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Old 10-31-2018, 06:54 PM   #201
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Remember a lot of Mexicans (when used as an ethnicity) came from California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Oklahoma, Kansas & Texas. The US is filled with crime, corruption, etc. I think the reason that Mexico along with the other Latin American countries where these people are from have the problems they do is because they don't have a 2nd amendment.

2nd amendment almost guarantees democracy and democracy fights corruption (mostly).
That's a very valid point.
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Trump ups the troops on the border to 15k
But there are only 7k "invaders"
So 2:1 us to them ratio
Playing right to his base
14th comments???
He knows it'll never happen but again
Playing right to his base

Gosh and i thought the Obama years were bad!
Youíre implying Trumpís two years have been worse than Obamaís!? Honestly, you just sound bitter. Economy is up, stock markets hit record highs, unemployment at record lows for blacks, Hispanics, Asians. Overall Unemployment at a 50 year low. In talks to de-nuke North Korea, RESPECTED on the world stage again, negotiating and implementing fair trade policies, and on and on.

Please explain to me how this is worse than Obama, without the bull **** rhetoric and hyperbole. Honestly, I want to hear this?
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Youíre implying Trumpís two years have been worse than Obamaís!? Honestly, you just sound bitter. Economy is up, stock markets hit record highs, unemployment at record lows for blacks, Hispanics, Asians. Overall Unemployment at a 50 year low. In talks to de-nuke North Korea, RESPECTED on the world stage again, negotiating and implementing fair trade policies, and on and on.

Please explain to me how this is worse than Obama, without the bull **** rhetoric and hyperbole. Honestly, I want to hear this?
Liberals have a hard time with reality. They live in a Utopia bubble where they believe the world is all rainbows and cotton candy.
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Old 10-31-2018, 07:32 PM   #204
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Liberals have a hard time with reality. They live in a Utopia bubble where they believe the world is all rainbows and cotton candy.
You know Brandon....that would be a great user name change for Texansfan.

I notice he's back on another current events thread attempting to incite & "asking his questions" - while still ducking the questions directed to him...

Big difference in debating a topic & just trying to be a horse's azz....

Hell, I'm still waiting for him to explain exactly HOW he's gonna offer free college to everyone WITHOUT using and/or raising taxes like he supports?
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You know Brandon....that would be a great user name change for Texansfan.

I notice he's back on another current events thread attempting to incite & "asking his questions" - while still ducking the questions directed to him...

Big difference in debating a topic & just trying to be a horse's azz....

Hell, I'm still waiting for him to explain exactly HOW he's gonna offer free college to everyone WITHOUT using and/or raising taxes like he supports?
Thatís all I ask. Iím open to having my mind changed on some issues. Give me some facts. Give me a plan for doing xyz.
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Old 10-31-2018, 07:36 PM   #206
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Gonna say it one more time and then I quit.
You just can't fix stupid
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Thatís all I ask. Iím open to having my mind changed on some issues. Give me some facts. Give me a plan for doing xyz.
yes sir...that's how it is at our REAL campfire...
Be it politics, religion or chili...a good debate & banter can often times be very educational if you're open to listening...

There are ALOT of very wise men/women on this site I really enjoy reading their thoughts, that often oppose mine...they get me thinking....and they are welcome to my campfire any day.

Then there are those like Texansfan just stirring the pot....
He'd be politely shown the gate...
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Playing to his base or doing what he thinks is right for America and the American people?

And the Obama years WERE bad!
He's not God
And when not only the majority of Americans but even members of the GOP go against him that should be his que to stand down
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He's not God
And when not only the majority of Americans but even members of the GOP go against him that should be his que to stand down
And where exactly do you get the information to support this claim; the media?

If you, the libs & the media had your way, Trump would sit idol in the White House until yall positioned yourselves to move back in...

YOU LOST...get over it already...b!tching about everything he does for 4 years will do nothing....

We had to live through Obummer, you can live through the Orange Man...
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He's not God
And when not only the majority of Americans but even members of the GOP go against him that should be his que to stand down
He is President of the United States. His main job is to protect this country and its citizens. He has called for the military to be sent to the border. He is the Commander in Chief. Who in the **** do you think you are?
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He is President of the United States. His main job is to protect this country and its citizens. He has called for the military to be sent to the border. He is the Commander in Chief. Who in the **** do you think you are?
A whiney liberal who thinks Trump is a meanie head. Trump is actually doing what real leaders with balls do. Last President we had that had the same set was Reagan
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:34 PM   #212
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He's not God
And when not only the majority of Americans but even members of the GOP go against him that should be his que to stand down
Somebody put you up to this, have you been taken hostage?
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:50 PM   #213
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In Texas we had years as Bush junior governor then president with Perry taking his place for a record number of years. It was not until Perry was running for President he decided to meet Obama getting off the plane protesting illegal immigration. He couldn’t have done more with a Republican President? Oh wait he had one many years!

It was later Perry in a debate said that if you didn’t support free college tuition for illegal aliens you didn’t have a heart.

Then we find out later Bush senior voted for Hillary. Then Bush junior decides to remain silent the entire Obama presidency but chooses to speak out publicly against Trump.

We watched the Texas border ignored under Bush senior as President, Bush as Governor, Perry as Governor, Bush as President, and Obama!

My point is that Perry and the entire Bush Family should have just as much blame as Obama!

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In Texas we had years as Bush junior governor then president with Perry taking his place for a record number of years. It was not until Perry was running for President he decided to meet Obama getting off the plane protesting illegal immigration. He couldnít have done more with a Republican President? Oh wait he had one many years!

It was later Perry in a debate said that if you didnít support free college tuition for illegal aliens you didnít have a heart.

Then we find out later Bush senior voted for Hillary. Then Bush junior decides to remain silent the entire Obama presidency but chooses to speak out publicly against Trump.

We watched the Texas border ignored under Bush senior as President, Bush as Governor, Perry as Governor, Bush as President, and Obama!

My point is that Perry and the entire Bush Family should have just as much blame as Obama!
I agree 100% with ya. Every president since Bush Sr is to blame
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I agree 100% with ya. Every president since Bush Sr is to blame
Indeed...my biggest gripe right now is that the entire nation is waiting for the caravan to arrive like THAT is the big problem?? We are maxed / over capacity in the McAllen sector & have been since the LAST **** central american rush most everyone has forgotten about. I saw unmarked busses hauling off immigrants to a town near you today.

My BP buddy works canine on the river & says it's mad house & are apprehending gang members & middle easterners that would make your head spin. Imagine this along the entire southern border!! We will likely surpass the total head count from today to when the actual total caravan count that is still 6 weeks out, but you don't hear crap about it.

The invasion has been going on for some time, but the media doesn't care about leaky pipes...only when one that bursts is news worthy?? I really do not think the masses understand what is going on down here.
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Somebody put you up to this, have you been taken hostage?
No, he is just a d.a....
I sure wish yíall would quoting him, so I wouldnít have to see his drivel.
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No, he is just a d.a....
I sure wish yíall would quoting him, so I wouldnít have to see his drivel.
Yep! These token libtards would have much less of a voice if they were not quoted!! Ain't a single one of them ever said anything worth repeating either!!
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Indeed...my biggest gripe right now is that the entire nation is waiting for the caravan to arrive like THAT is the big problem?? We are maxed / over capacity in the McAllen sector & have been since the LAST **** central american rush most everyone has forgotten about. I saw unmarked busses hauling off immigrants to a town near you today.

My BP buddy works canine on the river & says it's mad house & are apprehending gang members & middle easterners that would make your head spin. Imagine this along the entire southern border!! We will likely surpass the total head count from today to when the actual total caravan count that is still 6 weeks out, but you don't hear crap about it.

The invasion has been going on for some time, but the media doesn't care about leaky pipes...only when one that bursts is news worthy?? I really do not think the masses understand what is going on down here.

My Brother is a BP agent in the Comstock sector and he said its fixing to be a **** show. They are seeing the same.
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The news is constantly reporting about a caravan of thousands when there are reports that estimate about about 6-7 k are crossing the Texas border a week!

It’s the same when the news gets worked up over a mass shooting and every weekend 10 times more happens in Chicago alone!

Nothing has been happening to stop this for a long time!
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I'm hearing from a friend, that lives on the border, that our troops are showing up down there unarmed. They are only there to assist the BP.. I called BS but that's his story.. Anyone else have info on this?
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I'm hearing from a friend, that lives on the border, that our troops are showing up down there unarmed. They are only there to assist the BP.. I called BS but that's his story.. Anyone else have info on this?
Fact...like the guard & as I stated to you before, the military boots are support roles only. Make no mistake they wll help increase where bp is freed up to detain more efficiently but we still have the whole asylum processing, tent city fiasco in the attempt to reverse the current catch & release to catch & return. Ugly balance & not so crystal clear like folks think. It will be fubar...time consuming fubar from the get go. Trump will not succeed in in his attempt to circumvent 14 via EO. Congress needs to fix the issue & we got a bunch of hurdles still.
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Fact...like the guard & as I stated to you before, the military boots are support roles only. Make no mistake they wll help increase where bp is freed up to detain more efficiently but we still have the whole asylum processing, tent city fiasco in the attempt to reverse the current catch & release to catch & return. Ugly balance & not so crystal clear like folks think. It will be fubar...time consuming fubar from the get go. Trump will not succeed in in his attempt to circumvent 14 via EO. Congress needs to fix the issue & we got a bunch of hurdles still.
Build thst fuggin WALL!
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Old 11-01-2018, 08:45 AM   #223
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I'm hearing from a friend, that lives on the border, that our troops are showing up down there unarmed. They are only there to assist the BP.. I called BS but that's his story.. Anyone else have info on this?
I saw a news clip yesterday of troops loading on a military transport plane that were carrying rifles. Could have been old file footage for all I know.
My GF is in the Texas State Guard. They are allowed to carry on SARS deployment if they have an LTC. She does and she carries concealed. TSG is on standby right now as I understand. Her last deployment was for 6 weeks during hurricane Harvey. Almost everyone in her group was carrying. Don't expect that to change if she is deployed again for this mess.

There is a looming possibility that things are about to get real down south.
The South Texas border needs to be shut down completely.
Water cannon blockades at every bridge. Tanks and bulldozers to shove the mess off into the river or back across the center line.
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Sending the militaryís nice but I canít help but with the restrictions put on them I think the money would be better spent hiring more BP agents and giving them the equipment they need to get the job done.

The biggest problem here isnít even the caravan. Itís a Repub majority in Congress that should be busting their butts fixing our immigration laws. Whatís the point in a majority that wonít do the job their base wants them to do?
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Build thst fuggin WALL!
What we are about to see when the migrants try to storm across ....will literally be left wing funded commercial advertisement for the wall.
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Boots on the ground in McAllen...reports are coming across the wire some will indeed be armed.

Heard on sat radio news a 4th caravan is getting ready to boogie north...we ain't in Kansas anymore. Not sure I wanna see the odds on this getting real.
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Boots on the ground in McAllen...reports are coming across the wire some will indeed be armed.

Heard on sat radio news a 4th caravan is getting ready to boogie north...we ain't in Kansas anymore. Not sure I wanna see the odds on this getting real.
Many are armed. The women and children are nothing but decoys. What is coming is a bunch of **** thugs
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Boots on the ground in McAllen...reports are coming across the wire some will indeed be armed.

Heard on sat radio news a 4th caravan is getting ready to boogie north...we ain't in Kansas anymore. Not sure I wanna see the odds on this getting real.
My parents said there were about 40-50 military vehicles rolling through Hallettsville around noon today...
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My parents said there were about 40-50 military vehicles rolling through Hallettsville around noon today...
Yeah...just barely getting going. While I'm at a loss trying to wrap my head around the magnitude of how this will shake down, I gotta hope this ends up being a military training exercise worthy of our tax dollars. Would rather see this than other war games played practicing to protect some pretend incident across the pond. Might be some lessons learned even if anticlimactic with the caravan??

Trying to find a hint of something positive out of all this somehow. I miss the border I grew up with.
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Sending the militaryís nice but I canít help but with the restrictions put on them I think the money would be better spent hiring more BP agents and giving them the equipment they need to get the job done.

The biggest problem here isnít even the caravan. Itís a Repub majority in Congress that should be busting their butts fixing our immigration laws. Whatís the point in a majority that wonít do the job their base wants them to do?


This is why every single one of us needs to write our Congressman and Senator demanding they resolve this issue once and for all. If they don't, we will vote them out of office next election. Id they get enough of these request they won't be able to kick the can down the road anymore if they want to keep their job.
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A big ol' ****storms a brewin'.

I have a bad feeling it's gonna get Western on the Southern border.
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Our military people get paid anyway. They might as well be doing something instead of lounging around the barracks and dayroom watching TV at night.
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Our military people get paid anyway. They might as well be doing something instead of lounging around the barracks and dayroom watching TV at night.
Former military are you?

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Yeah...just barely getting going. While I'm at a loss trying to wrap my head around the magnitude of how this will shake down, I gotta hope this ends up being a military training exercise worthy of our tax dollars. Would rather see this than other war games played practicing to protect some pretend incident across the pond. Might be some lessons learned even if anticlimactic with the caravan??

Trying to find a hint of something positive out of all this somehow. I miss the border I grew up with.
agreed....at the very least, something is being done & it has to start somewhere...may not be the best answer, but hopefully it gets the ball rolling in the right direction...
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Sending the militaryís nice but I canít help but with the restrictions put on them I think the money would be better spent hiring more BP agents and giving them the equipment they need to get the job done.

The biggest problem here isnít even the caravan. Itís a Repub majority in Congress that should be busting their butts fixing our immigration laws. Whatís the point in a majority that wonít do the job their base wants them to do?
Which part would you fix first? I keep seeing a commercial about "immigration policy in our on image," or something to that effect. Everytime that guy comes on I actually mute him.

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Our military people get paid anyway. They might as well be doing something instead of lounging around the barracks and dayroom watching TV at night.
Dude...really?

You sound like Obama & his "defunding the military" because we don't use them BS....
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Well...never thought I would a 1st rounder thats been on here since 2008...what'ya know.

Ol' boy is vying for the starting QB position.
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Which part would you fix first?
Probably the part where they are released in America to await a hearing. But what Iíd really love to see is legislation that denies benefits (welfare, disability,etc.) to all non-citizens. I know this is ultra conservative thinking but I donít even believe legal residents should be eligible for these benefits. Only citizens should receive these services. I also believe that there should be a waiting period for people who become citizens before they become eligible as well.
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I have to ask myself is this whole migration of armed thugs a way to force Trump to call their bluff and engage them in a fight? Knowing they can't win? The Dems are trying desperately to paint trump as anti-immigration. They want him to fail at all cost.
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Probably the part where they are released in America to await a hearing. But what Iíd really love to see is legislation that denies benefits (welfare, disability,etc.) to all non-citizens. I know this is ultra conservative thinking but I donít even believe legal residents should be eligible for these benefits. Only citizens should receive these services. I also believe that there should be a waiting period for people who become citizens before they become eligible as well.
Then you should run....

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I have to ask myself is this whole migration of armed thugs a way to force Trump to call their bluff and engage them in a fight? Knowing they can't win? The Dems are trying desperately to paint trump as anti-immigration. They want him to fail at all cost.
This truly is a no win for Trump. As the caravan draws near they will move what relatively few women and children there are to the front. The media will run with the picture of our military staring down woke and children.
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This truly is a no win for Trump. As the caravan draws near they will move what relatively few women and children there are to the front. The media will run with the picture of our military staring down woke and children.
Texanfan whatever will come in and defend this planned migration. But if you ask yourself why now, why how, why anti-American... And who planned it? That's the questions Americans should be asking

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Old 11-02-2018, 12:01 AM   #243
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Texanfan whatever will come in and defend this planned migration. But if you ask yourself why now, why how, why anti-American... And who planned it? That's the questions Americans should be asking
Why don't "we" have people in this caravan? If there are so many liberal reporters that have been following this for weeks why not a conservative?

Or undercover with hidden cameras? I'd love to see tape of who's paying them, telling them what to do, and leading women/children to the front when reporters need them there.
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Why don't "we" have people in this caravan? If there are so many liberal reporters that have been following this for weeks why not a conservative?

Or undercover with hidden cameras? I'd love to see tape of who's paying them, telling them what to do, and leading women/children to the front when reporters need them there.
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:44 AM   #246
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Now the Migrants have filed a class action lawsuit against Trump and his administration for violating their Constituinal Rights!!! What fíing American rights do these illegal thugs think they are entitled to? And how do they have time to even sue? Another liberal democratic **** show..

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Now the Migrants have filed a class action lawsuit against Trump and his administration for violating their Constituinal Rights!!! What fíing American rights do these illegal thugs think they are entitled to? And how do they have time to even sue? Another liberal democratic **** show..
Good. These idiots pushing this crap are going to force the SC to rule on all of this, and it's not going to turn out like they hoped it would.
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Youíre implying Trumpís two years have been worse than Obamaís!? Honestly, you just sound bitter.

1. Economy is up,

2. stock markets hit record highs,

3. unemployment at record lows for blacks, Hispanics, Asians.

4. Overall Unemployment at a 50 year low.

5. In talks to de-nuke North Korea, RESPECTED on the world stage again, negotiating and implementing fair trade policies, and on and on.

Please explain to me how this is worse than Obama, without the bull **** rhetoric and hyperbole. Honestly, I want to hear this?
1 & 2 Don't effect my livelihood and what specific economic policies has trump implemented that caused such a great rise?

3. Why do I care and how does that effect me?

4. Again how does this effect me?

5. Really? Have you checked the latest update on that situation??? #fail!!!!
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Good. These idiots pushing this crap are going to force the SC to rule on all of this, and it's not going to turn out like they hoped it would.
Won't be necessary... they have no standing.
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Old 11-02-2018, 09:44 AM   #250
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1 & 2 Don't effect my livelihood and what specific economic policies has trump implemented that caused such a great rise?

3. Why do I care and how does that effect me?

4. Again how does this effect me?

5. Really? Have you checked the latest update on that situation??? #fail!!!!
So what are you a **** welfare bum? Everybody benefits from a growing economy unless you are on the government tit
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