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    #46
    Originally posted by rtp View Post
    Good question. My take is they serve a purpose in treating symptoms caused by underlying problems. I have several friends that tell me they have the greatest chiropractor in the world. They go see him once a week and he fixes them up. They will never go address the true root cause of their problem(s). I just shake my head at them. I do think at some point their chiropractor should tell them they need to go get their real problem fixed instead of just soaking them for money each week for years on end.

    Good luck to you on your journey and I hope you do great in your chosen profession.
    This is my take too for spinal issues.

    However...tremendous help in massaging a newborns childs flipped stomach. Truly works to remedy cholickyness, vomiting, increasing amount of breast milk consumption, sleeping through the night. Some newborns need one visit, some need several.

    Good luck Holub.
    Last edited by Briar Friar; 04-21-2021, 03:53 PM. Reason: FlippedStomachSpake

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      #47
      If you find a good one they can do wonders for you. I had chiropractic care for many years due to a snowmobile wreck I had when I was young. I don't have to go anymore and I attribute that to great chiropractic care.

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        #48
        Originally posted by curtintex View Post
        I can go to one to get my back cracked and feel like a new man. I feel they’re good for adjusting the alignment of your spine. That’s about it. I was on a deer lease with one of these types. Good dude who didn’t try to make chiropractic something it is not.

        I know of one that answers their phone “****** Chiropractic and Attorney Referral”. In cahoots with attorneys to get insurance money from auto, comp, etc. Doctor, attorney and patient each get 1/3 of settlement.

        I know of another that claimed to be able to cure everything from cancer to bed wetting. He’s dead now.

        I know another that told my wife how bad it was that she let our kids eat sugar. So.... every day that she went to see him, she’d stop and get the girls a snow cone to eat in the waiting room![emoji23]


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        Mrs. Tex seems like my kind of woman, CurtIn!

        To the OP, I am somewhat ambivalent regarding the efficacy of chiropractic treatments. I know a lot of people who swear by them but, personally, I've never derived any lasting therapeutic benefit from a treatment. Additionally, I tend to be somewhat science-driven and want to see the data that backs up the claims. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be much, though, admittedly, it's been quite a while since I've searched for any.

        I feel the same way about acupuncture; unless you can tell me why it works and how it works, I remain skeptical.

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          #49
          Never been to one but the EX loved 'em. 'Course she loved just about any guy who rubbed on her right!

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            #50
            After reading through the entirety of this post, I can't help but notice that the death rate among chiropractors seems to be rather high. ????

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              #51
              I have degenerative disk disease and have had two major surgeries that were a must. I then started to have more lower back issues that seriously aggravated my nerves. I’m on the road nonstop and that increased my issues so I decided to go see a chiropractor for an adjustment. After a couple adjustments, I felt great and now go in for the occasional adjustment. Just my experience and I suggest it to friends and customers all the time who have similar issues.

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                #52
                I’ve been to only one. I put it off for years until I couldn’t sleep with back, neck, and shoulder pain. In 4 visits I felt 20yrs younger again. I’ve been back for only a twisted rib since. It’s been a year since I’ve gone. As soon as I can get a day off, I could use another adjustment, but I’m still not in nearly as much pain as before I went the first time.

                On a related subject, what underlying issues would he be “treating the symptoms and not the problem”? The only problem I see is I use my body to do real work. I may not have nearly the problems if I sat at a desk all day, but I won’t be cooped up like an animal at a desk. I’d rather be out in whatever nature throws at me every day, using my body.

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                  #53
                  My experience after serving on a Jury trial that involved testimony from a Chiropractor?
                  Never hang a shingle saying the word "Doctor". Don't allow patients to address you as "Doctor".
                  If you have proper credentials, OK.

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                    #54
                    Depends totally on the chiropractor. I’ve had some that were great; thorough, pressure-sensitive....and others that must’ve thought I was a draft horse in a hurry.

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                      #55
                      Do you like chiropractors?

                      To kind of add my comment after a day of comments I will address everything that stood out to me.

                      To begin: Doctors of all kinds are only specialists in the field they’re trained in. While some fields overlap, not always do they understand reasonings. A MD saying I wouldn’t do such carries some weight but they also aren’t trained to notice certain things or how to fix them without drugs or surgery because it’s not in their toolbox. I had the option to go to medical school or chiropractic school and I chose what I did because I can’t fall in line with pushing all kids of pills.

                      Now there are many incompetent chiropractors and some who just plain out suck at adjusting. The doctor should take a detailed history and note what we call are contraindications to adjustments etc. For example, a DC I know had a patient come in with low back pain. She took x-rays and noticed what looked to be metastasis. She referred the patient for an MRI and called his PCP. The PCP blew her off until the MRI report came back. The patient was diagnosed with late stage metastatic prostate cancer and he died two week after coming into the office. Chiropractic school has come very far from where it used to be in the approaches and education.

                      Now onto adjusting, I have had some chiropractors adjust me and hurt me. It did not sour me on chiros, I just knew they didn’t have the skill, art and technique when it comes to adjusting. I was a possible surgical candidate but I also did know what kind of surgeon was on the other end of the scalpel and just like any other profession in the world, there are good and bad ones. My school is one that teaches on evidence based practice and unlike with drugs, it is more difficult to do trials. You can give a placebo drug but it is much more difficult to give a placebo or sham adjustment.

                      Fast forward to last year, I attended an adjusting seminar a doctor put on out of school and now I am that doctors patient. I wholeheartedly consider him the best doctor in the world. This doctor has taught his technique on 5-6 different continents, studied many different techniques from old english bone, studying in Germany for 5 years and many other places to formulate his own technique. When he took my x rays he said he could get me back to good mechanical condition with 8-12 visits. He did it in 6. Out of 10 DCs, I have never responded to adjustments as well as I did his. Now I only return every 2 weeks for a tune up. And I have learned his technique to a T. Instead of doing a typical spine adjustment, I was taught to adjust everything from head to toe including shoulders, elbows, wrists, hips, knees and feet. The nervous system is affected by everything and it has worked on me and for countless of others around the world from Sumo wrestlers to children.

                      Before I was more educated, I was naive going to who I thought was a good chiropractor (it was free to me) and my mother did the lump sum payment for 50-60 visits. She is no better than she was before and now only lets me adjust her. I was in the same boat as her, I went 2-3 times a week and over the course of months I was never any better and my cervical spine was still straight as a pencil.

                      In this forum, there may be some patients who have died but if you do the research, not many people died from chiropractic care. Typically, underlying conditions that are not seen or paid attention can result in fatality. There’s a reason that chiropractic malpractice insurance is as low as it is.

                      Thank you all for you comments/ opinions from outside my circle. Just curious on others thoughts and experiences. Those of you who have had great experiences, I’m glad to hear it! I truly believe chiropractic is more than just pain relief as it has helped me live a healthier life. To those of you who haven’t, I’m sorry you had a bad experience or ended up in more pain.


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                      Last edited by RyHolub; 04-21-2021, 07:58 PM.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Bluesman View Post
                        My experience after serving on a Jury trial that involved testimony from a Chiropractor?
                        Never hang a shingle saying the word "Doctor". Don't allow patients to address you as "Doctor".
                        If you have proper credentials, OK.

                        What in turn would someone with a doctorate degree be called? There are all kinds of doctors. Western medicine has only indoctrinated the term “Doctor” for medical practitioners.


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                          #57
                          I think they can be helpful for treating SOME back pain. But a lot of them will telling you they can use adjustments to treat diabetes and all kinds of crazy talk. I had one find out that my insurance covered twenty visits, guess how many visits my treatment plan required, 20.


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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Rcole1310 View Post
                            I think they can be helpful for treating SOME back pain. But a lot of them will telling you they can use adjustments to treat diabetes and all kinds of crazy talk. I had one find out that my insurance covered twenty visits, guess how many visits my treatment plan required, 20.


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                            Yes that is a far stretch and I can’t stand the doctors that do that just to squeeze out as much money as possible. I just want to help people get better and back to the best health possible. I believe if you’re good to people then good will come back to you.


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                              #59
                              You didn't answer my question, but I assume you are studying traditional chiro. What do you think about the no-force technique and do they teach it where you are.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Burnadell View Post
                                You didn't answer my question, but I assume you are studying traditional chiro. What do you think about the no-force technique and do they teach it where you are.

                                We do study traditional chiropractic manipulations using hands on but are you referring to using a tool/ instrument such as an activator or a tool similar that’s an electric gun looking somewhat like an impact? I believe there are multiple techniques that do not use force. Sorry for not responding to your question, I was shocked with the amount of responses!


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