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Old 02-11-2019, 04:50 PM   #1
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What is everyones opinions on the grendel for deer size game? I have no experience with this caliber and want to swap my upper to something larger. I read that a grendel upper can be used on a 223 lower. What weights are yall using?
Saw PSA has the complete uppers for a good price. It was either that spend the extra for the complete PSA 6.5 CM thats on sale for 799


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Old 02-11-2019, 04:54 PM   #2
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I've only killed two deer and a couple of hogs with it so far but all were DRT. 123gr SSTs tear a pretty good hole! It's generally the gun I grab when headed to the stand.

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Old 02-11-2019, 05:10 PM   #3
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the 123's are good to go on deer, if you do your part on shot placement.
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Old 02-11-2019, 05:39 PM   #4
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Old 02-11-2019, 05:48 PM   #5
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Old 02-11-2019, 05:49 PM   #6
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head Shot a doe late season - DRT
pig killing little round too.
Only wish there was a larger selection of ammo and at more locations. Hard to find in small town USA.
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Old 02-11-2019, 05:51 PM   #7
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Nothing wrong with it for deer. I have shot 3 deer & numerous pigs with mine. Great low recoiling caliber for hunting.
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Old 02-11-2019, 06:00 PM   #8
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123gr SSTs, no tracking needed.


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Old 02-11-2019, 06:01 PM   #9
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Both the bucks I shot in 2017 didn’t complain, nor did they take a step. One of them was a 175 lb’er at 210 yards coming out of a 12.5” barreled 6.5 Grendel SBR.

Like Dale said, the SST’s and the Black ELD-M have both been bad medicine for anything I’ve shot.

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Old 02-11-2019, 06:03 PM   #10
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Grendel is a great deer caliber! It was the first caliber I built in an AR, hard to decide on the next caliber in AR when you start with the best! LOL
It will be noticeably lighter than the AR10 6.5 CM.
Lowers will interchange no problem.
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Old 02-11-2019, 06:07 PM   #11
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I swap between 223 and 6.5 grendel upper. Mine doesn't like the hornady sst . I'm waiting on some federal Msr. To show up in the mail box.. I haven't killed anything with it yet but it seems like a capable round..
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Old 02-11-2019, 06:36 PM   #12
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123 SST's have efficiently killed many a deer and hog for our family. Ballistic/KE tables don't do the round justice. My proof comes from many kills with the 6.5G.
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Old 02-11-2019, 06:42 PM   #13
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I shot two axis a few weeks ago and it worked great. The shots were both behind the shoulder at over 100yds and neither took a step.

Load was 123gr Hornady eld-m, both shots passed through with great terminal damage without "blowing up"
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Old 02-11-2019, 07:20 PM   #14
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Any of you guys shooting the psa 20 inch ? Best I could do was 2 in group at 100 yds with the factory hornady rounds..
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Old 02-11-2019, 07:32 PM   #15
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My gunsmith swears by the round. He has built his girlfriend 3 guns in that caliber and she has killed pigs, deer, and yotes with it.

I have considered the round myself.
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Old 02-11-2019, 07:38 PM   #16
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Old 02-11-2019, 10:44 PM   #17
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Any of you guys shooting the psa 20 inch ? Best I could do was 2 in group at 100 yds with the factory hornady rounds..


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I would like to know this as well. Thats the reason i started this thread because im looking hard at the PSA 20 upper in 6.5 grendel.

I shot 8 hogs in two groups last week with my 223. Shooting the hornady 55 grain spire point. First hog shot in the face actually ran off. The group ran to me, and i hit 3 more point blank in the neck and shoulders. Visible blood and they made it 200+ yards to the neighbors.

Second group busted out and i hit 4 more, dropping one.

The 223 is fun, but i want a little more knock down power if i continue to hunt with an AR.


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Old 02-11-2019, 10:57 PM   #18
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My 11 yr old took a Javi at 165yds at Chap this year along with 2 whitetails and 2 hogs at Abilene State Park.

We built our 6.5G together and for less than you can purchase a pre-built unit.
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I would like to know this as well. Thats the reason i started this thread because im looking hard at the PSA 20 upper in 6.5 grendel.

I shot 8 hogs in two groups last week with my 223. Shooting the hornady 55 grain spire point. First hog shot in the face actually ran off. The group ran to me, and i hit 3 more point blank in the neck and shoulders. Visible blood and they made it 200+ yards to the neighbors.

Second group busted out and i hit 4 more, dropping one.

The 223 is fun, but i want a little more knock down power if i continue to hunt with an AR.


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The Grendel is your piece.


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Old 02-11-2019, 11:00 PM   #20
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I would like to know this as well. Thats the reason i started this thread because im looking hard at the PSA 20 upper in 6.5 grendel.


I bought the cheap 18" SST bull barrel from Delta Team Tactical.
https://www.deltateamtactical.com/EL...8T_p_8489.html
Shooting 123g Hornady SST @ 100yd 1" or less.

Now the wolf steel case ammo on the other hand...you would be good to hold a 4" circle @ 100yds, but it sure is fun and cheap to shoot.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:06 PM   #21
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Thanks for the replies. Guess i will be ordering an upper pretty soon.

Dale, any suggestions on Optics? I have the Nikon P223 but i dont think the mil dots transfer to any other caliber offerings


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Old 02-11-2019, 11:07 PM   #22
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Also, what sort of range are you getting out of these setups?


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Old 02-11-2019, 11:09 PM   #23
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I just put a Vortex that I had on it, I don't really know much about mil dots.


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Old 02-11-2019, 11:22 PM   #24
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I love my 6.5 Grendel on whitetail... shooting 123 grain SST... I harvested 5 doe this year with no issues.


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Old 02-11-2019, 11:38 PM   #25
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I bet it kills things.
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:23 AM   #26
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Thanks for the replies. Guess i will be ordering an upper pretty soon.

Dale, any suggestions on Optics? I have the Nikon P223 but i dont think the mil dots transfer to any other caliber offerings


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Use the Nikon spot on app. You can plug in your Ballistics or use factory loads and it will tell you where to aim.
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:29 AM   #27
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I've only killed two deer and a couple of hogs with it so far but all were DRT. 123gr SSTs tear a pretty good hole! It's generally the gun I grab when headed to the stand.

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Ive only hunted a handful of time with my Grendel and same results. Two hogs and both were DRT (no head or neck shots either).




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Old 02-12-2019, 12:32 AM   #28
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Use the Nikon spot on app. You can plug in your Ballistics or use factory loads and it will tell you where to aim.
I have one scope with that reticle. Im impressed. Plug in your data, and it tells you what to do. I have the 4-12 buck master, and sighted in at 100 the dots correlate at **** near 100 yard intervals at 10x.

I might have to buy a couple more.
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Any of you guys shooting the psa 20 inch ? Best I could do was 2 in group at 100 yds with the factory hornady rounds..
I dont have the PSA 20" but my upper doesnt like SST either. I shoot 123 ELDM at deer and 120 Gr. Fusion. Took a very large boar a couple of weeks ago with Fusion. DRT
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:02 AM   #30
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I dont have the PSA 20" but my upper doesnt like SST either. I shoot 123 ELDM at deer and 120 Gr. Fusion. Took a very large boar a couple of weeks ago with Fusion. DRT
I ordered a couple boxes of the fusion msr. Hoping for better results..
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:23 AM   #31
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Mine likes the 123 SST/ELDM. Doesnt like the fusions.

Barnes do very well as do 135 Bergers.


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I have shot a few deer with mine. 123 SST's did great damage and the deer did not go far at all. However none of them had an exit wound which was a little disturbing.
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:30 AM   #33
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:42 AM   #34
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head Shot a doe late season - DRT
pig killing little round too.
Only wish there was a larger selection of ammo and at more locations. Hard to find in small town USA.
gunbot.net is where I always look for ammo
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:54 AM   #35
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Anybody shooting the 130gr Federal Gold Metal? I picked up a few boxes and my Grendel shoots them well.
Just haven't had a chance to shoot a hog or deer.
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I have shot a few deer with mine. 123 SST's did great damage and the deer did not go far at all. However none of them had an exit wound which was a little disturbing.


I used to shoot the SST in a 270 win and 308. 5 deer and a dozen hogs and none exited. The SST loses all its energy in the body. Basically blows up.


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^^^ I didn't like the SST in my grendel either.
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I'm a lazy hunter who doesn't like tracking jobs. And that's why I shoot the Grendel.
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My furthest with my 12.5 6.5 G SBR has been 381 yds.
At that distance it is still moving around 1750fps with 840 lbs of energy.




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Just haven't had a chance to shoot a hog or deer.


Yes they shoot great but I wont use them for hunting, especially at the relatively lower velocity of the Grendel. They are extremely consistent for factory ammo though.




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I used to shoot the SST in a 270 win and 308. 5 deer and a dozen hogs and none exited. The SST loses all its energy in the body. Basically blows up.


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The way I understood it the SST is designed to come apart at those velocities, but at around 2300 ft./s it should mushroom more like a normal bullet.

I don't think we've ever had an exit wound with Grendel, except for a pig I shot in the head, but we've never needed one.


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Yes they shoot great but I wont use them for hunting, especially at the relatively lower velocity of the Grendel. They are extremely consistent for factory ammo though.




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I have some Hornady black also i will try. It shot well also.
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:33 PM   #45
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Here is what the Hornady Black 123gr Grendel will do at 150yds, shot a Axis spike in Dec. no pass thru, he took 5 steps and fell over.

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Old 02-13-2019, 12:20 AM   #46
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Ive shot a lot of deer with my grendel. Its absolutely great for deer. 123 amax bullets. No longer made though, I have a stash of em.
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Old 02-13-2019, 12:41 AM   #47
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It came down to those two calibers (6.5 Grendel vs 6.8 SPC II)for me as well. The 6.5 Grendel shoots flatter and maintains more energy further out. I knew I wanted a 16" barrel or less in the ar15 platform, and 95% of my shots are under 200 yards. These circumstances gave the 6.8 SPC II the slight advantage ballistically. But what really tipped the scale for me was that I don't reload, and the 6.8 had more factory hunting ammo options commercially available than the 6.5 Grendel.
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I've been following along and it looks like a lot of you really like the Grendel.
What are your opinions about bolt action vs AR Grendel?

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Just a personal thing ,but if CZ or howa would make a Grendel in left hand I would be all over it. My son shot his friends 7.62x39 in a cz & said it was sweet. I have no issues with my Grendel in the AR ,just like bolt guns.
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