Lt Governor? who and why?

[bullhead44]

I have to laugh at all of the public servants here complaining about their bloated pensions. Go work in the private sector where you don't have inflated salaries, unions, or public pensions. It's time to either ban public unions, or slash pensions and salaries across the board.

I'll vote against those 100% of the time, as I can see through the union rhetoric.

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I cant speak on behalf of law enforcement or fire fighters, but I can speak for teachers since I have been one for 25 years. I wish our salaries and pensions were bloated. The current state base pay for a first year teacher is a little over $28000. I dont think anyone would consider that to be bloated. There hasn't been a raise in teacher pay from the state since 2015. That was a whopping $500 dollars. That being said, we knew pay was low coming in and were fine with that. Teachers don't teach to get rich. A major perk was the retirement plan was pretty decent. I stress WAS. Now, not so much. Some retired teachers are paying almost their entire check towards insurance. Again, a bloated pension plan would pay more than insurance. State law also prohibits teachers unions. If teachers were able to unionize, I suspect things would be much different.

The state has cut funding for public education as well, leaving it to the local districts to make up the shortfall. This is causing property taxes to continue to go up.

I consider myself to be very conservative and about as far from the left as anybody. But voting for dan patrick is bad for the future of Texas. Its sad that our country is so split right now by political parties. We should have taken George Washington's advice when he said to steer clear of political parties for they will divide the country!

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[KactusKiller]

I have to laugh at all of the public servants here complaining about their bloated pensions. Go work in the private sector where you don't have inflated salaries, unions, or public pensions. It's time to either ban public unions, or slash pensions and salaries across the board.

I'll vote against those 100% of the time, as I can see through the union rhetoric.

Yeah I don’t know about that.........pretty ignorant statement IMO. Public servants such as police, first responders, educators are vastly underpaid for what they provide. Now public servants such as city/state officials in office I agree.

Whether you agree or disagree with the size of a pension someone is set to receive it is still wrong to cut it shortly before someone will retire.
And I am self employed so I have no dog in their fight, my pension is what I save/invest and I pay a ridiculous amount for insurance through independent provider.

[COACH_EM_UP]

hopefully all the other teachers and coaches in the state do the same thing!

I agree. Hopefully, this happens, but I would not be surprised if it does not. I am conservative and Republican as they come, but I will not be voting for Dan Patrick. I voted against him in the primary and I will vote, for the 1st time in my life, for a Democrat for Lt. Gov.

Man, the misinformation on this thread is mind boggling. Just unbelievable!

[Ironman]

Sounds like a bunch of one issue voters. Sound familiar?

[BitBackShot]

I'm voting straight line Repub, but suggesting public servants have inflated salaries is way, way out of line. Most of them have to work 2nd jobs to pay the bills.

I'd be okay with a tax increase if I knew FOR CERTAIN the money would go straight to teachers and cops, but I believe the government would ultimately do a bait and switch and just spend it poorly like always.

[No-Tox]

I am a Houston Fireman & I can tell you he screwed my pension. We had the #1 rated public pension in the state according to the state report in 2017. And Mayor Turner(liberal Democrat, former state rep for 20 years) used Joan Huffman(conservation republican) & Dan Flyn(conservative republican) to submit a bill in Austin to cut my pension by 40% and it give 1.2 billion from my pension fund to help the other the other two city funds that had not managed their money correctly. Turner called it “shared sacrifice”, I call it Socialism! And Dan Patrick went right along with it. Turner is one of of the most corrupt politicians to ever serve in Texas, but Dan sure was quick to help him out.

The problem is you are blaming a Lt. Governor that is elected by the entire population to overrule the government that the local (Houston citizens) put in place. That is not how government should work. I was on my local City Council and I didn't like it, if and when, the County Commissioners or State Government came in to tell us how we should conduct our business. Dan Patrick went along with those bills because that is what the locally elected officials put up and you would think would have the local support. Dan Patrick isn't amongst all these cities every day to monitor if they are doing the will of the people. You don't like your pension getting screwed over, then get better local officials to take care of business. Both Houston and Dallas City Councils screwed the pooch on the pensions as they didn't have the checks and balances being watched.

[Captain39]

I have to question your #1 rated public pension statement? Rated in what terms? Benefits or strength?

By the way, pensions are the definition of socialism on a small scale. Value made belongs to everyone in that pension, instead of a group of private account owners.

I completely agree with you Turner being a complete tool.

For all yall voting for a dem, remember there is a liberation on the ballet. Its better to vote for McKennon then Collier

Sorry should have been clear. I mean the highest funding level;to be able to pay out its pension obligations.

[mmoses]

Sounds like a bunch of one issue voters. Sound familiar?

Have to agree with you on this one!

[glen]

Man I may have to retire off this police work and become a teacher. I didn’t realize you guys made such an inflated salary and pension. And such a high reward easy job at that. Anyone could do it.
I would like some of these snowflakes teach for a semester for what y’all are paid.

[Burntorange Bowhunter]

Dallas City Council has been screwing everything up for decades. Is ol John Wiley Pricecstill around?

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[glen]

As far as pension. Most would be fine if they would be left a lone. Patrick wants to take a pension set up for one group and hand it to another group. I have paid a good portion of my salary into my pension for over 20 years. So yes it angers folks like me when a politician sitting in a leather chair makes decisions on my future when I have had blood, ****, spit from less than deaireable folks in society on my hands to earn my retirement. It is a retirement that was part of my pay and salary when I started 24 years ago.

[bakin7005]

Inflated salaries? A Houston Firenan starts out at 28k a year. That qualifies him for the Lone Star Card if he has a family. Also, police, fire, & teachers do not get social security. But if you want to come risk your life like me for my over inflated salary & my crappy pension; come on. I invite you to come ride with us for a 24hr Shift, then let me know how you feel.

Not saying this is true but it was the first thing that popped up.....
A first-year firefighter earns a base salary of $42,000. After 17 years, a firefighter who has not been promoted will earn just over $60,000. Engineers - firefighters who drive the fire trucks - earn slightly more.Aug 14, 2014
King: Firefighter pay more complex than it seems - Houston Chronicle
https://www.chron.com/.../King-Hard-...ters-5687145.p...

[Mike D]

I may not vote for Patrick or Bush but you can **** sure bet I won’t be voting for a Democrat, ever!


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[flywise]

The problem is you are blaming a Lt. Governor that is elected by the entire population to overrule the government that the local (Houston citizens) put in place. That is not how government should work. I was on my local City Council and I didn't like it, if and when, the County Commissioners or State Government came in to tell us how we should conduct our business. Dan Patrick went along with those bills because that is what the locally elected officials put up and you would think would have the local support. Dan Patrick isn't amongst all these cities every day to monitor if they are doing the will of the people. You don't like your pension getting screwed over, then get better local officials to take care of business. Both Houston and Dallas City Councils screwed the pooch on the pensions as they didn't have the checks and balances being watched.

Exactly right
Patrick has not screwed public servants, local politicians have. And most were endorsed by those same associations

[bullhead44]

Exactly right
Patrick has not screwed public servants, local politicians have. And most were endorsed by those same associations

local politicians have nothing to do with public education. Patrick has been very clear on his views on public education since he has been in office. Funding has gone down on his watch.