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Old 07-08-2020, 11:32 PM   #1
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Default East Texas Hunters: alternatives to hand thrown corn for mature bucks

Currently I'm putting out 2 different 250pd piles of corn and the deer mow through them in a week, including some solid mature bucks. Past experience tells me that a spin cast feeder will send the mature bucks somewhere else. I can't keep throwing out 500pds a week so wanted to see if anyone has had any luck keeping mature bucks hitting corn using a different method here in East Texas. I'm sitting on a few options but wanted to see what y'all have had luck with it.

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Old 07-09-2020, 12:00 AM   #2
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Old 07-09-2020, 12:03 AM   #3
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About 10 years ago I made a "pig pipe" out of a 5 gallon plastic bucket. Attached a swivel and chain to the bottom of the bucket, cut some 5/8" holes in the sides, screwed the lid on and staked it down. I've seen more mature bucks kicking that bucket than on all my feeders combined.

My Brother-in-law always had good luck drawing in mature bucks when he hung 35 gallon timed feeders way up in trees out of their sight.

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Old 07-09-2020, 01:32 AM   #4
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A ghost feeder is an option. Lifted high up a tree. Thereís a thread or two that discusses them in detail.
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A ghost feeder is an option. Lifted high up a tree. Thereís a thread or two that discusses them in detail.
This may be the alternative.
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Winch up 55 gal barrel feeder with a protein spout. I run four year round. Big mature bucks stay on them. I keep the bottom lip of the spout at 40". I do not run anything timed in East Tx. Besides, timed is not feeding. That is nothing more than baiting. Free choice is feeding.
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This year Iím going to try directional feeders placed in the wood line throwing out to where I want it. My philosophy is that they recognize the traditional image of a tripod feeder. Another option is to fix a hanging feeder 15-20í high. I have done that with small bucket feeders and large limbs and had bucks visit them regularly that would avoid a traditional tripod.


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I’m going to try running big&j blocks. I can’t keep my hand corn out more than a day or 2 because the hogs mow it down. Hopefully they’ll stay off the blocks just a little better.
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Only answer I have is shoot half of those deer and the corn will last longer.lol
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I’m going to try running big&j blocks. I can’t keep my hand corn out more than a day or 2 because the hogs mow it down. Hopefully they’ll stay off the blocks just a little better.
Pigs will eat the big and J as well. We had to get all seasons block feeders to keep them in. They last longer that way but the deer still eat one a week at one of my sets

The don't last but 3 days on the lake property but I get 20 deer per feeding when the feeder throws
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He is feeding in pens
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Old 07-09-2020, 08:18 AM   #14
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This year Iím going to try directional feeders placed in the wood line throwing out to where I want it. My philosophy is that they recognize the traditional image of a tripod feeder. Another option is to fix a hanging feeder 15-20í high. I have done that with small bucket feeders and large limbs and had bucks visit them regularly that would avoid a traditional tripod.


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I am leaning this direction as well.. Can hide the feeder in the brush even just let it throw out where you want them standing to shoot
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Just feed them less if you can’t afford it. You’re not going to find a cheaper alternative to deer corn.

Rice bran works well for me, but again if you can’t afford corn then it’s not an option.
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Old 07-09-2020, 09:00 AM   #16
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Iíve hand fed fir years now & I only use 1/2-3/4 of a 5 gallon bucket a week & spread it between 5-6 spots with cameras & as season approaches I narrow it down to 2-3 spots that Iíll hunt & use the same amount of corn.


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Iíve hand fed fir years now & I only use 1/2-3/4 of a 5 gallon bucket a week & spread it between 5-6 spots with cameras & as season approaches I narrow it down to 2-3 spots that Iíll hunt & use the same amount of corn.


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A 5 gallon bucket would be gone before he got home with only the bucks eating.
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Old 07-09-2020, 09:42 AM   #18
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PVC pipe feeders are fairly cheap and easy to make. Mine would only hold about 50#, but you could put several out at each location. Not sure that's really going to slow down the amount you have to put out though.
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Old 07-09-2020, 09:53 AM   #19
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PVC pipe feeder or a 2 liter coke bottles with a hole in the top
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Old 07-09-2020, 10:22 AM   #20
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I'm not using corn. I do 2 things.
1. Find their favorite food source
2. Find their favorite scrape
Hunting over scrapes before the rut is outstanding, but you have to find that one or 2 they will use during daylight hours.
If you're lucky enough to find a tree or 2 that they love, you will see all kinds of deer moving in and out.
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Old 07-09-2020, 10:24 AM   #21
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Hang a chain between two trees 15'-20' in the air. Attach an 55 or 85 gallon drum to a winch and crank it up as high as it'll go. Buy a ghost feeder and use it. (they have a new funnel system that makes it even quieter). Mature bucks will feed under it no problem in East Texas. (I have been using this system for years now and killed several big deer under em but using a traditional spin feeder instead of the Ghost. I would think heavily pressured bucks will respond better to a quiet feeder so I'll be swapping over to the Ghost Feeder)
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Old 07-09-2020, 10:34 AM   #22
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Is switching over to plots an option? Beans in the spring, wheat/clover/turnips in the fall keeps lots of tonnage on the ground for me. Gotta have the right spot, though.

If it was feasible, it’d save you money and going in and out every week. 500 pounds a week at 4$ a sack or whatever it costs will add up quick!!
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Old 07-09-2020, 11:09 AM   #24
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I strictly hand corn my pens. Every 2-3 days I pour a bag. Some days I may only pour 10 pounds. I have 4 feed stations and 100# a week keep the bucks coming daily. I also have 2 stations with gravity protein. They will jump in the pen for it. If you have the time to make 2-3 trips a week just cut back and feed less.

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Old 07-09-2020, 11:10 AM   #25
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A ghost feeder is an option. Lifted high up a tree. Thereís a thread or two that discusses them in detail.
We are trying several of these. We call them squirrel feeders. They must be bullet proof as the squirrels will chew through anything plastic or if wires are exposed.
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Old 07-09-2020, 11:18 AM   #26
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what about a timed protein feeder with the bottom open so it falls on the ground. the winch it high uo a tree. set the timer to put out 5-10 lbs at a time. during off peak hours.
than hunt the trails 100 yds out from them.
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Old 07-09-2020, 11:45 AM   #27
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I've used gravity feeders with success. I might start looking into the Ghost feeder based off some responses here
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what about a timed protein feeder with the bottom open so it falls on the ground. the winch it high uo a tree. set the timer to put out 5-10 lbs at a time. during off peak hours.
than hunt the trails 100 yds out from them.
This could work..
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Old 07-09-2020, 12:58 PM   #29
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I have 2 Redneck gravity feeders that Big Bucks LOVE. I just moved them to a TPost mount because the dadgum squirrels eat the plastic...but 80 lbs corn will last 3-4 weeks and the hogs cant get to it. I just moved to tpost last week so I have not been able to see if keeping varmits off will make corn last any longer....the amount they could get was pretty limited anyway.
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Old 07-09-2020, 01:45 PM   #30
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I have 2 Redneck gravity feeders that Big Bucks LOVE. I just moved them to a TPost mount because the dadgum squirrels eat the plastic...but 80 lbs corn will last 3-4 weeks and the hogs cant get to it. I just moved to tpost last week so I have not been able to see if keeping varmits off will make corn last any longer....the amount they could get was pretty limited anyway.

How does t-post mount keep squirrels from eating the PVC?


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Old 07-09-2020, 02:05 PM   #31
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I have 2 Redneck gravity feeders that Big Bucks LOVE. I just moved them to a TPost mount because the dadgum squirrels eat the plastic...but 80 lbs corn will last 3-4 weeks and the hogs cant get to it. I just moved to tpost last week so I have not been able to see if keeping varmits off will make corn last any longer....the amount they could get was pretty limited anyway.
How high off the ground do you have it? The pics and videos Ive seen of these seems that big pigs can still reach it.
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I have 2 Redneck gravity feeders that Big Bucks LOVE. I just moved them to a TPost mount because the dadgum squirrels eat the plastic...but 80 lbs corn will last 3-4 weeks and the hogs cant get to it. I just moved to tpost last week so I have not been able to see if keeping varmits off will make corn last any longer....the amount they could get was pretty limited anyway.
Squirrels still try and get in them but this is how I set my Redneck Feeders. Great product

Place inside a Handcorn pen and no worries about hogs.
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:46 PM   #33
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I have 2 Tripod feeders in Harrison County. No food plots. I live almost 5 hours away. I get up there about about once every 2 months. It is always growed up so bad I cannot tell if anything is hitting the corn. I mow the shooting lanes and fill the feeders till next trip.

Don't see many deer but it is what it is.
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Old 07-09-2020, 04:44 PM   #34
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How high off the ground do you have it? The pics and videos Ive seen of these seems that big pigs can still reach it.
They recommend 42" above ground. The deer will work hard on just a few bits of corn. I followed the website guidelines for a PVC leg covered with a bucket upside down then the feeder, to keep squirrel and coon away. I will see what the camera shows on the next trip.

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Old 07-09-2020, 06:51 PM   #36
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A 5 gallon bucket would be gone before he got home with only the bucks eating.

It maybe but it works for great me in Houston County. Hereís few bucks over the last few years. Also about 200yrds from where I hunt thereís a feeder with camera & never seen any of these deer at the feeder.






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Old 07-09-2020, 06:56 PM   #37
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We put up a quite feeder and hung from chains between two trees. Piston open, corn drops, and nothing for them to stand under.


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Iím going to try running big&j blocks. I canít keep my hand corn out more than a day or 2 because the hogs mow it down. Hopefully theyíll stay off the blocks just a little better.
I put some big & J blocks out and the hogs demolished them. Hope they do not do the same to yours. Put a camera on them.
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[QUOTE=Black-N-Red;14966437]It maybe but it works for great me in Houston County. Hereís few bucks over the last few years. Also about 200yrds from where I hunt thereís a feeder with camera & never seen any of these deer at the feeder.


If you followed any of my threads I'm sure you know I do that in a dozen places. Johnny is 100 miles from his spot. He goes up and pours 500 lb of corn in two pens. Deer...mostly bucks....eat all of it in 5 days.
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Old 07-10-2020, 07:38 AM   #40
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I am sure I have a similar setup, but your deer might behave differently and my place is 20 minutes from the house. Here is my corn $$ saving plan that I employ...I only start feeding a week before the season. I haven't found that it has a negative effect on us killing mature bucks.

I used to do the whole feeding year round deal, but I found myself burnt out before the season began and really dreading driving to the feed store to get corn. I can't think about deer hunting year around like I used to. Feeding deer in the spring/summer severely cuts into my fishing time. Some of the deer I used to feed all spring/summer would disappear anyway when velvet dropped and often we kill deer that we see daily during the season for their whole life but neighbors 1-2 miles away feed each summer. In my case, I think I draw those deer the same during the killing time whether I bust my butt all summer feeding, or not.
Most importantly, I keep out however much corn it takes in each spot to make sure that there is corn available at all hours of the day from the time I want to start my season until I'm done for the year. For me, that is usually 2-3 bags per spot every 2-3 days.
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Old 07-10-2020, 11:58 AM   #41
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If you followed any of my threads I'm sure you know I do that in a dozen places. Johnny is 100 miles from his spot. He goes up and pours 500 lb of corn in two pens. Deer...mostly bucks....eat all of it in 5 days.[/QUOTE]

I didnít see he was that far away. Sorry for that. Iím only about 30 minutes from where I hunt.

The feeder hanging on a chain is probably the best idea Iíve heard. I think the best thing would be the feeder hanging high between 2 trees with an auger style dispense system with some sort of cone made from something soft under it to spread the corn out.

Iíve also heard of folks using like a 5 grain chicken scratch, smaller pieces of corn, sunflower seeds, oats wheat, milo & barley. With the smaller pieces they hang around longer & donít eat as much. Iím gonna try the chicken scratch in a couple of places this year & see what happens.


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Old 07-10-2020, 10:37 PM   #42
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A one way 100 mile drive once or twice a week would take a lot of the fun out of hunting for someone who also works a full time job. My drive is 50 miles, there's no way I could do 100 miles for any length of time. A high hanging ghost feeder sure sounds like a good idea. I may try one next year.
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Old 07-11-2020, 09:35 AM   #43
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The price for the "ghost feeder" is absolutely ridiculous. Just get a winch up 30 gallon feeder and turn the spin speed to the lowest setting and spray any metal with a rubber coating, same thing.
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Old 07-11-2020, 10:06 AM   #44
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I hunt East Texas and we only harvest 5.5 yr old bucks if 9 points or more and some 4.5 yr old 8’s on occasion.
We have very mature bucks jump in our pens and hit corn from broadcast feeders with zero hesitation. The same pens are where our protein troughs are so bucks are used to jumping in them year round.
They don’t feed either in pens with feeders or on broadcast corn not in pens except at night-except during pre rut and rut in October-November.
We don’t like broadcasting corn except in Fenced pens because it attracts hogs off neighboring tracts. But I don’t think feeder vs hand spread corn makes a difference if you’re using fenced pens/which is an imperative of you don’t want hogs running your deer off.
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Great ideas. I just got home after making the drive to the lease. It was an hour and 20 minutes one way. I feed in pens and for the most part, hogs stay out of em. I have 2 locations where I corn and poured 250 pounds in each spot. This will give me about a week or so to decided on what I need to do. Definitely can't make the drive over there once a week and throw out corn.

Looks like the deer were waiting on me. Already got a doe on corn. I appreciate everyone's input and will update after I set something in concrete.



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The price for the "ghost feeder" is absolutely ridiculous. Just get a winch up 30 gallon feeder and turn the spin speed to the lowest setting and spray any metal with a rubber coating, same thing.
I never thought about spray on rubberized coating. I like that idea.
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^^^ I’ve also heard of people putting I cut out leg from a big ol boy pair of sweatpants , for example and fastening it under the feeder, around the unit/spinner. Gonna give it a try in a few weeks. I Have a Moultrie pro unit that is round in shape , and I think it’s gonna work great!

Although I need some help on the suspended chain setup. I can get the chain up no problem, but what’re you guys using to hoist up and down and any other hardware ?? Thanks!!

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Old 07-11-2020, 02:29 PM   #48
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^^^ Iíve also heard of people putting I cut out leg from a big ol boy pair of sweatpants , for example and fastening it under the feeder, around the unit/spinner. Gonna give it a try in a few weeks. I Have a Moultrie pro unit that is round in shape , and I think itís gonna work great!

Although I need some help on the suspended chain setup. I can get the chain up no problem, but whatíre you guys using to hoist up and down and any other hardware ?? Thanks!!
The sweatpants are a good idea also. As far as the feeder hoist I made an L bracket that hangs from a tree. It has a pulley next to the tree and one at the end of the bracket thatís about 5 feet out from the tree. Then a boat wench at the base of the tree to hoist it up. I saw one on eBay and figured it would be easy to build but it was a real pain to set up.
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Apologies for being the new guy to an East Texas thread. I have a new little place gonna try to hunt this year a little east. What is the issue with Traditional feeders?

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Apologies for being the new guy to an East Texas thread. I have a new little place gonna try to hunt this year a little east. What is the issue with Traditional feeders?
Generally deer have evolved to realize they mean danger and avoid them like the plague (especially mature bucks). They also attract hogs.
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