Game Warden Visit

[1riot1ranger]

Had a visit from local Game Warden this weekend. Nothing unusual about that except in 40+ years of hunting I've never had one come onto my private property to check us. I'm not complaining about that either. We had a good visit, all was well, and we parted on friendly terms.

What made me wonder about this visit is the new Digital Licenses and tags. I'm using the digital license and submitted info, including a precise pin to my location, and tagged following directions. Game Warden shows up and wants to see the head and confirm if a number is attached to it. I wonder if the digital license tag got me the warden visit. Anyone else with digital license have an unusual visit?

[fish4food]

You probably just let him know where a camp was at in the last 40+ years he had no idea about.

[SanSaba007]

Think I will stay with the hard copy.


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[waterdog]

buckle up this will go 2 pages +.

[BlessedVeteran0305]

Hard copy for me thanks.

[Hoytbowhunter]

Originally Posted by SanSaba007

Think I will stay with the hard copy.


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I’m heading, this is the last year for paper.

[Colton]

This should be civil

[Sparkles]

Originally Posted by 1riot1ranger

Had a visit from local Game Warden this weekend. Nothing unusual about that except in 40+ years of hunting I've never had one come onto my private property to check us. I'm not complaining about that either. We had a good visit, all was well, and we parted on friendly terms.

What made me wonder about this visit is the new Digital Licenses and tags. I'm using the digital license and submitted info, including a precise pin to my location, and tagged following directions. Game Warden shows up and wants to see the head and confirm if a number is attached to it. I wonder if the digital license tag got me the warden visit. Anyone else with digital license have an unusual visit?

First year on new place, so nothing to gauge by, but also did digital license and had a visit
Nothing tagged digitally yet so more than likely coincidence
Very nice guy, the kids got a kick out of him.


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[toledo]

You should have asked him.

So the digital tag requires you to provide the exact location of every deer killed? Only reason they could want that would be for enforcement purposes.

[hogslayer78]

I have a hard copy but I have a question for you guys with the digital. Are the tag numbers issued to you already at the time of purchase? Do you have to enter it at time of kill and get the number? What if you dont have cell service at your lease?

[Evolver]

Originally Posted by Hoytbowhunter

I’m heading, this is the last year for paper.

That might be hard to enforce when there is still a whole lot of TX where some of us are hunting without cell service. Not to mention creating a legal requirement to own / be in possession of a cell phone in order to hunt.

[bowhuntingw]

Originally Posted by 1riot1ranger

Had a visit from local Game Warden this weekend. Nothing unusual about that except in 40+ years of hunting I've never had one come onto my private property to check us. I'm not complaining about that either. We had a good visit, all was well, and we parted on friendly terms.

What made me wonder about this visit is the new Digital Licenses and tags. I'm using the digital license and submitted info, including a precise pin to my location, and tagged following directions. Game Warden shows up and wants to see the head and confirm if a number is attached to it. I wonder if the digital license tag got me the warden visit. Anyone else with digital license have an unusual visit?

GWs cant see the location. Digital tag requires more out of the hunter than paper. You need a charged phone, cell signal, rememebering to initate the tag if you don't have signal and then completing tag when you do have signal and then you still have to attach the confirmation number legably on a durable piece of material. paper tags are much simplier. Maybe the state is trying to appease to the generations that grew up on a cell phones, not sure. yeah this thread can grow a lot as mentioned above, especially when people start questioning GWs authority, but him showing up on private land in the state of Texas to check tagging compliance on a deer is part of the job and written into law. I hope he was friendly.

[SCREAMINREELS]

Originally Posted by toledo

You should have asked him.

So the digital tag requires you to provide the exact location of every deer killed? Only reason they could want that would be for enforcement purposes.

Not exact location. I don’t have it but considered it for convenience. Warden stopped by our place to check on us and we asked him about it as a lot of areas we hunt may not have service. Said it’s mainly to make sure for game laws so more so make sure it’s tagged accordingly. Said you can just write bumbler on paper or duct tape and for location it’s more to make sure you’re abiding by county restrictions so if you have to do it when you get to a gas station in town it’s fine as long as he can see you started it already apparently can tell when you start filling it out etc. I’m curious about it. Said this is kind of a trial and we will eventually go 100% digital and get rid of the old paper tags

[Anvilheadtexas]

If you shoot a deer off your wife’s tags, do you have to use her phone or can you just use your phone to complete this digital tag? Asking for all the East Tx people.

[mzurovec]

Originally Posted by anvilheadtexas

if you shoot a deer off your wife’s tags, do you have to use her phone or can you just use your phone to complete this digital tag? Asking for all the east tx people.

😂😂😂😂

[highspeed]

Originally Posted by Anvilheadtexas

If you shoot a deer off your wife’s tags, do you have to use her phone or can you just use your phone to complete this digital tag? Asking for all the East Tx people.

😂 You think East Tx people use tags 😂

[Strummer]

Originally Posted by Anvilheadtexas

If you shoot a deer off your wife’s tags, do you have to use her phone or can you just use your phone to complete this digital tag? Asking for all the East Tx people.

I was wondering if they had daylight tags and night time tags ?

[M16]

Originally Posted by Evolver

That might be hard to enforce when there is still a whole lot of TX where some of us are hunting without cell service. Not to mention creating a legal requirement to own / be in possession of a cell phone in order to hunt.

Exactly. What law says that I have to have a cell phone in order to hunt?

[Flint knapper]

Hard copy for me!

Let him know that in the future that I would expect him to show up when I'm not hunting!

[Jon B]

Originally Posted by Anvilheadtexas

If you shoot a deer off your wife’s tags, do you have to use her phone or can you just use your phone to complete this digital tag? Asking for all the East Tx people.

East TX people buy a license?

[AntlerCollector]

My grandson will be 3 next season. Do I need to buy him a cell phone to tag his deer when he kills his buck on youth weekend with my 7mag?





3 seems a bit young for a phone.

[SCHC]

I believe one of the main reasons for the push to digital is cost. No more providing the machines to print the license or material for it. No more “lost my license” for the people who run out of tags. I would not doubt there is some type of geolocation software it installs on your phone to see where you are if they want - maybe tin foil hat, maybe not. Paper for me till the end.

[LWD]

Originally Posted by Jon B

East TX people buy a license?

I didn’t think I needed one to spotlight.

[jdg13]

Originally Posted by SCHC

I believe one of the main reasons for the push to digital is cost. No more providing the machines to print the license or material for it. No more “lost my license” for the people who run out of tags.

It's all about saving money and making everything "easy" so there's no excuses. No license to print (state saves $), no log on the back to fill out (because that seems impossible for so many, but everyone can use a phone). Saves money on the front and makes it easier to make more on the back.

[HogHunter34]

I tag mine…with a 150 grain round

[tps7742]

So GWs walking onto your private property because they feel like it.

[M16]

Originally Posted by tps7742

So GWs walking onto your private property because they feel like it.

That’s the way the law is at the present time. That doesn’t mean it is constitutional. Hopefully it will get challenged one day and the courts will rule against that practice. Same with them being able to search your cooler and stuff without your permission or a search warrant.

[M16]

https://www.fieldandstream.com/conse...-trail-cameras

[sasqy]

Democrats trying to keep tabs on you !

[DRT]

Make him a cup of coffee and a sammich.

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[OldRiverRat]

I’m not in favor of it, I got the hard copy but I don’t how this is much different than Oklahoma’s process. When you kill a dear you have to call in and register the kill within 24 hours.


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[Briar Friar]

Originally Posted by fish4food

You probably just let THE STATE know where a camp was at in the last 40+ years he had no idea about.

Slow clap.

[DRT]

Originally Posted by OldRiverRat

I’m not in favor of it, I got the hard copy but I don’t how this is much different than Oklahoma’s process. When you kill a dear you have to call in and register the kill within 24 hours.


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Missouri as well but never had the skunk marshall show up after a telecheck.

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[Duckologist]

Originally Posted by M16

Same with them being able to search your cooler and stuff without your permission or a search warrant.

False

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[toledo]

So with electronic license, do you have to keep your phone on you at all times? When Im duck hunting, it usually stays in the boat or truck which can be a long ways away. Hell, Ive got an old phone with a battery that's dead half the time.

[tvc184]

Originally Posted by M16

Exactly. What law says that I have to have a cell phone in order to hunt?

None.

Yet….

[rtjh]

Why do they want the exact kill location if they're supposedly not going to do anything with it.....

Seems fishy to me. I'll keep the paper license.

[M16]

Originally Posted by Duckologist

False

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Sec. 12.104. RIGHT TO SEARCH AND INSPECT. (a) A game warden or other peace officer commissioned by the department may search a game bag, vehicle, vessel, or other receptacle if the game warden or peace officer has a reasonable, articulable suspicion that the game bag, vehicle, vessel, or receptacle contains a wildlife resource that has been unlawfully killed or taken.
(b) A game warden or other peace officer commissioned by the department may inspect a wildlife resource or a part or product of a wildlife resource that is discovered during a search under Subsection (a) of this section.
(c) In this section "wildlife resource" means an animal, bird, reptile, amphibian, fish, or other aquatic life the taking or possession of which is regulated in any manner by this code

[oneeye]

Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

My grandson will be 3 next season. Do I need to buy him a cell phone to tag his deer when he kills his buck on youth weekend with my 7mag?





3 seems a bit young for a phone.

Awesome!

[huntandfishguy6]

Big Brother Watching !

[DedDuk]

Originally Posted by M16

Sec. 12.104. RIGHT TO SEARCH AND INSPECT. (a) A game warden or other peace officer commissioned by the department may search a game bag, vehicle, vessel, or other receptacle if the game warden or peace officer has a reasonable, articulable suspicion that the game bag, vehicle, vessel, or receptacle contains a wildlife resource that has been unlawfully killed or taken.
(b) A game warden or other peace officer commissioned by the department may inspect a wildlife resource or a part or product of a wildlife resource that is discovered during a search under Subsection (a) of this section.
(c) In this section "wildlife resource" means an animal, bird, reptile, amphibian, fish, or other aquatic life the taking or possession of which is regulated in any manner by this code

So, green jeans checks you. You show him license, weapon, place you killed animal. Does he have reasonable, articulable suspicion that the wildlife resource was unlawfully killed or taken?

[CoolHandLuke]

Any confirmation when or if they will really go digital only and ho paper tags?

[Buckshot-73]

Jiminy Christmas, I can’t believe we went two weeks without a good ole GW bashing thread.

Yea.

[Hoggslayer]

Originally Posted by DedDuk

So, green jeans checks you. You show him license, weapon, place you killed animal. Does he have reasonable, articulable suspicion that the wildlife resource was unlawfully killed or taken?

That was my question. So much for innocent until proven guilty. I've had them step on my boat and go straight to the live well, then ask to see all my other stuff. Guess I just looked suspicious to them.

[FCoDxDart]

I'm not bashing game wardens here, but if you ask a game warden about how it works on the back end and you think he's telling you everything, you're being naive.

[Quackerbox]

Originally Posted by M16

Sec. 12.104. RIGHT TO SEARCH AND INSPECT. (a) A game warden or other peace officer commissioned by the department may search a game bag, vehicle, vessel, or other receptacle if the game warden or peace officer has a reasonable, articulable suspicion that the game bag, vehicle, vessel, or receptacle contains a wildlife resource that has been unlawfully killed or taken.
(b) A game warden or other peace officer commissioned by the department may inspect a wildlife resource or a part or product of a wildlife resource that is discovered during a search under Subsection (a) of this section.
(c) In this section "wildlife resource" means an animal, bird, reptile, amphibian, fish, or other aquatic life the taking or possession of which is regulated in any manner by this code

This was all covered in another thread that went on for days.

The key word in that statute is MAY not SHALL. Words mean things. He cant just come in and start throwing lids of coolers for no reason.

No one remembers the dead owl story from yesteryear? Where the guy posted a pic online of an owl that he hit with his truck alongside with dead ducks for the day. GW showed up and wanted to search his house and he told them to pound sand. No warrant, no entry?

They left. Granted they came back with a warrant but the bottom line is the still have the follow the 4th

[TxBowHntr]

I think the main reason they are pushing for digital licenses is so they have the data. With hard tags, they have no visibility to any of the game harvested. With digital licenses, they will have some of that data and, theoretically, could use it to better manage the herd.

[Spearchunker]

Crazy how much they don't know. I invited one to our 12k acres in Childress. He had no idea we were there. Camp is at least 40 years old.

[DedDuk]

Originally Posted by Spearchunker

Crazy how much they don't know. I invited one to our 12k acres in Childress. He had no idea we were there. Camp is at least 40 years old.

Never invite GW to camp. If he's coming, he's gonna have to find it on his own.

[tdwinklr]

Originally Posted by Quackerbox

This was all covered in another thread that went on for days.

The key word in that statute is MAY not SHALL. Words mean things. He cant just come in and start throwing lids of coolers for no reason.

No one remembers the dead owl story from yesteryear? Where the guy posted a pic online of an owl that he hit with his truck alongside with dead ducks for the day. GW showed up and wanted to search his house and he told them to pound sand. No warrant, no entry?

They left. Granted they came back with a warrant but the bottom line is the still have the follow the 4th

this.