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    Originally posted by drop dead fred View Post
    Southwest Colorado terrain looks like no joke! Anyone hunted this part of the state? Any advice/input?


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    20 plus years. It’s CO, in general it’s steep and can get real thin on oxygen just about any where from the eastern front to Utah.

    AZ, NM, Utah, Nevada, Okla, WY and MT tend to be less physical... grant it Tag availability is a touch different

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      Originally posted by Texans42 View Post
      What do you think about recent SC ruling w/the crow
      Wyoming has a history of not working with NA on almost any issue they have or bring up, casinos come to mind. Our Govn. didn't want them then and wouldn't work out a deal on taxes or payments to the state they proposed. Took us to court and they won, no extra money from their casinos to our state.

      This will affect elk hunting in the Bighorns no doubt. Evidently the court did leave us room for conservation considerations and sent it back to lower courts for some clarification.
      It will be interesting to see how our state responds, many times they just dig their heels in a fight a losing battle.
      I fear moose hunting in the Bighorns will also suffer.
      Look for company this fall elk hunting I bet if you have a tag for the Bighorn Mts.

      It's a hard argument since the lands are federally owner, NF, so I see their points. Glad we don't live up there for sure.

      Many believe G&F will have to cut tags for elk hunting up there , perhaps it will affect NR more than residents. Talk is they will issue tags to Crow tribe members who want them and take them from the quota for all elk tags. They will not have to "apply" but be issued to them I hear. G&F will try to maintain control of the number of tags issued based on the " conservation" aspect of the ruling.

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        Well I’ve taken a huge interest in this whole process! I believe I’ve narrowed it down to a small cluster of conjoining units for my next sept OTC diy trip. Relatively all the same mountain terrain been google earthing area looking for water, access roads, etc. I’m 16 months out and can’t wait lol. Can’t imagine the excitement you guys that will be chasing them soon have! Thankfully I’ll have a good bit of time to acquire things I’ll need. Any must have issentials or tips that good under the radar would be greatly appreciated. I’ve started reading the diy elk hunting book and been scouring the elk forums to pick up as much as i can.

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          Some what if an ironic visit with my grandpa today.. we’ve always talked hunting, but never really specific he was a mountain hunter in his day. I being a whitetail hunter always just listened to some of his amazing stories. Today i was picking his brain he whips out an old map from his hunting camp they always went to. I kid you not it was the same NF i picked to hunt next year i was in shock he was a big mule deer hunter so was in a slightly different area, but very familiar with the range it was a great visit fun to see him reminiscing on the little details like bed rolls etc. crazy how small the world is









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            That's awesome!

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              Very cool and crazy that the entire west and your talking same lands.

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                That mule deer is a BEAST!!!! What a great story and passion to share. I have hunted 78, 81, 751 and I will hopefully hunt mule deer in 74 this year. Cool country, all of it.

                QUOTE=drop dead fred;14167768]Some what if an ironic visit with my grandpa today.. we’ve always talked hunting, but never really specific he was a mountain hunter in his day. I being a whitetail hunter always just listened to some of his amazing stories. Today i was picking his brain he whips out an old map from his hunting camp they always went to. I kid you not it was the same NF i picked to hunt next year i was in shock he was a big mule deer hunter so was in a slightly different area, but very familiar with the range it was a great visit fun to see him reminiscing on the little details like bed rolls etc. crazy how small the world is









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                  Originally posted by Wits_End View Post
                  Very cool and crazy that the entire west and your talking same lands.


                  Yes it was pretty neat he had a card with the elevation and small map. It was cool and just added to my excitement.


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                    Originally posted by TWP View Post
                    That mule deer is a BEAST!!!! What a great story and passion to share. I have hunted 78, 81, 751 and I will hopefully hunt mule deer in 74 this year. Cool country, all of it.



                    QUOTE=drop dead fred;14167768]Some what if an ironic visit with my grandpa today.. we’ve always talked hunting, but never really specific he was a mountain hunter in his day. I being a whitetail hunter always just listened to some of his amazing stories. Today i was picking his brain he whips out an old map from his hunting camp they always went to. I kid you not it was the same NF i picked to hunt next year i was in shock he was a big mule deer hunter so was in a slightly different area, but very familiar with the range it was a great visit fun to see him reminiscing on the little details like bed rolls etc. crazy how small the world is



















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                    Yes sir 219” he’s an absolute stud has it all! I can honestly say idk what I’d do if he stepped out

                    Also how did you like 78?

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                      Also can anyone help me figure out how what’s the best way to locate what are accessible forest service roads? Is there a certain “search”


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                        The Motor Vehicle Use Map, MVUM , will have the open roads and any closures or restrictions for each national forest. Take a look at the travel plan as well.
                        The MVUM is free from FS offices but you can look at them online.
                        Google the name of the Forest Service district and MVUM and it should pop up.

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                          Originally posted by wytex View Post
                          The Motor Vehicle Use Map, MVUM , will have the open roads and any closures or restrictions for each national forest. Take a look at the travel plan as well.
                          The MVUM is free from FS offices but you can look at them online.
                          Google the name of the Forest Service district and MVUM and it should pop up.


                          Awesome thank you! Now could you possibly explain these dates to me is it stating they’re open from May-March some what confusing... sorry I’m completely ignorant to the public land life appreciate the insight


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                            Originally posted by drop dead fred View Post
                            Also can anyone help me figure out how what’s the best way to locate what are accessible forest service roads? Is there a certain “search”


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                            Awesome story ddf!

                            I hunted unit 78 last year and found it extremely challenging... It was my first western style hunt and I was unprepared for a lot of it. I did a solo hunt as a lot of folks are interested in going on the adventure until it's actually time to go.

                            As you know, there are some very knowledgable peeps on here that you can get more information as to the area. Two TBHers gave me/shared info on units 78 and 81. I will try to find the info and pass it on.

                            My trip was an an awesome adventure although I ate elk tag soup. I learned a lot but still need way more schooling. Those elk are highly educated and were never threatened by me

                            Everything I was told by hunters whom I encountered out there was that the year was a brutally dry one. They also mentioned elk numbers were down in the area due to the drought like conditions. From my experiance, which I never encountered an elk it seemed logical. A lot of water holes were dry or drying and all had some sign of recent elk activity. I Hunted water several times but I assume the elk had been pushed of the public land. I was hunting near a valley containing a lot of private land.

                            I did not venture far enough into the wilderness area as I had initially planned. That was my biggest mistake (I think). Every place I hunted had recent elk activity to some extent but all had a whole lot of sign that hunters had been around. The cams I set up on trails all captured mule deer activity but no elk activity.

                            Here Is a link to some of the public land roads that provide access to the South San Juan Wilderness area the national forest area surrounding the wideness area. Most of this is east of the Pagosa Springs area. It apppears some of the areas are close due to rain and snow melt. Hoping this will be a wetter year out there

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                              It is a good unit, but if you are going early you better be up high!!! Most all the lower country is so dang thick with oak brush it is no fun. You need to be down low the first couple of days of the season to hunt resident elk, or go up to tree line. Go way high for the bigger bulls. Big country, super beautiful


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                              Yes sir 219” he’s an absolute stud has it all! I can honestly say idk what I’d do if he stepped out

                              Also how did you like 78?

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                                Originally posted by Pedernal View Post
                                Awesome story ddf!

                                I hunted unit 78 last year and found it extremely challenging... It was my first western style hunt and I was unprepared for a lot of it. I did a solo hunt as a lot of folks are interested in going on the adventure until it's actually time to go.

                                As you know, there are some very knowledgable peeps on here that you can get more information as to the area. Two TBHers gave me/shared info on units 78 and 81. I will try to find the info and pass it on.

                                My trip was an an awesome adventure although I ate elk tag soup. I learned a lot but still need way more schooling. Those elk are highly educated and were never threatened by me

                                Everything I was told by hunters whom I encountered out there was that the year was a brutally dry one. They also mentioned elk numbers were down in the area due to the drought like conditions. From my experiance, which I never encountered an elk it seemed logical. A lot of water holes were dry or drying and all had some sign of recent elk activity. I Hunted water several times but I assume the elk had been pushed of the public land. I was hunting near a valley containing a lot of private land.

                                I did not venture far enough into the wilderness area as I had initially planned. That was my biggest mistake (I think). Every place I hunted had recent elk activity to some extent but all had a whole lot of sign that hunters had been around. The cams I set up on trails all captured mule deer activity but no elk activity.

                                Here Is a link to some of the public land roads that provide access to the South San Juan Wilderness area the national forest area surrounding the wideness area. Most of this is east of the Pagosa Springs area. It apppears some of the areas are close due to rain and snow melt. Hoping this will be a wetter year out there

                                https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/sanju...telprdb5262330


                                That’s what i heard as well the terrain is roughhhhh and you better be prepared! We’re looking at a 4 mile hike in to are “desired” area from a major hwy. If we can use the access road it’ll get us to within 1.5 miles thank you so much for your insight! That map doesn’t show the particular road I’m lookin for, but I’ve been scouring their sight trying to learn as much as i can. Greatly appreciated bud!!


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