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Old 02-15-2020, 09:58 AM   #101
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Man, that's awful, makes me sick to hear it. Were they clustered in the bottom deep and refused to go through the second deep to the syrup? I wonder if some pollen patties would have helped? Sorry this happened....
That’s exactly what happened. Not a situation that’s talked about much. I’ll never put winter backup feed in a top feeder again. Right down on the frames for now on. I pulled three frames on the middle of the top deep on my other hives and put down wax paper on top of the bottom frames then poured 5 lbs of sugar and put in a poultry watered with 2 to 1 syrup on the other side. My other hives went right to it. Only way I’m doing it for now on. The walls bee man on youtube uses the poultry waterer like this with great success.

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Old 02-16-2020, 06:48 PM   #102
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Put 2 Supers on this weekend, looking pretty good. Gonna wait for some better weather to do a split.

Using Flow hive supers with flow frames. I know, I know, some of yall not gonna agree. But the Bees have definetly took a likeing to them.

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Old 02-20-2020, 09:26 AM   #103
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Well, I guess I killed this thread
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It's not dead.

We started with bees last spring. Two hives with some help from a local resource and Texas State University student - great kid.
My wonderful wife has more details that I do but we have recently joined a few local groups and Meetups and will be more active in them this year.
I've been doing the 1:1 sugar:water mix all winter and they seem to be doing fine. Our hives are setup in a 1/2 shady spot as per the recommendation we were given.
We are looking to do some splits this spring and work towards our needed six-seven hives by four years from now. We are on 7 acres.
If we get some honey in that time frame then that is a bonus to me.
We will be planting a few more fruit trees this spring and cutting out some more cedar. This fall we plan on spreading more wildflower seeds.
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Sounds great. I too spread some seeds this past month. Have some trees Im gonna plant tomorrow.
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Planted several trees and plants today for the bees, Got a few left, gonna finish tomorrow.
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Good for you then, but I know what effects mine. Hasn't been the weather either. lol


Weather effects range conditions they forage in, their ability to go out and forage and overall stress of the hive. Dense humidity, rain, hot and dry, warm ups to 70 after it froze the night before, etc. Wait until you are checking a yard full of hives and a shower rolls thru, theyíll let you know quickly they arenít happy with the precip. Hot and dry during the dearth near September youíll almost have to hold off on inspections because robbery will be so fierce when going thru double deeps checking on queen acceptance. When you run through 35-40 inspections in an afternoon youíll get a good feel for how the hives are acting due to the weather, I promise.
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This year is shaping up to better than last for us, hope to have deep honey supers taller than these were last year in a couple of months! Going to make about 40 splits around the middle of March when the queen shipment comes in. Been a full time part time job getting the deeps and frames ready in the evenings. Good luck gentlemen!
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Dang son, you aint wasting time.
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Can't this time of the year or you'll wake up and be behind before you know it!
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I'm learning how important timing is with bees, it's tough on us "I probably need to go check that" kinda guys. Got 2 hives that were looking ok early Dec., checked them mid Jan and they were in critical condition!
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Can't this time of the year or you'll wake up and be behind before you know it!
Your a few weeks ahead of us. We had 32degree weather this AM. Not to much is blooming right now, but its coming.
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Your a few weeks ahead of us. We had 32degree weather this AM. Not to much is blooming right now, but its coming.





Have full frames of pollen building up right now and brood patterns are in both double deeps. Wonít be long till we are elbow deep making splits....
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Good pollen coming in.....

Going to supplement some of the weaker hives Monday or Tuesday to try and get them caught up before splits are made. One of my biggest challenges is keeping them all about the same weight and size numbers wise.....
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Old 02-22-2020, 08:40 PM   #115
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28 degrees here this morning but by 130 the bees were warmed up and working hard.

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Old 02-23-2020, 09:25 PM   #117
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Harvested my first time this past year, friends said best they had ever tasted.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:48 PM   #118
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Still learning. I have 10 hives right now. Hoping to get up to 20 someday. Still learning the ropes.
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Iíve got a hive in the bottom of a camper in spur TX. Trailer Has a false floor that can be unscrewed from underneath to access. Anyone who wants to rescue this hive can do so. This is the year to get them as they will not be here next year no matter what. They are massive A-holes and we are tired of getting stung for nothing. Pm me if you want them


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Masters, i'm in year 4 of beekeeping...question, you do not use supers? you use deeps in place of your supers?
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gotta watch the shady area where you keep your hives. My wife and I did that when we first started beekeeping and had a tough fight with hive beetles. Lost a couple of hives to them. We found that if you keep the hives in direct sunlight, it gets too warm in the hive for the beetles. Since we have changed to a sunny area, our beetle problem as been very few.
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Ok whats the difference between a Deep and a Super?
Well, I answered my own question.

A Super is around 5-6inches deep, a Deep is the same size as a Brood box or similar in size. Didn't know that. I have usually seen, heard a Deep labeled as a Super.
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Iíve got a hive in the bottom of a camper in spur TX. Trailer Has a false floor that can be unscrewed from underneath to access. Anyone who wants to rescue this hive can do so. This is the year to get them as they will not be here next year no matter what. They are massive A-holes and we are tired of getting stung for nothing. Pm me if you want them


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lmao, some of the meanest bees I ever caught were in a popup camper....
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:27 PM   #126
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Question for Masters.....

What do you do with honey left over from winter?

Checked my 3 hives last week and i have about 3 supers full of honey

Should I spin it down? Try to store it and save for a possible summer dearth?

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Old 02-24-2020, 03:33 PM   #127
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Masters, i'm in year 4 of beekeeping...question, you do not use supers? you use deeps in place of your supers?
Shallow or medium drawn comb is useless to me and my bees 8 months out

of the year. I do not use shallow or medium supers for that very reason. For

the bees, the most valuable thing they make is drawn comb. Takes 8-12

pounds of honey to draw out one pound of wax. I make a fair amount of

splits each year, so after extracting the honey from the deep frames I either

freeze the drawn comb wet or use the back when I make splits directly after

puling all my honey and there is a surplus of bees in each hive. It puts the

splits a little ahead for when we get a little nectar flow early fall. Each deep

super nets about 56-58 pounds of honey which I store in 5 gallon buckets till

I pour it in 1 pound bottles to label and sell. During a heavy spring nectar

flow the bees will draw and fill 10 deep frames with nectar in about 5-7

days. Id hate to have to keep up with them using medium or shallow supers.

you'd risk them shrinking the brood pattern with nectar and having them

swarm in between checks about every 5 days. Just my 2 cents, I'm not a

commercial beekeeper so take it for what its worth.
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My hives the other day were pretty active so I was pretty happy with that, coming out of winter slowly. I want to insure my queens are still there because I'm wanting to split these hives when the numbers get back up. Should I split them according to their population or when the pollen starts coming in? I can't really find anyone that has told me for certain when.
Don't want to screw this up for the year. (Am in NE Texas) thx
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Question for Masters.....

What do you do with honey left over from winter?

Checked my 3 hives last week and i have about 3 supers full of honey

Should I spin it down? Try to store it and save for a possible summer dearth?

thanks,

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I winter 90% of my bees in double deeps. The top brood box will be all

honey and the bottom will be 5-6 frames of honey. If they still have excess

honey right now, just give it a minute. When the pollen from dandelion,

texas groundsel and agarita start blooming heavier (its been in my area for

a week 10 days now) the bees will expand the brood pattern to collect as

much pollen as they can off of that. The only downfall is there is very little

nectar available to forage on so the bees will uncap and consume their

available honey to get by until the rest of the nectar producing flowers catch

up and start blooming. That's just my opinion so don't take it for the gospel.
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lmao, some of the meanest bees I ever caught were in a popup camper....


These are nowhere near that mean come get em.


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My hives the other day were pretty active so I was pretty happy with that, coming out of winter slowly. I want to insure my queens are still there because I'm wanting to split these hives when the numbers get back up. Should I split them according to their population or when the pollen starts coming in? I can't really find anyone that has told me for certain when. Don't want to screw this up for the year. (Am in NE Texas) thx
Its kinda of and open ended subject that depends on your area. Pollen in my

area of Wilson County has been steadily picking up for the past

2 weeks. Very little nectar, and with the risk of a few more cold days

knocking the pollen producers back I fed my first round of pollen sub today

and will feed syrup to some of the bigger hives that are getting lighter than

Id like towards the first of next week. A hive that has 5-8 deep frames of

brood could end up consuming near all of its stored honey in 10 days to two

weeks, shrink the brood pattern back down to a couple of frames and

wasted all that effort on their part, be low on food and not have enough

bees to keep the moths and beetles fended off. When the bees are rolling I

like to keep them rolling till I make the first splits and the nectar flow picks

up and they really take off. My hives are starting to produce a fair amount of

drones in the burr comb. I like to make my first splits of the year around the

second to third week of March. I do not make walk away splits as the feral

bee population in my area is pretty hot. Thus meaning I have to wait for the

first shipment of queens bred far outside of the Africanized zone to arrive

about the third week of March. In my area its still about 2 weeks early to

make walkaway splits (If that's what you are planning on doing).
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I own ten acres and will be getting bees very soon. The spot I have picked out to place the boxes is almost directly under some large power lines. A friend that has a family history with bee keeping mentioned that it could potentially bother the bees. Any one have any experience with bees being bothered by over head power lines?
I have transmission lines within 80 yards of one of my bee yards that I keep about 15-18 hives at, and never had them interfere with any of my bee keeping.
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Masters, you are the man
Hahaha, when you think you've got them all figured out, they WILL humble you!


Keeping bees will certainly make you be more in tune with range conditions in your area. Dictating the bees response to certain range conditions is the hard part. Its the million dollar question so to speak....

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gotta watch the shady area where you keep your hives. My wife and I did that when we first started beekeeping and had a tough fight with hive beetles. Lost a couple of hives to them. We found that if you keep the hives in direct sunlight, it gets too warm in the hive for the beetles. Since we have changed to a sunny area, our beetle problem as been very few.

Im not saying what Im about to mention pertains to 100% of the situations

such as you mentioned about losing a hive to small hive beetles, but in my

experience small hive beetles(SHB) and wax moths are usually a secondary

problem. The primary problem is usually varroa related. By the time a hive

is weakened to the point by varroa to be able to succumb to SHB or wax

moths, beeks often fail to have noticed the primary problem that caused the

secondary problem and just chalk the loss up to the secondary problem. I've

had to learn the hard way how devastating varroa can be to a bee yard if

you tend to ignore it or think it doesn't exist.
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Giving them a hand up this morning....
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Since itís too early to split in my area, this hive got another deep for room. Both deeps were full of bees, and the 9 frame brood pattern had expanded to both deeps. Itís crucial to give them room or else youíll loose half of them to swarming, and run the risk of not having enough drones to mate with your virgin queen that is left to lead the hive. I do not keep local genetics, and my queen breeder is still 4-5 weeks out, so giving them room was the only option for now.
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Swarm traps ready to go. I put out 2 on my property the rest are going to the deer lease and spread out over 1500acres.
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Since itís too early to split in my area, this hive got another deep for room. Both deeps were full of bees, and the 9 frame brood pattern had expanded to both deeps. Itís crucial to give them room or else youíll loose half of them to swarming, and run the risk of not having enough drones to mate with your virgin queen that is left to lead the hive. I do not keep local genetics, and my queen breeder is still 4-5 weeks out, so giving them room was the only option for now.
Are you feeding any internally ?
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Are you feeding any internally ?
I feed both pollen sub and syrup internally. I use a 2 gallon feeder from mann lake for the syrup. Fed pollen subs today to the weaker hives and will feed syrup next week. Its hard to keep them all the same!
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Swarm traps ready to go. I put out 2 on my property the rest are going to the deer lease and spread out over 1500acres.
Nice work! I catch enough bees and make splits to not have time to try swarm traps these days. I tried a few in the past just like the ones you have and didn't have much success. Hope you have better luck than I did!
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Nice work! I catch enough bees and make splits to not have time to try swarm traps these days. I tried a few in the past just like the ones you have and didn't have much success. Hope you have better luck than I did!
I hope to have some success. Iíve done a good bit of research but in the end itís up to the bees. Guys in my area catch 5 to 8 swarms a year using 5 traps. If I can catch half that Iíll be tickled. Would like to be up to 10 hives by summer. Have two strong hives Iím going to do walk away splits on as soon as queens become available in my area.
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I feed both pollen sub and syrup internally. I use a 2 gallon feeder from mann lake for the syrup. Fed pollen subs today to the weaker hives and will feed syrup next week. Its hard to keep them all the same!
I feed pollen in a feeder outside the hive. I kept hearing donít feed pollen patties because SHB love them but thatís not an issue in winter so now I wish I had fed them. Live and learn I guess.
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I winter 90% of my bees in double deeps. The top brood box will be all

honey and the bottom will be 5-6 frames of honey. If they still have excess

honey right now, just give it a minute. When the pollen from dandelion,

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nectar available to forage on so the bees will uncap and consume their

available honey to get by until the rest of the nectar producing flowers catch


up and start blooming. That's just my opinion so don't take it for the gospel.
Great stuff
thank you very much

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I had a problem with feeding pollen patties to my hives and the SHB laying larvae in it (disgusting) so I took the patties out
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Old 02-25-2020, 12:10 PM   #146
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Nice work! I catch enough bees and make splits to not have time to try swarm traps these days. I tried a few in the past just like the ones you have and didn't have much success. Hope you have better luck than I did!
Its a lot of fun catching/relocating bees. We enjoy that as much as the bee keeping part.
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Old 02-25-2020, 02:11 PM   #147
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make sure you have beetle jails and micro cloth in the hives to help control the hive beetle, then try using a smaller amount of pollen patty in the hive, something the bees can consume in two or three days....
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I had a problem with feeding pollen patties to my hives and the SHB laying larvae in it (disgusting) so I took the patties out
During the mid summer months into the early fall I would not feed pollen sub internally in patty form, you run the risk of SHB laying larvae in it like you mentioned as the dearth has caused the brood pattern to shrink down to 1/4 of what it was a few months before. Those times its best to feed it dry in a feeder near the hives. For the most part I do not ever have any problems with SHB and wax moths.
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Its a lot of fun catching/relocating bees. We enjoy that as much as the bee keeping part.
Sometimes I can be work, but it dang sure is satisfying work. Especially when you have people that stop to watch and are astonished with your talent. I enjoy the little ones that are intrigued the most....
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Old 02-25-2020, 09:36 PM   #150
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Sometimes I can be work, but it dang sure is satisfying work. Especially when you have people that stop to watch and are astonished with your talent. I enjoy the little ones that are intrigued the most....
We were removing a hive down in the quarters, a brother walked by and said we were some bad motherf...., well you get the point. Bees were flying everywhere, it was our first recovery. I still have that hive today.
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