What the heck is trade value?

[BowSlayer]

I know it's been covered before but I'm bored and still don't get it. I have a gun worth $100 cash but if I trade I want $150 in trade value. If trading makes the value go up doesn't the item your trading FOR go up in value also? It makes zero sense to me. Carry on...

[TX03RUBI]

It means they prefer cash. If you want to offer something in trade it has to be worth their time.

[Apodz]

I think it’s just the times we are in right now. People will “trade” for something at a higher value because they can’t find it anywhere else. Just my guess.

[COACH_EM_UP]

I dont know exactly what it means. I think it is stupid as heck. I do know that when I see a higher trade value than cash value, I just hit the back button and don't even give them the time of day.

[BowSlayer]

Originally Posted by COACH_EM_UP

I dont know exactly what it means. I think it is stupid as heck. I do know that when I see a higher trade value than cash value, I just hit the back button and don't even give them the time of day.

I have to admit if I see something with a cash price and an inflated price for trade value I back out too. Lol

[BowSlayer]

Originally Posted by TX03RUBI

It means they prefer cash. If you want to offer something in trade it has to be worth their time.

Then they should just say something like “I don’t really want to trade but I will if I can put the screws to you”.

[TX03RUBI]

Originally Posted by BowSlayer

Then they should just say something like “I don’t really want to trade but I will if I can put the screws to you”.

Or they could say “cash value ***, trade value ***” Not their fault it hurts your feelings.

[BowSlayer]

Originally Posted by TX03RUBI

Or they could say “cash value ***, trade value ***” Not their fault it hurts your feelings.

Lighten up. Geez Frances

[McPatrickClan]

I take it to mean, hey I have this Glock that I have $500 into and well, that's maybe a bit high, but maybe you have a compound bow that you have $500 and maybe that's a bit high, but hey why don't we swap and then the sticker shock isn't so bad because, well, you wanted a Glock and I wanted a new bow.

[TX03RUBI]

Originally Posted by BowSlayer

Lighten up. Geez Frances

My apologies. It came across as butthurt and snarky. I tend to respond the same when so.

[Dale Moser]

Originally Posted by COACH_EM_UP

I dont know exactly what it means. I think it is stupid as heck. I do know that when I see a higher trade value than cash value, I just hit the back button and don't even give them the time of day.

Yep


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[BrianL]

I means they prefer not to trade.

[Texastaxi]

It means they need to get into politics.

[TX03RUBI]

Let’s be honest here. Too many of y’all throw out some dumb*** trade offers. You want to do that be my guest. It’s going to be in my favor if I accept it. Ifs it’s something I actually want (I’ll list it in the ad) and then I’ll give you same as cash value if it’s in good condition. Y’all that skip right over it aren’t hurting anyone’s feelings. That’s exactly what we wanted you to do. Keeps the stupid to a minimum.

[careybirdwell]

It doesn't bother me. I have listed a $600 Weatherby Vanguard for $325 cash or trade for something of similar value, only to have people ask about trading for a $300 Remington 770. It I'm trading, I'm wanting to trade for new to new value or used to used value, but not my used price for your new price

[TX03RUBI]

I see adds listed the way I don’t like all the time. I keep right on scrolling. They don’t have to deal with me and vice versa. Works out in everyone’s favor.

[BowSlayer]

Originally Posted by TX03RUBI

Let’s be honest here. Too many of y’all throw out some dumb*** trade offers. You want to do that be my guest. It’s going to be in my favor if I accept it. Ifs it’s something I actually want (I’ll list it in the ad) and then I’ll give you same as cash value if it’s in good condition. Y’all that skip right over it aren’t hurting anyone’s feelings. That’s exactly what we wanted you to do. Keeps the stupid to a minimum.

You aren’t going to live long with your anger issues. Lol

Seriously, lighten up. It was not that serious of a thread. Calling folks stupid seems well stupid.

[TX03RUBI]

Originally Posted by BowSlayer

You aren’t going to live long with your anger issues. Lol

Seriously, lighten up. It was not that serious of a thread. Calling folks stupid seems well stupid.

I didn’t call anyone stupid. I said the offers we receive are stupid. Hence posting the way we do.

[BowSlayer]

Originally Posted by TX03RUBI

I didn’t call anyone stupid. I said the offers we receive are stupid. Hence posting the way we do.

How does inflating the value of something change the offers you’ll get?

[TX03RUBI]

Originally Posted by BowSlayer

How does inflating the value of something change the offers you’ll get?

I’ve already seen plenty of people posting they keep on scrolling if so. Seems to work quite well. Offer me want I want and I’ll take a fair value. Offer me your junk or something I don’t need/want and I’m going to come out ahead. If people think they’re coming out on the losing side they don’t tend to offer it.

[BowSlayer]

Originally Posted by TX03RUBI

I’ve already seen plenty of people posting they keep on scrolling if so. Seems to work quite well. Offer me want I want and I’ll take a fair value. Offer me your junk or something I need/want and I’m going to come out ahead. If people think they’re coming out on the losing side they don’t tend to offer it.

I can assure you I’ve never made a trade offer that wasn’t fair. And I’m one of the ones that backs out when people do that. Mainly because it makes zero sense. If you don’t want to trade, don’t trade. If someone makes an offer you don’t like, don’t take it. It’s not rocket science.

[TX03RUBI]

Originally Posted by BowSlayer

I can assure you I’ve never made a trade offer that wasn’t fair. And I’m one of the ones that backs out when people do that. Mainly because it makes zero sense. If you don’t want to trade, don’t trade. If someone makes an offer you don’t like, don’t take it. It’s not rocket science.

I’m not saying you have. Plenty do though. It keeps it to a minimum. If you’ve seen my inbox when I post things you’d understand. I don’t like or use junk, but plenty of people think it’s ok to offer 5 junk $30 parts in trade for something that’s $150 value. When that $150 value is based off used prices, and the 5 junk parts aren’t worth the box they’re sent in used. Things of that nature

[TX03RUBI]

You asked a question. My second response was snide, as I believed yours was as well. The rest haven’t had any attitude even though it may come across that way. I’m brash and don’t really care to sugar coat things, but there was no ill intent meant.

[BowSlayer]

Originally Posted by TX03RUBI

I’m not saying you have. Plenty do though. It keeps it to a minimum. If you’ve seen my inbox when I post things you’d understand. I don’t like or use junk, but plenty of people think it’s ok to offer 5 junk $30 parts in trade for something that’s $150 value. When that $150 value is based off used prices, and the 5 junk parts aren’t worth the box they’re sent in used. Things of that nature

I agree 100 percent. People make dumb trade offers all the time. All I’m saying is you can’t inflate your price to weed out dumb offers. Dumb people do what dumb people do.

[rladner]

I'm just assuming here, but seems to me that if they have a cash value, that is what they want. It is liquid and they can use it for just about anything. If you are going to offer them trade value, then they will require a premium since it is not as liquid and in the end they may take on the burden of selling that item for cash at some point.

I'm not saying that is the way I do business but since the thread was about "understanding", I'm just throwing out a theory.

for the record, I have nothing for sale or trade .

[justletmein]

I could be way off and it confuses me too, but I was kind of thinking it was basically the new price of the item. That gives people a direct comparison of what something costs new. Obviously demand changes stuff like that, ammo and guns for example new price would be very close to used price whereas a compound bow new price would be much higher than used price.

[Fishndude]

I’ll trade you my opinion for $100

[BowSlayer]

Originally Posted by Fishndude

I’ll trade you my opinion for $100

Cash value?

[justletmein]

Originally Posted by BowSlayer

Cash value?

$0.02 maybe?

Sorry Fishndude I had to!

[175gr7.62]

What gets me is people trading guns for bows. Bows depreciate to zero value. Guns never go to zero.

Anyone want to to trade a top of the line clean Bear Whitetail for 1984 Remington 700 BDL ‘06?


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[TexasHayBaler]

Originally Posted by Fishndude

I’ll trade you my opinion for $100

I want to trade you 5 knives made in Pakistan. They are made of sharpless stainless.

[Fishndude]

Originally Posted by TexasHayBaler

I want to trade you 5 knives made in Pakistan. They are made of sharpless stainless.

Lmao

[Fishndude]

Originally Posted by justletmein

$0.02 maybe?

Sorry Fishndude I had to!

That’s a tad high.

[Smart]

Here's how I take it.... its basically just listing a price close to retail or what was paid so that folks know what would be an acceptable trade item value without adding some to the kitty.

Gun ad example: I'll take $200 for it but I paid $300 for it. My trade value is gonna be higher for folks so they know that I don't want their $200 gun they'd sell for $100 in this instance... If I can get cash I'll take a lesser amount so I can spend it how I want but we need to trade equal values...or you gotta add cash to even it out. makes perfect sense to me.

Say I have a $300 Seiko I would take $200 cash for. I'd only trade it for something of like value...I'm not going to trade it for a $200 Citizen somebody would sell for $100 and not get some added to the kitty. It just saves some negotiating time and fends off the jakelegs offering a pack of gum and a rubberband.

[BowSlayer]

Originally Posted by Smart

Here's how I take it.... its basically just listing a price close to retail or what was paid so that folks know what would be an acceptable trade item value without adding some to the kitty.

Gun ad example: I'll take $200 for it but I paid $300 for it. My trade value is gonna be higher for folks so they know that I don't want their $200 gun they'd sell for $100 in this instance... If I can get cash I'll take a lesser amount so I can spend it how I want but we need to trade equal values...or you gotta add cash to even it out. makes perfect sense to me.

Say I have a $300 Seiko I would take $200 cash for. I'd only trade it for something of like value...I'm not going to trade it for a $200 Citizen somebody would sell for $100 and not get some added to the kitty. It just saves some negotiating time and fends off the jakelegs offering a pack of gum and a rubberband.

If I have a gun that’s worth $300 cash and you have a gun that’s worth $300 cash is it acceptable to offer to trade even if the seller wants $350 trade value?

[Smart]

Originally Posted by BowSlayer

If I have a gun that’s worth $300 cash and you have a gun that’s worth $300 cash is it acceptable to offer to trade even if the seller wants $350 trade value?

I would think if both guns are worth $300 cash they'd be similar trade values. The problem arises when somebody overvalues their lesser item...

[BowSlayer]

Originally Posted by Smart

I would think if both guns are worth $300 cash they'd be similar trade values. The problem arises when somebody overvalues their lesser item...

I agree. I just put a cash price and if someone offers to trade something a literal 30 second google search of their item will tell you what it’s worth.

[Smart]

Say some one wants to sell their Ruger 10/22 for $200 for the cash flexbility....but retail its worth $275-300. Somebody else who wanted a 10/22 instead settles for a $199 Marlin retail. They then see the $200 cash price of the Ruger and say hey, I'll trade you my Marlin straight up. I just paid $200 for it. This is a classic overvaluing of a lesser item in a trade.

[BowSlayer]

Originally Posted by Smart

Say some one wants to sell their Ruger 10/22 for $200 for the cash flexbility....but retail its worth $275-300. Somebody else who wanted a 10/22 instead settles for a $199 Marlin retail. They then see the $200 cash price of the Ruger and say hey, I'll trade you my Marlin straight up. I just paid $200 for it. This is a classic overvaluing of a lesser item in a trade.

Inflating the price of your item isn’t going to stop stupidity. Anybody that offers a gun that’s $200 new for a gun that’s $300 new should know better. If they don’t, your “trade value” means nothing to them.

[Smart]

Originally Posted by BowSlayer

I agree. I just put a cash price and if someone offers to trade something a literal 30 second google search of their item will tell you what it’s worth.

I agree but some folks who trade a lot stave off the lowballers by giving them a value that is acceptable....so as not to waste their time

[Smart]

Originally Posted by BowSlayer

Inflating the price of your item isn’t going to stop stupidity. Anybody that offers a gun that’s $200 new for a gun that’s $300 new should know better. If they don’t, your “trade value” means nothing to them.

It happens and its worth a shot.. Even a gill net full of ripped holes stops a few fish

[BowSlayer]

Originally Posted by Smart

It happens and its worth a shot.. Even a gill net full of ripped holes stops a few fish

True

What about the trade only guys? I’m not talking about ammo but other large things. I’ve seen multiple people post items like atvs for “trade only”. People ask them over and over how much cash and it’s not for sale, only trade. Never understood that either. Makes me think they only want to get rid of it if they can get more than it’s worth. I avoid the “trade only” sellers too. I’m not sure if they understand they can trade cash for anything they want. Lol

[Smart]

Originally Posted by BowSlayer

True

What about the trade only guys? I’m not talking about ammo but other large things. I’ve seen multiple people post items like atvs for “trade only”. People ask them over and over how much cash and it’s not for sale, only trade. Never understood that either. Makes me think they only want to get rid of it if they can get more than it’s worth. I avoid the “trade only” sellers too. I’m not sure if they understand they can trade cash for anything they want. Lol

My thought in that is some folks just like to dicker....and they feel like they can get a like value item trading versus taking the hit on the cash price and have to add to it to get what they want. But that's just a WAG! I've never been a trade only person.

[asu-indian]

And some want cash and won’t take a casher’s check.