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Old 11-27-2022, 11:54 PM   #1
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Old 11-28-2022, 05:34 AM   #2
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Wow, thatís a HUGE area. Millions of people, restaurants, etc that are affected.
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Old 11-28-2022, 05:51 AM   #3
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Thanks for the heads up. Shared with my coworkers.

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Old 11-28-2022, 07:02 AM   #4
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It's Houston. Probably should be boiling your water anyways.

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Old 11-28-2022, 07:02 AM   #5
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Yep, HISD and a few other schools close due to this. Issue caused the pressure to drop below minimum standard, or something along those lines.
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Old 11-28-2022, 07:24 AM   #6
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Dora is on it !!! no worries
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Old 11-28-2022, 07:24 AM   #7
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HISD
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Aldine ISD
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Closed today

Something about a power outage and low water pressure


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Old 11-28-2022, 07:39 AM   #8
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Water tastes fine this morning. Just good probiotics!
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Old 11-28-2022, 07:43 AM   #9
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Dumped first pot of coffee...
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Old 11-28-2022, 07:53 AM   #10
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Seeing this now and glad we are not in the area. Whatís the risk and type of bugs/parasites they are concerned about?
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Old 11-28-2022, 08:13 AM   #11
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Seeing this now and glad we are not in the area. Whatís the risk and type of bugs/parasites they are concerned about?
that would be my first question. and a better interactive map
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Old 11-28-2022, 09:00 AM   #12
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Our fridge has a serious filter system. Bet it will be impossible to find a open restaurant today...
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Old 11-28-2022, 09:03 AM   #13
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Cryptosporidium, giridia, coliform, are several organisms that could cause problems in untreated water.
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Old 11-28-2022, 09:06 AM   #14
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Cryptosporidium, giridia, coliform, are several organisms that could cause problems in untreated water.
Are those probiotics? Heard I need to eat more them
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Old 11-28-2022, 09:18 AM   #15
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You might get the "skitters".
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Old 11-28-2022, 10:01 AM   #16
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It's just a precaution, drink up.
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Old 11-28-2022, 10:04 AM   #17
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It may actually be an improvement!
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Old 11-28-2022, 10:12 AM   #18
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Restaurants are open. Bottled water only...
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Old 11-28-2022, 11:18 AM   #19
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Just to help some better understand...

Any time a public water system drops below 20 psi they are required by TCEQ (Texas Commission on Environmental Quality) to issue a boil water notice. This happens in rural areas of Texas quite frequently just based on small line sizes, line breaks and long system lines (non looped).
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Old 11-28-2022, 11:49 AM   #20
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The more concerning part, why was the state not notified until 8 hours in? Did Harris county not know of the loss of power and depressurization? Did they know and refuse to report? Did they not know they were supposed to report it?

That last one scares me the most because that proves the incompetence of people in charge. And my opinion we are going to find out that was the case. I am glad I live in a MUD.
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Old 11-28-2022, 12:05 PM   #21
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Just to help some better understand...

Any time a public water system drops below 20 psi they are required by TCEQ (Texas Commission on Environmental Quality) to issue a boil water notice. This happens in rural areas of Texas quite frequently just based on small line sizes, line breaks and long system lines (non looped).
This. It's an EPA requirement. It doesn't mean the water is dangerous necessarily, just a CYA when there is a pressure loss for some reason. That reason could be like mentioned above or for general maintenance duties like replacing an old valve or something similar.
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Old 11-28-2022, 12:24 PM   #22
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The more concerning part, why was the state not notified until 8 hours in? Did Harris county not know of the loss of power and depressurization? Did they know and refuse to report? Did they not know they were supposed to report it?

That last one scares me the most because that proves the incompetence of people in charge. And my opinion we are going to find out that was the case. I am glad I live in a MUD.
The city is run by complete morons. Nothing surprises me with pothole turner & dora the xplorer running it.
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:30 PM   #23
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Reminds me a little of "you done messed up A-A-Ron!" How does a city of 2 million people get in this scenario from a power outage? Seems like power outages ought to be a predictable enough occurrence to have a backup plan?
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:57 PM   #24
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The more concerning part, why was the state not notified until 8 hours in? Did Harris county not know of the loss of power and depressurization? Did they know and refuse to report? Did they not know they were supposed to report it?

That last one scares me the most because that proves the incompetence of people in charge. And my opinion we are going to find out that was the case. I am glad I live in a MUD.
There are many MUD's that are affected by this. You can do a search for the list.
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Old 11-28-2022, 02:00 PM   #25
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Situation is, When PSI drops below 20, ground water MAY be able to backflow into a leaking pipe somewhere, Contaminating who knows how much of an area.
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Old 11-28-2022, 02:06 PM   #26
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Situation is, When PSI drops below 20, ground water MAY be able to backflow into a leaking pipe somewhere, Contaminating who knows how much of an area.
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This is the correct answer.
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Old 11-28-2022, 02:45 PM   #27
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There are many MUD's that are affected by this. You can do a search for the list.
That's right, I should have been more clear. Our MUD is on its own well system, not tied into the CoH system. I would never want to live on the CoH system.
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Old 11-28-2022, 02:55 PM   #28
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The more concerning part, why was the state not notified until 8 hours in? Did Harris county not know of the loss of power and depressurization? Did they know and refuse to report? Did they not know they were supposed to report it?

That last one scares me the most because that proves the incompetence of people in charge. And my opinion we are going to find out that was the case. I am glad I live in a MUD.
Houston is following the rules. Who cares how long it takes till they notify the state. The state won't do anything to fix it. TCEQ doesn't do anything except send a letter out months later. TCEQ won't mess with Houston anyway.
Their too big.
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Old 11-28-2022, 03:02 PM   #29
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Houston is following the rules. Who cares how long it takes till they notify the state. The state won't do anything to fix it. TCEQ doesn't do anything except send a letter out months later. TCEQ won't mess with Houston anyway.
Their too big.

All TCEQ is going to do is issue the fine when all said and done .
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Old 11-28-2022, 03:09 PM   #30
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Houston is following the rules. Who cares how long it takes till they notify the state. The state won't do anything to fix it. TCEQ doesn't do anything except send a letter out months later. TCEQ won't mess with Houston anyway.
Their too big.
Waiting 8+ hours to tell residents of the county is within the rules? I am genuinely asking, I don't know, because that seems like a serious flaw if that is true.

If the issue occurred, no one reports it to the public, then someone drinks the water, gets sick, and dies, that is going to be a massive lawsuit. But then again, we saw what the city of Flint got away with. So who knows.
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Old 11-28-2022, 05:13 PM   #31
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Waiting 8+ hours to tell residents of the county is within the rules? I am genuinely asking, I don't know, because that seems like a serious flaw if that is true.

If the issue occurred, no one reports it to the public, then someone drinks the water, gets sick, and dies, that is going to be a massive lawsuit. But then again, we saw what the city of Flint got away with. So who knows.
They have 24 hours to notify the customers. The water is fine and no one is going to get sick since they have chlorine in the water.

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Old 11-28-2022, 05:43 PM   #32
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How does a city of 2 million people get in this scenario from a power outage? Seems like power outages ought to be a predictable enough occurrence to have a backup plan?
2 reasons:

1. The city is run by inept politicians who fund their own special interests instead of maintaining infrastructure.

2. The residents vote for the above losers, don't care to spend a dime on infrastructure until something breaks, then want someone else to pay for fixing it.
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