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    #16
    Science is a business and that business is tax payer funded.

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      #17
      Only reason to politicize pollution and our effect upon our environment is to allow one group to profit by continuing to destroy our earth or another group to profit by selling us a cure. Both are frauds and their nightly news tribes are frauds. Next time you are flying take a look out of the jet plane. You will see we look like an infection upon the earth. Like an infection we will either kill our host or drown in our own waste.

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        #18
        Just like religions and gods, all made up
        Funny how there are just about 0 absolutes in this world, including the laws of physics, yet so many are so absolutely sure of what we are and are not causing.
        Y'all would have been in the same group who persecuted Galileo .
        I'm not 100% certain we are causing global warming, but we are **** sure adding to it at the least.
        Our impact should be analyzed, simply saying it's not real, we should just drop it is unbelievable stupid.
        But the Republican rednecks of America know it all, the world last great hope of intelligence .

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          #19
          Originally posted by PlanoDano View Post
          Only reason to politicize pollution and our effect upon our environment is to allow one group to profit by continuing to destroy our earth or another group to profit by selling us a cure. Both are frauds and their nightly news tribes are frauds. Next time you are flying take a look out of the jet plane. You will see we look like an infection upon the earth. Like an infection we will either kill our host or drown in our own waste.
          Tap Tap

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            #20
            Originally posted by PlanoDano View Post
            Only reason to politicize pollution and our effect upon our environment is to allow one group to profit by continuing to destroy our earth or another group to profit by selling us a cure. Both are frauds and their nightly news tribes are frauds. Next time you are flying take a look out of the jet plane. You will see we look like an infection upon the earth. Like an infection we will either kill our host or drown in our own waste.
            When you look out your jet plane window and see an infection....what country are you flying over,India, china?
            When I look at the American landscape I see land producing beautiful crops that feed the world, clean rivers and lakes and a magnificent industrial complex that provides innovative solutions to complex problems.

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              #21
              Originally posted by MadHatter View Post
              Just like religions and gods, all made up
              Funny how there are just about 0 absolutes in this world, including the laws of physics, yet so many are so absolutely sure of what we are and are not causing.
              Y'all would have been in the same group who persecuted Galileo .
              I'm not 100% certain we are causing global warming, but we are **** sure adding to it at the least.
              Our impact should be analyzed, simply saying it's not real, we should just drop it is unbelievable stupid.
              But the Republican rednecks of America know it all, the world last great hope of intelligence .
              Nuance is not allowed anymore.

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                #22
                Originally posted by MadHatter View Post
                Just like religions and gods, all made up
                Funny how there are just about 0 absolutes in this world, including the laws of physics, yet so many are so absolutely sure of what we are and are not causing.
                Y'all would have been in the same group who persecuted Galileo .
                I'm not 100% certain we are causing global warming, but we are **** sure adding to it at the least.
                Our impact should be analyzed, simply saying it's not real, we should just drop it is unbelievable stupid.
                But the Republican rednecks of America know it all, the world last great hope of intelligence .

                I agree, we should study climate change. Actually study, not design experiments that use bad data, and use incorrect conclusions to wreck our (and the worlds) economy to enrich the people funding the bad science. The science industry is funded by people insisting the conclusions come out the way they want, or they cut off funding.


                You can tell it is fishy because any scientists that question the climate change agenda are hated and ostracized. Some have lost their jobs for not toeing the line.


                Obama said "the science is settled". Science is never settled, or the world would be flat and the universe would revolve around us.


                Like the article said, I have been listening the U.N. people for 40+ years, and nothing they have predicted in the way of earths climate has happened.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by MadHatter View Post
                  Just like religions and gods, all made up
                  Funny how there are just about 0 absolutes in this world, including the laws of physics, yet so many are so absolutely sure of what we are and are not causing.
                  Y'all would have been in the same group who persecuted Galileo .
                  I'm not 100% certain we are causing global warming, but we are **** sure adding to it at the least.
                  Our impact should be analyzed, simply saying it's not real, we should just drop it is unbelievable stupid.
                  But the Republican rednecks of America know it all, the world last great hope of intelligence .
                  The Eocene, which occurred between 53 and 49 million years ago, was the Earth's warmest temperature period for 100 million years. However, this "super-greenhouse" eventually became an icehouse by the late Eocene.

                  Idiot

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                    #24
                    I wonder what happened to the hole in ozone that the experts use to show satellite images of. that started the climate change theory, you don't hear about it anymore.

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                      #25
                      Green Land used to be green.

                      West Texas was covered with salt water for a very long time.

                      Climate changes. Uh duh.

                      It would be great to make billions a year off something that will never stop. The climate does change.

                      America could disappear tomorrow and China and India would pollute the globe's water and air in the next 10 years.

                      Read an article last week about the plastic in the oceans and 90% can be traced to 4 rivers in and around China, Cambodia, Vietnam, etc.

                      There is nothing we Americans can improve on when you look on this as a global problem.........

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by flywise View Post
                        That's pollution and everyone ( at least in the developed world ) that we should do what we can to prevent pollution.
                        Climate change is an entirely different thing. Climate change dogma did not turn political, it has been political since its inception in the 60's or 70's. It's sole purpose is to divert your money from your pocket to the pockets of other people and governments. You want some of my money to clean the rivers in this country i probably wont have much of a problem with it. If someone want my money so they can spread socialism around the globe...well not i have a problem.
                        How is co2 & methane production from humans (pollution) along with the constant expansion and destruction of habitat not go hand in hand? I’m confused?

                        But I do agree with with there being a huge money grab with it. There is do denying that

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Johnny Dangerr View Post
                          There is nothing we Americans can improve on when you look on this as a global problem.........
                          Link to fish consumption bans.


                          Rank State Airborne Mercury Emissions (pounds)
                          1 Texas 11,127
                          2 Ohio 4,218
                          3 Pennsylvania 3,964
                          4 Missouri 3,835
                          5 Indiana 3,175

                          We do not even produce most of our electricity with coal, we just have the dirtiest plants.

                          Why isn't conservation conservative.
                          Does being conservative mean we must put corporate profits ahead of posterity?

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by PlanoDano View Post
                            Link to fish consumption bans.


                            Rank State Airborne Mercury Emissions (pounds)
                            1 Texas 11,127
                            2 Ohio 4,218
                            3 Pennsylvania 3,964
                            4 Missouri 3,835
                            5 Indiana 3,175

                            We do not even produce most of our electricity with coal, we just have the dirtiest plants.

                            Why isn't conservation conservative.
                            Does being conservative mean we must put corporate profits ahead of posterity?
                            the USA has the dirtiest plants? compared to WHO??? this is the stupidest thing I have read today.

                            and if a utility provider doesn't make a profit for their investment then we can all go live in the dark; that's how it works, unless you want to start up a power plant and give free electricity to everyone in the USA.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by stickerpatch59 View Post
                              the USA has the dirtiest plants? compared to WHO??? this is the stupidest thing I have read today.
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                              That is because you did not read it. The chart pointed out that Texas produces over double the mercury emissions of any other state even though we produce most of our energy with clean burning natural gas. I am not sure but would bet that the coal plants in the other states are highly profitable. The USA does not have the dirtiest plants, but I fish in Texas.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by 150class View Post
                                How is co2 & methane production from humans (pollution) along with the constant expansion and destruction of habitat not go hand in hand? I’m confused?

                                But I do agree with with there being a huge money grab with it. There is do denying that
                                Co2 production is pollution? Dont green plants and trees need CO2 in order to produce O2? There is no real data that proves Co2 is or could be a dangerous hazard to the planet. I'm fairly sure there is actual data that says Co2 levels were much higher in earths history.
                                Not sure anyone could say with certainty that methane is a man made pollutant. Methane can be found in all ice core samples that are millions of years old. It also seeps from the ocean floors and been doing so for millions of years.
                                Yes humans pollute.
                                No there is no science that says we pollute enough to destroy the earth or change the climate
                                The USA does more to clean up and prevent pollution than any other society on earth.

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