High school fishing cheaters in DFW

[eradicator]

Do they run high school tournaments in the summer? Seems like Slew is probably more right on the Working Man Tourney.....either way, not a good deal.

[tminc]

Anybody know the captains name?

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[Killer]

Once a cheat always a cheat. Good to have their names out there to protect the guys doing it right.

[tvc184]

Well done, grasshopper!

For those calling for prosecution by TPWD, what is the crime? Is it illegal to keep legal size bass in a container if under bag limit? Is there a penal code provision regarding cheating in a tournament? Very well could be, I just have no idea.

Fraud

[12ring]

Im in same boat as RR 314 (no pun intended).

What crime should they be prosecuted for?

[tvc184]

Im in same boat as RR 314 (no pun intended).

What crime should they be prosecuted for?

Fraud

[tvc184]

Either under the Penal Code or TPWD Code.

Remember that ignorance is not a defense to prosecution.

[RR 314]

Either under the Penal Code or TPWD Code.

Remember that ignorance is not a defense to prosecution.

Is there money involved in high school fishing tournaments? I am ignorant about such things. Obviously if there is prize money, fraud charges could be appropriate. All fraud crimes I’m aware of, and level of the offense, must involve $. If caught in a tournament with prize money in play I can see fraud, but it would be interesting to prove the monetary value prior to weigh in etc.

[RR 314]

Either under the Penal Code or TPWD Code.

Remember that ignorance is not a defense to prosecution.

Is there money involved in high school fishing tournaments? I am ignorant about such things. Obviously if there is prize money, fraud charges could be appropriate. All fraud crimes I’m aware of, and level of the offense, must involve $. If caught in a tournament with prize money in play I can see fraud, but it would be interesting to prove the monetary value prior to weigh in etc.

Edit: Just read and saw they “drew a check” in prior tournament/cheated. That would do it. I guess I’m getting old, I always thought that you lost your amateur status if you received money. Well, prior to NIL swamp.

[crash8005]

Well done, grasshopper!



For those calling for prosecution by TPWD, what is the crime? Is it illegal to keep legal size bass in a container if under bag limit? Is there a penal code provision regarding cheating in a tournament? Very well could be, I just have no idea.

Straight from the TP&W code:

Sec. 66.023. FRAUD IN FISHING TOURNAMENTS. (a) In this section, "fishing tournament" means a contest in which a prize is to be awarded to one or more participants in the contest based on the weight, length, number, or type of fish caught by the participants or based on any other criteria applicable to the fish caught.

(b) A person commits an offense if, with intent to affect the outcome of a fishing tournament:

(1) the person provides, offers to provide, sells, or offers to sell a fish to a participant in the tournament for the purpose of representing that the fish was caught by the participant in the course of the tournament;

(2) the person, as a participant in the tournament, accepts or agrees to accept a fish from another person for the purpose of representing that the fish was caught by the participant in the course of the tournament;

(3) the person, as a participant in the tournament, represents that a fish was caught by the person in the course of the tournament when in fact the fish was not caught by that person or the fish was not caught in the course of that tournament;

(4) the person alters the length or weight of a fish for the purpose of representing that the fish as entered in the tournament was that length or weight when caught; or

(5) the person enters a fish in the tournament that was taken in violation of any provision of this code or a proclamation or regulation of the commission adopted under this code.

(c) A person commits an offense if the person sponsors or conducts a fishing tournament and knows of the occurrence in the tournament of activity prohibited by Subsection (b) of this section and does not immediately notify a law enforcement officer commissioned by the director of its occurrence.

(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor, except that if the offense occurred during a tournament in which any prize or combination of prizes to be awarded for any one category for which an award is given, whether the prize or prizes are to an individual or a team, is worth $10,000 or more in money or goods, the offense is a felony of the third degree.

Transferred, redesignated and amended from Parks and Wildlife Code, Section 66.119 by Acts 2011, 82nd Leg., R.S., Ch. 114 (H.B. 1806), Sec. 1, eff. May 21, 2011.



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[tvc184]

Straight from the TP&W code:

Sec. 66.023. FRAUD IN FISHING TOURNAMENTS. (a) In this section, "fishing tournament" means a contest in which a prize is to be awarded to one or more participants in the contest based on the weight, length, number, or type of fish caught by the participants or based on any other criteria applicable to the fish caught.

(b) A person commits an offense if, with intent to affect the outcome of a fishing tournament:

(1) the person provides, offers to provide, sells, or offers to sell a fish to a participant in the tournament for the purpose of representing that the fish was caught by the participant in the course of the tournament;

(2) the person, as a participant in the tournament, accepts or agrees to accept a fish from another person for the purpose of representing that the fish was caught by the participant in the course of the tournament;

(3) the person, as a participant in the tournament, represents that a fish was caught by the person in the course of the tournament when in fact the fish was not caught by that person or the fish was not caught in the course of that tournament;

(4) the person alters the length or weight of a fish for the purpose of representing that the fish as entered in the tournament was that length or weight when caught; or

(5) the person enters a fish in the tournament that was taken in violation of any provision of this code or a proclamation or regulation of the commission adopted under this code.

(c) A person commits an offense if the person sponsors or conducts a fishing tournament and knows of the occurrence in the tournament of activity prohibited by Subsection (b) of this section and does not immediately notify a law enforcement officer commissioned by the director of its occurrence.

(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor, except that if the offense occurred during a tournament in which any prize or combination of prizes to be awarded for any one category for which an award is given, whether the prize or prizes are to an individual or a team, is worth $10,000 or more in money or goods, the offense is a felony of the third degree.

Transferred, redesignated and amended from Parks and Wildlife Code, Section 66.119 by Acts 2011, 82nd Leg., R.S., Ch. 114 (H.B. 1806), Sec. 1, eff. May 21, 2011.



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And you can see in (d) it says a prize worth goods or money. I cannot see where it defines prize so I would think that a first place trophy would be considered a good.

It doesn’t become a felony until the prize or money is over $10,000 but cheating in any fishing tournament where even trophies are given, appears to be at least a class A misdemeanor.

[Snowflake Killa]

They want to fish with grown men they should be treated like grown men. One thing is for sure they have ruined fishing for money ever again.


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[BTLowry]

Been a long time since I fished any bass tournaments but seems like a few of the bigger ones had a clause along the lines of "if you have ever cheated in any other tournament you are not eligible to compete"

Looks like an open records request would reveal what if any charges/citations were issued

[Krautzy]

I saw this yesterday, with photos of the kids smiling holding their fish. How do people knowingly cheat and then have no remorse? "Just smile for the picture boys they dont have a clue"

Just doesnt even register with me

[Gumbo Man]

Play stupid games and you should win stupid prizes. Hopefully the youngsters have learned a lesson at the very least.