Originally posted by gingib
View Post
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
2020 “modified buffalo” fall plot
Collapse
X
-
Originally posted by EastTexun View PostI have shred oats when they got too high with good results, and I do plant legumes directly into my standing oats/wheat/cereal rye every year. can't speak for OP, but I don't do a follow up shred once I plant...but sometimes I will do a gly burndown. Depends on time of year, etc.Originally posted by Low Fence View PostI’d let it go till April. Spray, wait 2 weeks. Shred and plant or plant and break down whatever you have access too
My thoughts: Why not leave the current plot standing and let it die off naturally or shred it very low for a thatch layer once the other seen been in the ground 7-10 days? Seems like keeping it growing and standing, gives the summer plot to grow and hide under the winter plot.
Comment
-
Every region is different to a degree. But if I let mine die naturally... it would be mid to late June. Way too late to plant. If I shred without spraying I leave too much competition and spring weeds in the plot. If I could only do 1, I’d chose spraying over shredding. I really prefer spraying and rolling. Crimping isn’t that great in my area because the stems are not ready to snap at planting time like up north. I find it works best for me to just kill it and be done. (But I have the equipment for it, so it’s easy for me to choose that route)
Comment
-
Originally posted by Low Fence View PostEvery region is different to a degree. But if I let mine die naturally... it would be mid to late June. Way too late to plant. If I shred without spraying I leave too much competition and spring weeds in the plot. If I could only do 1, I’d chose spraying over shredding. I really prefer spraying and rolling. Crimping isn’t that great in my area because the stems are not ready to snap at planting time like up north. I find it works best for me to just kill it and be done. (But I have the equipment for it, so it’s easy for me to choose that route)
Comment
-
Originally posted by Low Fence View PostI’d let it go till April. Spray, wait 2 weeks. Shred and plant or plant and break down whatever you have access too
Because if you shred the dead plot, that maybe a few inches of cover huh?
Comment
-
I’m able to plant earlier due to soil temperatures. They increase with organisms increasing and plant matter decomposition. I hide the planting, NOT by keeping it out of sight, but by not drawing them to begin with. Once plots are mature there is no reason for a deer to be there. Once it’s all dead, there for sure ain’t a reason for a deer to be there. Plowed ground will draw deer faster than a corn pile. I don’t break ground.... so they don’t know it’s planted. They find it once it gets better established and can compete.
Comment
-
Originally posted by eyedoc View PostWill this method work with dove plots such as sesame, milo, millet and sunflower? If so will the thatch decompose enough for dove to walk and find seed?
As for the thatch. Yes it would decompose enough. Seed rate and plant crowding were my problems in past broadcast into plowed dirt
Comment
-
Originally posted by Low Fence View PostDrilling would certainly be best. But if you have enough thatch to cover it will certainly work great. Bigger seeds have more stored energy and will sprout with water very quick (3-5 days). So if going that route don’t spread too soon and burn up all your thatch before the seeds get started
Spraying sucks for me equipment wise. So I am thinking of doing this and curious your thoughts:
1. Grain drill/broadcast my beans in April, then Shred my current plot very low to build up thatch and cover the seed more. I am leaning towards this as they will still feed on the current plot in april and give my beans a chance to grow.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Low Fence View PostThat should work well. And yes, in theory your weeds should be far less
Comment
-
Originally posted by EastTexun View PostTheoretically is the key. I would plan to have some pretty significant weed pressure either way, as the seed bank is rich unless you have done a pretty robust spraying regimen.
I am just weighing the benefits of building the thatch layer and keeping food for them to eat while the beans sprout and grow.
Comment
Comment