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    #16
    Originally posted by doghouse View Post
    Let's start out by saying I am a conservative. More so than lot's of you on here. The wall they are going to build with the eminent domain rule with lots of ranchers will be a problem. How about if you owned land on the Rio Grande river and government said we cant build it in the middle of the river. We have to purchase so many acres from you 100 yards from the river and go all the way thru your property. You and your family lose all access to the river. That's where your livestock and deer watered. No more fishing, swimming, are recreation on the river. Just food for thought. I'm for the wall but have no idea how to do it and not ruin lives. Burn me if you want. I have thick skin.
    Seems many lives have been ruined for the lack of a wall.

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      #17
      Originally posted by TxAg View Post
      If I was a landowner on the Rio Grande, I wouldn't want the gubment seizing my land. They can monitor with drones or something else high tech.
      Bullets are pretty low tech, and cheap, and persuasive

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        #18
        This is a risk of a landowner on a federal border. I do completely understand your reasoning and I actually researched it a while back. I did that because I didn’t understand their complaints but now I do. There are some depending on how their property aligns with the river would loose a lot. However, they will be compensated.

        Did you see the cost of 55 miles? It’s very high and I’m guessing there is a fair amount for land purchase etc.

        If you live on the beach there are known issues that affect your property. It’s a known risk.
        Landowners on the Mexico border have known risks as well.

        There is a highway going through a county near many of you right now. It affects property in very similar fashions. Yet they are built without much resistance.

        The ONLY reason these property owners are being heard so loudly is because of the liberals who support no wall and open borders. You are not also hearing much from the landowners asking for closed borders and a wall.

        Unfortunately there is never a perfect solution.

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          #19
          Originally posted by flywise View Post
          Seems many lives have been ruined for the lack of a wall.
          and an enter country.

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            #20
            It's a bad deal no matter how you slice it...a buddy on the deer lease is going to loose 28 acres south of Weslaco of family farming land going back generations. He understands the plight better than any of us & has some unbelievable stories of mules sticking cell phones in his face with the attempt to talk to the mexican boss & being forced to deal with plata o plomo.

            Now it's not just 28 acres of dirt but 28 acres of dirt that make $$$$ year after year...he has lawyers working out the issues, but the wall is coming regardless.

            Biggest nonsense is the federal refuge land crap where a lot of the bs happens...this is where the battle gets really stupid. You can google 'Bentsen State Park Butterfly Center & the Border wall"

            These federal refuge lands have been the biggest joke where a ton of the illegal traffic happens but BP has limited to access...pretty frustrating. We are our own worst enemy.

            Mark my words, this round of current $$$$ going to the wall down here in the rgv is going to work & you are going to see a nasty upswing towards Zapata & webb counties in about two years. Then the cycle will continue I hope as something has to be done. The wall combined with a complete overhaul illegal immigration policy has to happen to stop the bleeding. Glad the wall is a first step.

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              #21
              Government will pay you before seizing land. May not be the price you want for it, but it won’t be just taken against your will.


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                #22
                Build the wall..... sorry if someone looses land, but it must happen

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                  #23
                  Mexico is more deadly than Iraq and Afghanistan. What do you think land sells for the acre there? I am very much pro land owner rights, but the land owners are essentially neighbors with a war zone. The vast majority of the land is agriculture and controlled by the cartels anyways.

                  As it relates to highways. Some developers will give land to the government for highways or schools, because they realize the development can boost the value of their remaining land. I think you could make the same argument with the border wall. If I were going to buy land in the valley I would much rather have a tract that has a big freaking wall along the Mexican border, than not.

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                    #24
                    Go ten miles south of the Rio and build it.

                    Mexico pays for it with the land we monitor it.

                    Like a DMZ...anyone there unlawfully...stays there forever.

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                      #25
                      Build it.. Land owners have lost land to every reason under the sun for years through imminent domain laws and most of those reasons were not nearly as important to this country as border security.. It MUST be done or we as a Nation will be done...

                      And I don't think folks use the Rio Grande for recreation such as fishing and swimming like you might think.. That river is filthy with pollution.. FILTHY...

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                        #26
                        Whoa, approximately 1,000 landowners representing 1.1 million acres of farming & ranch land have filed lawsuits. That is a lot of lawyering up by individuals. No idea how many lawsuits are by tree huggers, open border groups, etc, etc, etc. Gonna be awhile unpacking that mess..........and a lot of dollars!!!

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Landrover View Post
                          Whoa, approximately 1,000 landowners representing 1.1 million acres of farming & ranch land have filed lawsuits. That is a lot of lawyering up by individuals. No idea how many lawsuits are by tree huggers, open border groups, etc, etc, etc. Gonna be awhile unpacking that mess..........and a lot of dollars!!!
                          as long as taxpayers aren't paying for it, hire all the lawyers they want..

                          in the end they will loose.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by stickerpatch59 View Post
                            as long as taxpayers aren't paying for it, hire all the lawyers they want..

                            in the end they will loose.
                            Not about them loosing so much, it is about them getting a fair future value on their land. But less we forget, we as taxpayers are paying for their land through eminent domain.........and also paying for the wall, fence, barrier, etc.

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                              #29
                              55 miles of new border fencing coming to 1.4 billion isn't for construction only...

                              They aren't hiring lawyers with the hope of stopping the wall.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Landrover View Post
                                Not about them loosing so much, it is about them getting a fair future value on their land. But less we forget, we as taxpayers are paying for their land through eminent domain.........and also paying for the wall, fence, barrier, etc.
                                unless they get a wall, there will be no future value of their land, it will either be confiscated by some socialist gov't, or will just be a wasteland of a **** hiway for more invaders to proceed north.

                                imo , landowners are always offered a fair if not above the market price for their property. only then if they still refuse and want a hundred times what it's worth; then they will get screwed.

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