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Originally posted by Shane View PostHow long is your lease agreement for? You don't have to renew it. You don't have to renew it with the same language if you do renew it. If your lease agreement doesn't address stocking rate, then it should the next time you sign one. If he doesn't agree to it, don't lease to him again. Between now and then sit down and talk to him about your concerns and expectations. If he still isn't agreeable, then either stick it out until the lease is up or talk to your lawyer about what options you have to try to get him to either comply or end the lease early.
Cattleman can destroy his pasture if he waits it out
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Originally posted by squirrel View PostIts 100 acres and right now its 9 heifers, and 1 bull, but he just sold off I think 8 calves. Its an older guy so I am compassionate to an extent, but I think that effects his thoughts on future leasing opportunities. I have documented correspondence, just looking for what levers I can pull. I thought the water was pretty reasonable (there is still a large tank) versus say taking my gates off for repairs.
Originally posted by texansfan View PostEvery county from Carthage to Texarkana it's 1 head per acre.
What county is your pasture in?
Shhhhhhhh. It’s ok not to know something and listen.
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Sounds like you shouldn’t charge him a thing and be glad you got an ag exemption.
10 pairs on a lease ain’t wort any cattleman’s headache. Unless it’s within spitting distance of his house.
And even then it would just be a convenience thing to break off some cows to put with a special bull to raise some replacements or a place to raise yearlings maybe...
Just being honest..
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I have a hard time seeing how 10 head on 100 acres is over grazing it, even if 9 of them had a calf with them before. Unless the majority of this property is all thick brush and no grass. As far as feeding hay, it's winter time, a lot of ranchers are feeding hay this time of year. That's the point of spending all spring and summer rolling it up. Grasses go dormant this time of year and lack in growth and nutrition, hay supplements what the ground isn't doing in the winter.
So what evidence has made you believe for the last 6 months or more that it's being over grazed? To me if you don't think this property can handle the few head, you shouldn't even be charging anyone to graze it. Pull the contract, remove the livestock get rid of your ag exemption and just hunt it. That or spend some money clearing it and improving it so that it will hold 15-20 head with no problems, as it should
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I had it in Wildlife before Ag and NRCS said 15-20 acres per head is right. The rancher agrees he is overgrazing, he has flat out said he thinks he has me since I didnt limit the head count in the lease. There isnt much grass on the place at all, mainly trees and scrub brush. Appreciate the comments.
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