Damar Hamlin at game Sunday

[RiverRat1]

So I guess he's doing better now?

Any word on what caused his injury yet?

[ORIONTHEHUNTER]

The only things I have seen was that it was a once in whatever million hit that caused his heart to stop. Basically a perfectly timed trauma to the chest that caused his heart to quit

[kurt68]

LOL, conspiracies are flying everywhere about that. No close ups of him, no face shots. dead for almost 10 minutes and CPR breaking ribs, but he is jumping around raising arms, son and mom walks in without him. Something stinks.

[npe001]

Originally Posted by kurt68

LOL, conspiracies are flying everywhere about that. No close ups of him, no face shots. dead for almost 10 minutes and CPR breaking ribs, but he is jumping around raising arms, son and mom walks in without him. Something stinks.

This right here..

[Voodoo]

Was he at the game ?

[Voodoo]

https://twitter.com/Censored4sure/st...62977305268224

[PondPopper]

Originally Posted by Voodoo

https://twitter.com/Censored4sure/st...62977305268224

This man is spot on..
If you still believe what you are being fed then you will believe anything being told..

[WItoTX]

Originally Posted by PondPopper

This man is spot on..
If you still believe what you are being fed then you will believe anything being told..

How do you know this guy isn't a deep state FBI guy trying to trick drunk rednecks into kidnapping the governor, I mean proving Damar Hamlin isn't real?

[PondPopper]

Originally Posted by WItoTX

How do you know this guy isn't a deep state FBI guy trying to trick drunk rednecks into kidnapping the governor, I mean proving Damar Hamlin isn't real?

Im trusting my gut on this one.. It rarely leads me wrong.

[Shane]

That was laughable. Clearly not him. If he would have really been there, they would have shown his face at every break in the action.

[Mossback]

Originally Posted by Shane

That was laughable. Clearly not him. If he would have really been there, they would have shown his face at every break in the action.

Exactly

[RiverRat1]

Originally Posted by Shane

That was laughable. Clearly not him. If he would have really been there, they would have shown his face at every break in the action.

I wasn't watching the game and didn't read too much on all of this.

So who all is saying it was him there? I mean was all the media, announcers etc saying it was him the entire time?

[ORIONTHEHUNTER]

Originally Posted by RiverRat1

I wasn't watching the game and didn't read too much on all of this.

So who all is saying it was him there? I mean was all the media, announcers etc saying it was him the entire time?

Yes it was mentioned quite a few times throughout the game.

[WItoTX]

Lot's more questions raised from that "appearance" than answers. I've never met a guy with broken ribs able to jump, raise arms, etc...

I agree, something stinks.

[tminc]

No way that was him,another conspiracy theory on the loose.

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[dgilbert]

Originally Posted by tminc

No way that was him,another conspiracy theory on the loose.

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Yep government behind all the way.

[Walker]

Who said he had broken ribs?? I've done cpr probably 100 times and ribs don't break except in geriatric patients.

[WItoTX]

Originally Posted by Walker

Who said he had broken ribs?? I've done cpr probably 100 times and ribs don't break except in geriatric patients.

Apparently you are the outlier. Data shows us it happens more often than not:

"The incidence of rib fractures after CPR is reported in over 70% of CPR cases, with a mean number of 7.6 broken ribs per person (8)."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...ade%20(1%2C2).

And let's be honest, they have not shared any information since he went into the hospital other than his heart stopped and they restarted it with CPR.

[Voodoo]

Now that we have slightly changed the subject, I have to ask…Walker, how many of those “over 100” you performed CPR on live? I’m looking for a pattern here

Originally Posted by WItoTX

Apparently you are the outlier. Data shows us it happens more often than not:

"The incidence of rib fractures after CPR is reported in over 70% of CPR cases, with a mean number of 7.6 broken ribs per person (8)."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...ade%20(1%2C2).

And let's be honest, they have not shared any information since he went into the hospital other than his heart stopped and they restarted it with CPR.

[Walker]

Originally Posted by Voodoo

Now thate have slightly changed the subject, I have to ask…Walker, how many of those “over 100” you performed CPR on live? I’m looking for a pattern here

One lived and we were on scene when the patient arrested, defribulated within minutes. All the rest were down unknown time. It defribulation that saves lives. Cpr just buys time. The last ce I took had cpr effectiveness decreased by 10% per minute without defribulation.

[firemanjj82]

Originally Posted by Voodoo

Now that we have slightly changed the subject, I have to ask…Walker, how many of those “over 100” you performed CPR on live? I’m looking for a pattern here

We've had several that have come back to thank us. The ones who break are obvious. This isn't apples to apples. A professional athlete that takes and gives hits for a living, trains his muscles, tendons, ligaments, and yes, bones to do a job, will be much more resilient to compressor trauma than a person his same age that's sedentary in comparison. Ribs may break, but not completely, only crack. His issue with the hit that put him in arrest was where and how. Look at the video and see that he hit the brakes but the other player didn't. Physics says that energy has to go somewhere, so it was all transferred to his chest and heart. You can throw a heart out of rhythm just slightly with blunt force like that (precordial thump), but it all has to do with how well the heart can recover from it. If the rhythm can't regulate, then the other parts of the heart will start to kick in to maintain some form of perfusion. Even then, it's a backup, but may not be good enough to maintain consciousness or other neurological functions. Look up "intrinsic rate of the heart" . Each part does its own thing if the other doesn't work. He may not have flatlined, but could've been an irregular rhythm that required a jumpstart of defibrillation to get it organized again. Normal cardiac rehab patients take 8-12 weeks to recover from a stent. He had an arrest, defibrillation, compressions...it could be months or a year before he's back to competition level. Or not at all.

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[WItoTX]

Originally Posted by firemanjj82

We've had several that have come back to thank us. The ones who break are obvious. This isn't apples to apples. A professional athlete that takes and gives hits for a living, trains his muscles, tendons, ligaments, and yes, bones to do a job, will be much more resilient to compressor trauma than a person his same age that's sedentary in comparison. Ribs may break, but not completely, only crack. His issue with the hit that put him in arrest was where and how. Look at the video and see that he hit the brakes but the other player didn't. Physics says that energy has to go somewhere, so it was all transferred to his chest and heart. You can throw a heart out of rhythm just slightly with blunt force like that (precordial thump), but it all has to do with how well the heart can recover from it. If the rhythm can't regulate, then the other parts of the heart will start to kick in to maintain some form of perfusion. Even then, it's a backup, but may not be good enough to maintain consciousness or other neurological functions. Look up "intrinsic rate of the heart" . Each part does its own thing if the other doesn't work. He may not have flatlined, but could've been an irregular rhythm that required a jumpstart of defibrillation to get it organized again. Normal cardiac rehab patients take 8-12 weeks to recover from a stent. He had an arrest, defibrillation, compressions...it could be months or a year before he's back to competition level. Or not at all.

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I could make the argument that he has a higher likelihood of microfractures and tears since he is a football player, making cracked ribs even more possible. Or to take your position to the logical end, since he is young, athletic, and resilient, he should rehab quickly compared to your normal cardiac patient.

The bottom line is we are speculating because everyone is being hush-hush about it, and that is leading to rumors and hearsays. Why not be open about it? If he's in really rough shape, why not be honest? If he is in great shape, why not be honest? Why shouldn't his medical history be out there for all to see?

[Jmh05]

Originally Posted by firemanjj82

We've had several that have come back to thank us. The ones who break are obvious. This isn't apples to apples. A professional athlete that takes and gives hits for a living, trains his muscles, tendons, ligaments, and yes, bones to do a job, will be much more resilient to compressor trauma than a person his same age that's sedentary in comparison. Ribs may break, but not completely, only crack. His issue with the hit that put him in arrest was where and how. Look at the video and see that he hit the brakes but the other player didn't. Physics says that energy has to go somewhere, so it was all transferred to his chest and heart. You can throw a heart out of rhythm just slightly with blunt force like that (precordial thump), but it all has to do with how well the heart can recover from it. If the rhythm can't regulate, then the other parts of the heart will start to kick in to maintain some form of perfusion. Even then, it's a backup, but may not be good enough to maintain consciousness or other neurological functions. Look up "intrinsic rate of the heart" . Each part does its own thing if the other doesn't work. He may not have flatlined, but could've been an irregular rhythm that required a jumpstart of defibrillation to get it organized again. Normal cardiac rehab patients take 8-12 weeks to recover from a stent. He had an arrest, defibrillation, compressions...it could be months or a year before he's back to competition level. Or not at all.

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I would no way recommend returning to professional contact sports after that. But I'll let the homeopath's on the green screen have that argument.

[SB09]

Originally Posted by firemanjj82

We've had several that have come back to thank us. The ones who break are obvious. This isn't apples to apples. A professional athlete that takes and gives hits for a living, trains his muscles, tendons, ligaments, and yes, bones to do a job, will be much more resilient to compressor trauma than a person his same age that's sedentary in comparison. Ribs may break, but not completely, only crack. His issue with the hit that put him in arrest was where and how. Look at the video and see that he hit the brakes but the other player didn't. Physics says that energy has to go somewhere, so it was all transferred to his chest and heart. You can throw a heart out of rhythm just slightly with blunt force like that (precordial thump), but it all has to do with how well the heart can recover from it. If the rhythm can't regulate, then the other parts of the heart will start to kick in to maintain some form of perfusion. Even then, it's a backup, but may not be good enough to maintain consciousness or other neurological functions. Look up "intrinsic rate of the heart" . Each part does its own thing if the other doesn't work. He may not have flatlined, but could've been an irregular rhythm that required a jumpstart of defibrillation to get it organized again. Normal cardiac rehab patients take 8-12 weeks to recover from a stent. He had an arrest, defibrillation, compressions...it could be months or a year before he's back to competition level. Or not at all.

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I'll ask you the same as I've asked other medically trained professionals...

So then why would he need to be brought back to normal rhythm 2 or 3 times depending on what source you look at? Seems like if this was just a typical Commotio Cordis situation, like we are being told, once the heart was restarted it would return to functioning unless there's some sort of underlying issues at play.

[ORIONTHEHUNTER]

I also never heard of any report of broken ribs. Also I know the Bills coach has said he has been at team functions previously to this game.

[justletmein]

They said the CPR cracked ribs, which I believe is common. It may not be as severe as impact-injury broken ribs like we're thinking? Just spitballing here. I can't imagine why they'd try to pull off a fake like this, too risky.

[TxDispatcher]

This is the first I've heard of any of this...which certainly seems odd. One would think his face would be plastered everywhere if he was indeed at team functions. Again, this is the first I've heard of any of this, so maybe there are photos out there

[WItoTX]

Originally Posted by TxDispatcher

This is the first I've heard of any of this...which certainly seems odd. One would think his face would be plastered everywhere if he was indeed at team functions. Again, this is the first I've heard of any of this, so maybe there are photos out there

I would love to see one too.

[Big Lee]

His face covered supporte the Mask up movement. No reason for the NFL. Fox anyone to fake him being there.

[cehorn]

Originally Posted by Big Lee

His face covered supporte the Mask up movement. No reason for the NFL. Fox anyone to fake him being there.

No reason for Fox or NFL? I'm not saying whether he was there or not and don't really care. I hope he is ok and I really hope it is just the 1 in a million thing they keep mentioning. But IF this happened as a result of a mandated jab to an otherwise healthy individual (hashtag died suddenly) there is your reason. Cover it up and keep sticking and promoting boosters....

[justletmein]

Originally Posted by cehorn

No reason for Fox or NFL? I'm not saying whether he was there or not and don't really care. I hope he is ok and I really hope it is just the 1 in a million thing they keep mentioning. But IF this happened as a result of a mandated jab to an otherwise healthy individual (hashtag died suddenly) there is your reason. Cover it up and keep sticking and promoting boosters....

Exactly. I don't think they faked it, but it's absolutely in the NFL's (and anyone who forced the shot) best interest to downplay issues like this.

[rut-ro]

Damar Hamlin attends first Bills game since suffering cardiac arrest - YouTube

Still on oxygen and heart monitor. He was not jumping around

[SmTx]

What's he supposed to do lay around and wait to die?

[Hoss163]

So y’all think he wasn’t at the game? Y’all think he has died ? Are what exactly are y’all thinking here?

[Huntingfool]

Originally Posted by Hoss163

So y’all think he wasn’t at the game? Y’all think he has died ? Are what exactly are y’all thinking here?

it is silliness -

[Landrover]

Originally Posted by Bayouboy

I think he was there and actually played in the game. Minimum of two series.
They were transporting him back and forth from his nice and cozy booth to the field by means of teleportation. "Beam me up Scotty"

Sounds about as legit as some of y'alls theories

Originally Posted by Huntingfool

it is silliness -

[Walker]

Originally Posted by Hoss163

So y’all think he wasn’t at the game? Y’all think he has died ? Are what exactly are y’all thinking here?

There is some history here.

[WItoTX]

Originally Posted by Hoss163

So y’all think he wasn’t at the game? Y’all think he has died ? Are what exactly are y’all thinking here?

I have no idea. The biggest red flag here is, I have never seen a little brother act like Damar's little brother, Damir. When a little brother is around his big brother, they mimic everything the older brother does. Or show any emotion at all. Damir looks like he is in another world.

And isn't it just a little bit coincidental that the only time a camera was allowed to peek into the box Damar was in, was when he was standing up, waiving his arms?

The video's raise a lot of questions. Few probably have an answer to your question. Ignoring the shady-ness of the video is sort of putting the blinders on though.

[Hunting4fun]

Originally Posted by Hoss163

So y’all think he wasn’t at the game? Y’all think he has died ? Are what exactly are y’all thinking here?

Maybe he is still recovering and is in worse shape than we are led to believe and the NFL wants to downplay the situation by acting like he was there? I think it was him there but it is kinda sus how their wasn't any decent pics.

[PYBUCK]

Originally Posted by Hunting4fun

Maybe he is still recovering and is in worse shape than we are led to believe and the NFL wants to downplay the situation by acting like he was there? I think it was him there but it is kinda sus how their wasn't any decent pics.

What I have seen in he is still recovering and has a long way to go before he is fully recovered. I do not think he will ever play again. Just my opinion but I don't think the Bills would chance him having another episode. I don't think he will ever clear a physical and be cleared to play.

[PondPopper]

Originally Posted by PYBUCK

What I have seen in he is still recovering and has a long way to go before he is fully recovered. I do not think he will ever play again. Just my opinion but I don't think the Bills would chance him having another episode. I don't think he will ever clear a physical and be cleared to play.

So why lie about the state of his health, we all seen him die? What does that accomplish?
What are they hiding?

[UncleBubba]

NFL is getting exactly what they wanted from the whole situation...

[GroceryGetter]

https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/da...e-tweets-clone


Reminds me of E.T. when he in the bike basket with blanket wrapped around his head.

[Bayouboy]

I think he was there and actually played in the game. Minimum of two series.
They were transporting him back and forth from his nice and cozy booth to the field by means of teleportation. "Beam me up Scotty"

Sounds about as legit as some of y'alls theories

[Hoss163]

I do know the bills lost by 3 scores to honor him

[RiverRat1]

So we seem to have two sides to this. Tin foil hat guys and the "they wouldn't lie to us" guys.

Why not place a friendly wager if you think it was all fake? Or if you think people saying it's fake it stupid or silly? Neither side has a leg to stand on for not betting with talk like that.

Logical questions...
1. Has he ever been in public where he remains unrecognizable in the past?
2. Doesn't he promote a charity and hasn't he always been very front and center to be seen in the past?
3. Why not show your face?
4. Why not do an interview even if for 5 seconds at the game? That would advance him 10 fold
5. Why not come out now after all these rumors and do a 5 second video saying it was him. He can do this in private or in public.

[Vargas 1695]

Never been to Buffalo but it seems pretty normal to be wearing clothing to protect face and head up there. Looks like a jacket with a hoodie and a face mask.

[justletmein]

Originally Posted by Vargas 1695

Never been to Buffalo but it seems pretty normal to be wearing clothing to protect face and head up there. Looks like a jacket with a hoodie and a face mask.

Not in the skybox booth it's not. I still don't think they faked it but there's definitely something weird about it all.

[RiverRat1]

Originally Posted by Vargas 1695

Never been to Buffalo but it seems pretty normal to be wearing clothing to protect face and head up there. Looks like a jacket with a hoodie and a face mask.

Except his young brother and mother didn't seem cold... But ok.

[Arrow-Tek]

Originally Posted by Vargas 1695

Never been to Buffalo but it seems pretty normal to be wearing clothing to protect face and head up there. Looks like a jacket with a hoodie and a face mask.

Yes but in a nice warm cozy booth?