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    #31
    Originally posted by kyle1974 View Post
    no, it's actually a very well informed argument. There's nothing wrong with special needs kids, or requests. There is something wrong with people working the system in an unethical manner
    I agree. But I have known a lot of parents of kids with these issues that weren't. They were professional people, not welfare recipients gaming the system.

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      #32
      As a teacher, why fight it? So the kid gets some extra reading strategies and maybe a few accommodations to help him/her be successful. Your wife would be better off stress wise and the kid wouldn't be the pawn in a power struggle between your wife and the parents.

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        #33
        We had Riley tested at Shriners Dyslexia Testing after Burnet kept giving us excuse after excuse of delaying testing her. My opinion they didn't have any one qualified. Shriners came back saying not only is she Dyslexic but severe. Now Burnet has Shriners certified Dyslexia teachers. You can read one hand written paper and know immediately she is Dyslexic. Some schools are lazy and don't want to incur the cost of hiring specialist.

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          #34
          Originally posted by grizzman View Post
          I agree. But I have known a lot of parents of kids with these issues that weren't. They were professional people, not welfare recipients gaming the system.
          absolutely. it's not an either/or argument, it's an opinion based on what I see. But to your point, It seems that educated people also see the benefits of their kids being identified with some learning disability.

          math grade slipping a little bit? no prob, get them ID'd with dyslexia, ADHD, or a slew of other disorders, and you'll get a 1 on 1 private tutor. Your kid doesn't take tests well? no problem, get them 504'd, and the normal testing times no longer apply. They can have as much time as they want.

          If I hear "just get your kid 504'd" one more time....

          Just look at what's shaking out in hollywood. multi millionaires PAYING thousands to have their kids admissions standards modified, or college entrance scores changed! it's insanity, and in many ways, even more of a problem with wealthy people than poor people who might try to cheat the system.
          Last edited by kyle1974; 05-07-2019, 12:29 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by BrandonA View Post
            We had Riley tested at Shriners Dyslexia Testing after Burnet kept giving us excuse after excuse of delaying testing her. My opinion they didn't have any one qualified. Shriners came back saying not only is she Dyslexic but severe. Now Burnet has Shriners certified Dyslexia teachers. You can read one hand written paper and know immediately she is Dyslexic. Some schools are lazy and don't want to incur the cost of hiring specialist.
            Yeah, what ticked me off is that we were in the Frisco ISD, not exactly a poor school district. I think a lot of it had to do with people that should have retired a long time ago thinking that they didn't want to rock the boat. I believe the new crop of teachers have been trained to recognize the things and properly handle it, i.e. refer them for testing.

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              #36
              Just like in every other aspect of life, when do the diagnosis and excuses stop and personal responsibility start? I can't wait until every single kid gets to bring an emotion support rabbit to school because they really really need it. And if you don't let them you don't care about the children. The teacher will be the awful one because she says the bunny is a distraction to the class.

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                #37
                Originally posted by kyle1974 View Post
                absolutely. it's not an either/or argument, it's an opinion based on what I see. But to your point, It seems that educated people also see the benefits of their kids being identified with some learning disability.

                math grade slipping a little bit? no prob, get them ID'd with dyslexia, ADHD, or a slew of other disorders, and you'll get a 1 on 1 private tutor. Your kid doesn't take tests well? no problem, get them 504'd, and the normal testing times no longer apply. They can have as much time as they want.

                If I hear "just get your kid 504'd" one more time....
                Yeah, we paid out the nose for tutors, on our dime. School district didn't provide much of anything, even accommodations for testing. My daughter hardly was given accommodations for testing, and it was reflected in her grades.

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                  #38
                  Some of these post make people sound very stupid and uneducated. First of all, you don't cure learning disabilities. It's not a disease, it's a different way of learning.


                  The simple solution to your original post is to get the kid tested. This has nothing to do with PC.


                  Learning disabilities aren't more prevalent, they're just becoming more recognized and accepted for what they are.

                  I have dyscalculia and I can assure you, it's very real. I struggled through math classes all the way into High school. I did very well in all subjects except for math. I was finally tested and diagnosed my sophomore year. After I figured out the problem, I was able to receive different teaching methods. Once I got to college, I excelled and made A's in my college math classes with no assistance. I graduated college in 4 years with a bachelors degree and a minor with ease, with no special assistance.

                  So before more people go on commenting on a subject they have no clue about, thing twice. Some of yall sound like Obama trying to tell Chris kyle about what caliber to use.
                  Last edited by Arrowthreat; 05-07-2019, 12:39 PM.

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                    #39
                    THE KID WAS TESTED


                    Everyone keeps posting this. He was tested. That's the point of the thread.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Arrowthreat View Post
                      Some of these post make people sound very stupid and uneducated. First of all, you don't cure learning disabilities. It's not a disease, it's a different way of learning.


                      The simple solution to your original post is to get the kid tested. This has nothing to do with PC.


                      Learning disabilities aren't more prevalent, they're just becoming more recognized and accepted for what they are.

                      I have dyscalculia and I can assure you, it's very real. I struggled through math classes all the way into High school. I did very well in all subjects except for math. I was finally tested and diagnosed my sophomore year. After I figured out the problem, I was able to receive different teaching methods. Once I got to college, I excelled and made A's in my college math classes with no assistance. I graduated college in 4 years with a bachelors degree and a minor with ease, with no special assistance.

                      So before more people go on commenting on a subject they have no clue about, thing twice. Some of yall sound like Obama trying to tell Chris kyle about what caliber to use.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Brett A View Post
                        As a teacher, why fight it? So the kid gets some extra reading strategies and maybe a few accommodations to help him/her be successful. Your wife would be better off stress wise and the kid wouldn't be the pawn in a power struggle between your wife and the parents.

                        My thought as well. I was a principal for 20 years and special ed was my specialty. Often times teachers (especially good ones) get upset about things that really don't affect them because they care so much. This sounds like a non issue (is actually a non-issue) but I've seen people get upset like the op's wife dozens of times over similar situations.

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                          #42
                          There are 2 different types of Special Ed kids, ones that have learning disabilities and ones that have an Emotional Disturbance or an OHI, Other Health impairment (13 diagnoses fit into this category). Each kid in these groups had to be observed, tested and diagnosed and and an ARD has to be held with the parents, teachers and those involved in the observations and testing of this particular kid being talked about. If all are in agreement then papers are signed, accommodations, Goals and a Schedule of Services is set. Everything that is in the IEP, Individualized Education Plan, and that is LAW, it has to be done. Most even have a BIP, Behavior Intervention Plan to deal with possible behaviors. Some school systems have the staff to deal with a regular (learning disability) student but not many have a program to deal with the ED or OHI kids. None of the schools around our area have anything like the program I work in to deal with the ED and OHI kids.

                          Some schools may not have anyone that could test or do a diagnosis on ids so it may have to come from an outside source.

                          The difference in these 2 Special Ed programs here are this:

                          Regular Special Education kids have a learning disability.
                          The kids I work with are Special Education kids but have an ED or OHI that affects their learning ability. These are behavior kids.

                          I will say this, teachers see a lot with the time they spend with these kids and should know their kids, but I have seen parents that would not accept a diagnosis or have their kids tested. Parents have to agree to the testing done by the schools.

                          A few of the things said by some regarding testing and such is not entirely true, and just because they are deemed a 504 kid or one of my kids does not mean they get a private tutor for anything. They may get pulled out of class for a 1 on 1 session for reading or math 2, 3 maybe 4 times per week for 30 to 45 minutes per session, but that is decided in the ARD. Yes they can have more time on tests and the STAAR test, but that is just the entire day of that particular STAAR test. If an extra day is needed for STAAR, then an ARF has to be done and approved by the TEA.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
                            THE KID WAS TESTED


                            Everyone keeps posting this. He was tested. That's the point of the thread.
                            Suggest having the kid Tested at a Shriners Dyslexia Center. The are by far the leading authority on Dyslexia. Not saying this is the case but some "qualified Dyslexic teachers" are not qualified and not good at what they do.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Mudslinger View Post

                              I will say this, teachers see a lot with the time they spend with these kids and should know their kids, but I have seen parents that would not accept a diagnosis or have their kids tested. Parents have to agree to the testing done by the schools.

                              .

                              that's pretty much my point....

                              people seem to be confusing posts as being anti special ed, vs the actual issue of parents shopping the system to get the test result they think is right.

                              as for other comments about "why should a teacher care".... who does these special 1 on 1 sessions? We spend a plethora of time in public schools on classified kids, while the bulk of the kids who are in the middle of the bell curve just go through, doing their assignments, just being average. My problem is the amount of time spent on bringing the bottom of the bell curve up, while basically ignoring the vast majority of the students in the system.
                              Last edited by kyle1974; 05-07-2019, 01:04 PM.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by rvd View Post
                                My thought as well. I was a principal for 20 years and special ed was my specialty. Often times teachers (especially good ones) get upset about things that really don't affect them because they care so much. This sounds like a non issue (is actually a non-issue) but I've seen people get upset like the op's wife dozens of times over similar situations.
                                How is it a non-issue? She had two extra meetings today alone just for this. She has 20 other children to teach.

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