are blaming a Lt. Governor that is elected by the entire population to overrule the government that the local (Houston citizens) put in place. That is not how government should work. I was on my local City Council and I didn't like it, if and when, the County Commissioners or State Government came in to tell us how we should conduct our business. Dan Patrick went along with those bills because that is what the locally elected officials put up and you would think would have the local support. Dan Patrick isn't amongst all these cities every day to monitor if they are doing the will of the people. You don't like your pension getting screwed over, then get better local officials to take care of business. Both Houston and Dallas City Councils screwed the pooch on the pensions as they didn't have the checks and balances being watched.
Exactly right
Patrick has not screwed public servants, local politicians have. And most were endorsed by those same associations
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Exactly right
Patrick has not screwed public servants, local politicians have. And most were endorsed by those same associations
local politicians have nothing to do with public education. Patrick has been very clear on his views on public education since he has been in office. Funding has gone down on his watch.
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:06 AM   #76
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Wouldn't the primary be the time to vote republicans we don't like out of office as opposed to the general election? I understand the struggle with politicians we feel have not acted republican enough, but do we really think a democrat will do a better job promoting our beliefs? Is this not the epitome of "cutting off your nose to spite your face?"
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I cant speak on behalf of law enforcement or fire fighters, but I can speak for teachers since I have been one for 25 years. I wish our salaries and pensions were bloated. The current state base pay for a first year teacher is a little over $28000. I dont think anyone would consider that to be bloated. There hasn't been a raise in teacher pay from the state since 2015. That was a whopping $500 dollars..............
Double that here in North Texas.....$28K is more like Oklahoma starting salary.....
The race to attract quality educators is intensifying once again as more North Texas school districts are offering $50,000 for a starting teacher salary.Jun 27, 2015
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Voting Red.....'cept for bush
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$50k a year for someone with a college education is not bloated in my opinion. $24 an hour.

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I will vote Mostly Red; but Dan Patrick. He helped screw the Houston and Dallas Fireman out of half their pension. He is Not a friend of the Teachers either. Their insurance has sky rocketed and no pay raises as promised; while he tries to screw them out of their pension. He is a failed buisness man and he is not from Texas. Just cause you are a Republican does not you mean have my vote.

This..... I voted all RED except him. He's not a supporter of Public Education. I'm sure he will win in a land slide but he didn't get my vote.
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As far as pension. Most would be fine if they would be left a lone. Patrick wants to take a pension set up for one group and hand it to another group. I have paid a good portion of my salary into my pension for over 20 years. So yes it angers folks like me when a politician sitting in a leather chair makes decisions on my future when I have had blood, ****, spit from less than deaireable folks in society on my hands to earn my retirement. It is a retirement that was part of my pay and salary when I started 24 years ago.
I think the non public servants feel the same about the piracy of the social security system.
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Teachers aren't the only people whose insurance has skyrocketed. Everyone under Obamacare has seen their insurance rates rise and benefits fall.

Mine and my wife's has went from $600.00 per month to over $1900.00. Insurance payments are higher than my house note. Try being self employed and have to deal what the Democrats have crammed down our throats. I'll never vote for a Democrat.
This. Obamacare has done so much damage it is really hard to comprehend....
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Sounds like a bunch of one issue voters. Sound familiar?
What else is there? I don't for a color I vote for who I think will do the best job.

When your livelihood is at stake you will probably change your mind.
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Double that here in North Texas.....$28K is more like Oklahoma starting salary.....
The race to attract quality educators is intensifying once again as more North Texas school districts are offering $50,000 for a starting teacher salary.Jun 27, 2015
Starting teacher pay reaches $50,000 in many North Texas districts ...
https://www.dallasnews.com/.../start...ny-north-texas...
the state base is set by the legislature. It is currently $28080.00 anything above that is picked up by the local districts. That money has to come from somewhere. That is why property taxes are skyrocketing throughout the state. As a teacher and a coach, I make what I consider a decent living. My wife also teaches and coaches at the college level. Her salary is about $1000 more than mine. Together, we make enough to live comfortably and not do without when we we want something. The difference in our insurance plans is crazy though. She is considered a state employee and the state pays all her insurance. She can cover our daughter for around $200 a month. My insurance by myself through the school district in over $300 on top of the $351 dollars the school district pays. If I had to put my entire family on my plan, It would be almost $20000 a month. This has never made since to me.
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Double that here in North Texas.....$28K is more like Oklahoma starting salary.....
The race to attract quality educators is intensifying once again as more North Texas school districts are offering $50,000 for a starting teacher salary.Jun 27, 2015
Starting teacher pay reaches $50,000 in many North Texas districts ...
https://www.dallasnews.com/.../start...ny-north-texas...
Again, you do not know what you are talking about. STATE BASE PAY for a teacher, are you listening, STATE BASE PAY, is $28k for a 1st year teacher. The other portion of the salary is coming from the district, so that they can hire teachers and keep teachers. That extra money comes from the district so people will want to work there. If the districts did not offer this, schools would be so understaffed that the inmates would be running the asylum. Hell, it is like that now anyway.

Ignorant people get my blood boiling, especially when they do not know what they are talking about, yet continue to talk just to hear their own voice. When your kids or grandchildren dont have a teacher that is worth a crap or dont have enough teachers in the school to teach the subject they are certified in, then you will see and I am sure you will **** and moan to someone about how your school district sucks and they are doing it all wrong. Well, bud, here are the keys to my classroom! Have at it. I spend more time on a daily basis than you do with your own child. I interact with them, teach them, comfort them, and all the stuff that comes with being a teacher. And guess what. I absolutely enjoy it and love it. I did not get into this for the money and have thought about leaving 2 different times for MORE money. But I love what I do. That does not mean that I dont think I should be compensated appropriately for the time I put in to help and mentor YOUR KID! I work 70 hour weeks and if you think I am wrong for thinking that I should be compensated correctly for that time, then I have a few more words for you.

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Yes, the Lt.Gov. is elected by the people. My problem is that he is the person who picks and chooses what legislation comes to a vote. His pet projects get first dibs. His schtick of driving an old truck wearing a ranch jacket with leather gloves that have never been used is "so nice". He is from Maryland, graduated college there, has been a psychiatric patient, and is lying through his teeth about property taxes. There is no state property tax, but the state does regulate to counties, and he is very heavy handed on that. Taxes will not go down with him, and funding for education will not return to levels of the past, even though the student populations continue to grow. He is nothing but a dumpster fire for Texas. If you want to vote straight ticket, that is fine. It defines you as one of the sheeple. I believe you should vote for people who best represent what your needs are and how they aim to help solve problems, not continue to enhance those problems. He is not a problem solver in my opinion, hence he did not receive my vote. He wields great power as Lt. Gov. I want him to lose that, now.
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:37 AM   #87
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The primaries are the time to get rid of the less than desirable in your party. Like Patrick or Sessions. However too often the party supports them so much getting a candidate that can be competitive against them is near impossible so they run unopposed. When that person becomes such a liability to the people they then become a liability to the party and we end up with a democrat in office because we didn't clean up our own mess. There are several bad republicans.
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:43 AM   #88
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Again, you do not know what you are talking about. STATE BASE PAY for a teacher, are you listening, STATE BASE PAY, is $28k for a 1st year teacher. The other portion of the salary is coming from the district, so that they can hire teachers and keep teachers. That extra money comes from the district so people will want to work there. If the districts did not offer this, schools would be so understaffed that the inmates would be running the asylum. Hell, it is like that now anyway.

Ignorant people get my blood boiling, especially when they do not know what they are talking about, yet continue to talk just to hear their own voice. When your kids or grandchildren dont have a teacher that is worth a crap or dont have enough teachers in the school to teach the subject they are certified in, then you will see and I am sure you will **** and moan to someone about how your school district sucks and they are doing it all wrong. Well, bud, here are the keys to my classroom! Have at it.
I feel the same way people blindly following someone. They don't want to know the truth about education it is easier to believe all the BS that comes from politicians. It would be nice if educators actually had a say in how schools are run instead we have no choice to be run by lawyers and software engineers. No other professions exist this way. Architects and engineers don't have a medical doctor sitting on their board do they. Education is politicized there in lies the issue.
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:45 AM   #89
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the state base is set by the legislature. It is currently $28080.00 anything above that is picked up by the local districts. That money has to come from somewhere. That is why property taxes are skyrocketing throughout the state. As a teacher and a coach, I make what I consider a decent living. My wife also teaches and coaches at the college level. Her salary is about $1000 more than mine. Together, we make enough to live comfortably and not do without when we we want something. The difference in our insurance plans is crazy though. She is considered a state employee and the state pays all her insurance. She can cover our daughter for around $200 a month. My insurance by myself through the school district in over $300 on top of the $351 dollars the school district pays. If I had to put my entire family on my plan, It would be almost $20000 a month. This has never made since to me.
High insurance premiums are not just a public sector problem.
Teachers pay is not bloated by any means but there's not a district in Texas that starts at state minimum. My mom is a retired teacher here in Texas and did quite well and her retirement isn't bad either. I need to ask her what she thinks about Patrick.
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:48 AM   #90
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There's just no way I can support Mike Collier's plans for income equality, affordable health care and higher education. Somebody has to pay for that. He has a wealth distribution undertone that aint right not to mention he favors stricter gun laws.
The libertarian Kerry McKennon is a nut job IMO.
I dont care for Patrick but what the heck do you do? Dont vote for Lt. Gov? Like others said...the primaries are the place to change your parties candidate not the general election.
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:50 AM   #91
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$50k a year for someone with a college education is not bloated in my opinion. $24 an hour.
This^^^^

More than one teacher has quit and gone to work in the refinery I work at. Less headache and a lot more beneficial on the financial end. There are people at our facility with associate degrees making $150,000.00 plus.
There are some tradeoffs. But, I do not blame them one bit for leaving the education field. Anyone that thinks politicians give a **** about anything except themselves or special interest groups had better wake up. I don't care what party you align yourself with. Do you see any politicians taking cuts in pay or giving up benefits? They certainly do not mind jacking with yours

Pathetic that some people think no one deserves decent wages, benefits, or a living wage after retirement.
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:57 AM   #92
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High insurance premiums are not just a public sector problem.
Teachers pay is not bloated by any means but there's not a district in Texas that starts at state minimum. My mom is a retired teacher here in Texas and did quite well and her retirement isn't bad either. I need to ask her what she thinks about Patrick.
Again, do your dang research before you spout off with that throw up out of your mouth? There are many schools that start at state minimum. MANY. Look it up! When did your mom retire? She probably falls under the "rule of 80". Do you know what that is? Most of us fall under the rule of 85 and the newest teachers, I believe, fall under the rule of 90 for certain benefits. Do you actually know what her retirement is? Do you know the numbers or are you spouting off some more?
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:58 AM   #93
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I can rag about Military retirement and VA Benefits but it's not a State issue. Doesn't really matter what party is in Power, it's a messed up situation.

At least here recently, I've seen corrective traction.

I know one thing, the entitlements I thought I earned have been and always will be at the hands of those in political office.

Big Blue ball continues to spin!

401k - that's the better plan IMO.
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Old 10-24-2018, 12:01 PM   #94
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High insurance premiums are not just a public sector problem.
Teachers pay is not bloated by any means but there's not a district in Texas that starts at state minimum. My mom is a retired teacher here in Texas and did quite well and her retirement isn't bad either. I need to ask her what she thinks about Patrick.
Please ask her about patrick and how her retirement income has been affected that past couple of years and get back to us. I'm always curious about this.
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There's just no way I can support Mike Collier's plans for income equality, affordable health care and higher education. Somebody has to pay for that. He has a wealth distribution undertone that aint right not to mention he favors stricter gun laws.
The libertarian Kerry McKennon is a nut job IMO.
I dont care for Patrick but what the heck do you do? Dont vote for Lt. Gov? Like others said...the primaries are the place to change your parties candidate not the general election.
And all the sheeple who think your guns are going to get taken away by a Democrat or their gun rights are going to be infringed upon, please give me a break. If you really think someone is going to come in and make a law for you to give up your guns or not be able to purchase them, then I dont know what else to tell you. You already have your tinfoil hat on. Hell, the last democratic PRESIDENT didnt take your guns. Hillary didnt take your guns. Pelosi is not going to take your guns. Reid is not going to take your guns. McCarthy, Scalise, and Hoyer are not going to take your guns. They all try, but that will never happen. So to say that a Lt. Governor is going to restrict gun ownership, take your guns, take away your right, blah blah blah, and that is your reasoning for not voting for him is ludicrous.

And to answer the question about voting for Lt. Governor. Yes, you do not vote for him. Leave that box blank. Dont give him the opportunity. Hell, dont vote for any of them, but especially dont vote for him because of the straight ticket BS.

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Old 10-24-2018, 12:06 PM   #96
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Again, do your dang research before you spout off with that throw up out of your mouth? There are many schools that start at state minimum. MANY. Look it up! When did your mom retire? She probably falls under the "rule of 80". Do you know what that is? Most of us fall under the rule of 85 and the newest teachers, I believe, fall under the rule of 90 for certain benefits. Do you actually know what her retirement is? Do you know the numbers or are you spouting off some more?
You ought to switch to decaf coach! I dont think your overpaid. I have great respect for teachers. I couldn't do your job! Mom retired from Mansfield in early 2000s.
After watching the teachers of Oklahoma get screwed over in the 23 years I lived there and watching them come here in droves, its obvious Texas is doing much better than others when it comes to public ed and $28k aint a true representation of texas pay.
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And all the sheeple who think your guns are going to get taken away by a Democrat or their gun rights are going to be infringed upon, please give me a break. If you really think someone is going to come in and make a law for you to give up your guns or not be able to purchase them, then I dont know what else to tell you. You already have your tinfoil hat on. Hell, the last democratic PRESIDENT didnt take your guns. Hillary didnt take your guns. Pelosi is not going to take your guns. Reid is not going to take your guns. McCarthy, Scalise, and Hoyer are not going to take your guns. They all try, but that will never happen. So to say that a Lt. Governor is going to restrict gun ownership, take your guns, take away your right, blah blah blah, and that is your reasoning for not voting for him is ludicrous.

And to answer the question about voting for Lt. Governor. Yes, you do not vote for him. Leave that box blank. Dont give him the opportunity. Hell, dont vote for any of them, but especially dont vote for him because of the straight ticket BS.
Want to talk about ignorance? You say they all try to take our gun rights, then say they won't. If people keep voting for them, and they get control, then yes, yes they can affect our gun rights. Educate yourself teach.
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Old 10-24-2018, 12:15 PM   #98
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I will vote Mostly Red; but Dan Patrick. He helped screw the Houston and Dallas Fireman out of half their pension. He is Not a friend of the Teachers either. Their insurance has sky rocketed and no pay raises as promised; while he tries to screw them out of their pension. He is a failed buisness man and he is not from Texas. Just cause you are a Republican does not you mean have my vote.
I know someone high up in the other guy's compaign, and I quizzed him about where he is on the issues. They guy is a closet gun grabber. Patrick isn't perfect on some things, but he is on guns.
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Old 10-24-2018, 12:19 PM   #99
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Want to talk about ignorance? You say they all try to take our gun rights, then say they won't. If people keep voting for them, and they get control, then yes, yes they can affect our gun rights. Educate yourself teach.
Yep......100% of democrats would take your guns if given the chance. Foolish to think otherwise.
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Old 10-24-2018, 12:20 PM   #100
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Want to talk about ignorance? You say they all try to take our gun rights, then say they won't. If people keep voting for them, and they get control, then yes, yes they can affect our gun rights. Educate yourself teach.
What I said is they keep on trying to take the guns away and take the gun rights away, but they will not be able to do that. They can try to do that as much as they want, but it will never happen. Learn to read a passage and deduce the information that is being given or comprehend what you read.

And I am passionate about this because it affects me, my family, and the profession that I dearly love. So, yes, I get heated when people that know nothing about teaching spout off their ignorance. I dont go into the oilfield, engineering office, insurance office, or McDonald's and claim to know what they are doing and how I could do it better. I think teachers should be afforded the same courtesy. And when someone, who is going to make the decisions for the future of my career and the future of my kids, spits lies and tries to harm my profession, I get upset.

If I offended anyone, I apologize.

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