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#1 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Brazoria county
Hunt In: Brady,McCulloch Cnty, Brazoria cnty, South Africa, Namibia Nebraska
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The boat ramps will look like a Walmart parking lot on Black Friday again this year it appears.. Great fish!!
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Ten Point
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Oklahoma
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Ten Point
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Winnie, Tx
Hunt In: The woods, Val verde/Edwards line
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Just like the invention of the repeating firearm and being able to mow down the Buffalo, technology will wipe out populations of big bass. All I can say is treat these big females with respect if your lucky enough to catch em.
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#4 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: San Antonio
Hunt In: Wilson and San Saba County
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Wow, IIRC that lake was bone dry many years ago and I heard it was done
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#5 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Magnolia
Hunt In: The woods
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By technology you mean live scope and I couldnt agree more
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#6 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Winnie, Tx
Hunt In: The woods, Val verde/Edwards line
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Livescpoe, side imaging are making it easier, but tack on social media giving up reports in real time, secrets being shared and pros looking to make a living giving out their gained information from years of fishing. All this is making a better equipped angler that is more capable of catching bass and more people on the water gives bass no time where they are not molested.
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#7 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Heath, TX
Hunt In: Abilene
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dont understand why this is a bad idea. Congrats to those who are able to catch and release trophy fish like this. once in a lifetime catch. Nice to hear of other lakes beside Fork producing these.
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#8 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Winnie, Tx
Hunt In: The woods, Val verde/Edwards line
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Big trout fishing like what I mainly fish for has taken a huge hit by the same problems outlined in my other post. Up to Ten years ago you could sit on a school of big trout for weeks without people running them over, now once a certain type of person catches them it’s on the web and fishing pressure increases, decreases catch rates. The lakes are taking the same hit.
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#9 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Winnie, Tx
Hunt In: The woods, Val verde/Edwards line
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I feel like the people that learned to catch that caliber of fish when it was hard work and lot of hours to gain the knowledge to be successful were more incline to treat the others who chase that type of fish with more respect and treat the fish with more respect. If it’s easier to catch, more people who have not put in the time to learn will usually not respect how hard it was to learn therefore not respect the fish or the others that are chasing them, the easier it gets the less respect until you get to where we are now.
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#10 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Powderly, TX
Hunt In: God's green earth
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Nice fish
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#11 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Sisterdale
Hunt In: Sisterdale, Barnhart , presidio , tiviolie
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My take is it sounds like catching 30+ inch trout in the harbor during a cold weather event
But it’s still legal so whatever |
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#12 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Winnie, Tx
Hunt In: The woods, Val verde/Edwards line
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#13 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: North Texas
Hunt In: Wise county
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I can see it turning into heavier restrictions in the form of limited seasons, and limited numbers of boats allowed on a lake during certain seasons. The resource won't handle the pressure unless restrictions are applied. IMO
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#14 |
Eight Point
Join Date: Sep 2020
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It’s going to ruin the resource if they’re not careful. Many of those big fish have delayed mortality, especially when caught deep, they swim off but die a few days later. Smallmouth are even worse about delayed mortality.
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#15 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Sisterdale
Hunt In: Sisterdale, Barnhart , presidio , tiviolie
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#16 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Winnie, Tx
Hunt In: The woods, Val verde/Edwards line
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Which fishery are you referring to as catch and release?
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Ten Point
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Winnie, Tx
Hunt In: The woods, Val verde/Edwards line
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#18 |
Ten Point
![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Tyler
Hunt In: Ireland, TX
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These guys are targeting and catching only a handful of bass a day at most and releasing them all....it will not hurt the population of fish, now overcrowding (PIA boating) will certainly be a problem at some of the lakes, but that will limit itself over time.
My guess is you could see crappie limits changed at some point because of the tech. but bass will be fine. Most of the anglers that are springing for this tech. are catch and release only anyway, will you have delayed mortality on some, sure, but destruction of habitat (spraying grass, etc...) is WAY more impactful on the fish population than the invention of these graphs. |
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#19 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Sisterdale
Hunt In: Sisterdale, Barnhart , presidio , tiviolie
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Ten Point
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Winnie, Tx
Hunt In: The woods, Val verde/Edwards line
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#21 |
Four Point
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Ft. Worth TX.
Hunt In: Zapata Texas
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Running Live Scope to this level is a high end learned skill.
The argument can be made that it creates a unfair advantage. And if it creates a un fair advantage it will be made illegal. So get it while you can!! Fishing Ivie in Jan.-Feb. could be brutally cold. |
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#22 | |
Ten Point
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: North Texas
Hunt In: Wise county
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I'm not against it. Just saying it will either result in more regulations or in reduced numbers of these large fish. Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk |
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Ten Point
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Winnie, Tx
Hunt In: The woods, Val verde/Edwards line
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Pope & Young
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Location: Sugar Land
Hunt In: Leon,Madison and Zavalla
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#25 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Casper,Tx
Hunt In: Pronouns-He/Him
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Livescope is so 5 years ago. Just wait till you see the new stuff. Having to work to locate fish or even the exact size/species of fish you are looking for will be a thing of the past. The only sport left in it will be getting them to take what you keep dropping in front of their mouths as you follow them around.
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Pope & Young
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Sisterdale
Hunt In: Sisterdale, Barnhart , presidio , tiviolie
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#27 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Winnie, Tx
Hunt In: The woods, Val verde/Edwards line
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Capitalism is so awesome, it gives people a means to pull themselves out of poverty but in the name of expanding and growing it sure has unintended consequences from time to time lol. Always looking for the next big thing to increase profits our fishing sports as an example will be demolished in the future, and resources will continue to dwindle and dwindle.
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#28 | |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2012
Hunt In: Bosque Brown Hill McLennan Navarro Counties
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Administrator
![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Richmond, Texas
Hunt In: Lavaca, Alberta and where ever Aironeout takes me!
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Are they actually killing fish?
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#30 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: North Texas
Hunt In: Wise county
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It's all debatable but there are studies that these large fish, being caught and stressed during an ready stressful time does result in higher percentage chance of death.
Coupled with targeting and pressuring them repeatedly, I'm sure would raise those percentages. Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk |
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#31 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: N. DFW
Hunt In: Childress, Brady
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man sure are a lot of guys that claim this is hurting bass fishing, probably also claim that fishing and hunting is "becoming too expensive for the common man"
Look at all the SAL that were caught last season, they were brought back to HQ, had their genetics taken so they could get off spring from them and then released back into the lake. Lakes that have had SAL fry stocked in them have already proven the viability of this program and it shows on the lakes. |
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Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Wise Cty
Hunt In: Young Cty
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Pope & Young
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Location: Sugar Land
Hunt In: Leon,Madison and Zavalla
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Pope & Young
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Brazoria county
Hunt In: Brady,McCulloch Cnty, Brazoria cnty, South Africa, Namibia Nebraska
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Yes I listen to a local fishing show(radio)and I here these guides talking about how this new technology basically makes it impossible for fish to hide these days.. Same in Crapppie tournaments. They can consistently target and catch the big ones now with these electronics.. Things have definitely changed. It all showed be outlawed IMO..
Much like Boone and Crockett is re-evaluating and looking to change its rules on all of this long range hunting and use of electronics for book animals.. It reaches a point were its not "hunting". It's just killing.. And many animals are crippled and lost because everybody is a LR sniper these days.. BIG changes are coming.. Last edited by ttaxidermy; 01-18-2022 at 02:01 PM. |
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Ten Point
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Oklahoma
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Ten Point
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Oklahoma
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Pope & Young
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Brazoria county
Hunt In: Brady,McCulloch Cnty, Brazoria cnty, South Africa, Namibia Nebraska
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Ten Point
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Pilot Point
Hunt In: Cooke, Denton, Oklahoma
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Am I wrong or aren't those fish in there for us to catch? I've had livescope since last spring, it does not make the fish magically jump in the boat. It will allow you to target suspended fish easier but they still have to bite. I'd wager most people who buy livescope won't spend the time to learn it and be effective with it anyway. They'll go out and play with a for a little while then go back to throwing their favorite plug or chatterbait at the bank. |
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#39 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Winnie, Tx
Hunt In: The woods, Val verde/Edwards line
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Your correct but in the spring there will only be a couple months where those fish are vulnerable and people can catch them up shallow. With the new technologies the times of year when those fish would be able slide off in deeper water and be unmolested is gone and with more and more information it will get easier and easier for people get on those fish which will increase catch rates.
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#40 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Porter Trash
Hunt In: San Augustine
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Crappie fishing is what livescope is going to eventually hurt bad. Its not weekend anglers that catch 30 or 40 per trip. Its the 100s of guides that take 4 to 6 people daily sometimes twice a day and they all limit out. 100 to 200 crappie per guide sometimes twice a day. That will put a serious hurt on the fish and fishery and do it sooner than later.
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#41 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Wise Cty
Hunt In: Young Cty
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Yeah, the real fisherman. I'm talking about the new crowd coming in because of the "cool tech", just out there for the facebook glory.
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#42 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2012
Hunt In: Bosque Brown Hill McLennan Navarro Counties
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Are you the Dru from BTL?
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#43 |
Six Point
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Crawford Tx
Hunt In: Crawford, Brownwood
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Most think you can stick a livescope on your boat and go catch them. That’s not the case at all.
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#44 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Brazoria county
Hunt In: Brady,McCulloch Cnty, Brazoria cnty, South Africa, Namibia Nebraska
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#45 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Brazoria county
Hunt In: Brady,McCulloch Cnty, Brazoria cnty, South Africa, Namibia Nebraska
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#46 |
Eight Point
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Clyde
Hunt In: Callahan County/Val Verde County
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This is absolutely true. I’ve got livescope and I’m not even close to proficient with it. Sure you’ve got an advantage with finding the fish, but there are nowhere near as many experts out there as you might think. Us weekend warriors will still struggle even with the new technology.
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#47 | |
Ten Point
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: North Texas
Hunt In: Wise county
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And if you read my previous post, I said I'm not against it. But it will lead to a reduction in numbers. Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk |
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#48 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Porter Trash
Hunt In: San Augustine
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#49 |
Six Point
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Crawford Tx
Hunt In: Crawford, Brownwood
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#50 |
Six Point
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: SETX
Hunt In: Deer Stand
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Same thing happening with deer and to combat it, people are putting up high fences so they can let deer reach maturity before they shoot them. Thus, usually bigger antlers. But in a big lake what can you do? I think its going to end up similar to public hunting. More strict regs, seasons, times, dates, etc.
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